Obama signs internet over to United Nations

[DutchTexan]

Just now, Energycore said:

You've been going on about how we're all against you because you're in a minority, but I don't think you've made yourself clear.

 

What harm, exactly, has the UN been doing?

I think the UN does more harm than good, full stop.

 

I know the EU does more harm than good, full stop.

 

I think Obama and Clinton(s) do more harm than good, full stop. 

 

What is the purpose of the UN? What is the purpose of the EU? Now, since they have formed, would you argue they are holistically and historically a success or a failure? 

[Memories4K]

4 minutes ago, LAwLz said:

UN and EU are two different things...

 

God dammit why do so many people in this thread talk about things they clearly do not understand?

 

 

I hope you realize that the US is currently classified as one of the enemies of the Internet (as defined by Reporters without borders).

The US is literally on the same list as Syria, Russia, North Korea, China, Iran, Cuba and other countries.

 

If you think the US is not to be feared then you are naive and ignorant about how horrible the US actually is.

You don't understand the comparison with the EU and UN.

The point is exactly how it sounds, which is not working in the best interests of all nations.

You, also, need to read back to where i said that the U.S. is not the "good" option and that any fear of the U.S. is legitimate.

Don't talk out of your ass. (or more kindly, please take into consideration what i actually said. I would appreciate it.)

[DutchTexan]

3 minutes ago, LAwLz said:

UN and EU are two different things...

 

God dammit why do so many people in this thread talk about things they clearly do not understand?

 

 

I hope you realize that the US is currently classified as one of the enemies of the Internet (as defined by Reporters without borders).

The US is literally on the same list as Syria, Russia, North Korea, China, Iran, Cuba and other countries.

 

If you think the US is not to be feared then you are naive and ignorant about how horrible the US actually is.

Thank you for insulting the greatest country in the world. 

 

Did you think that I thought the EU and the UN are the same thing? Really? 

 

Take note: I have not insulted or disrespected anyone

 

 

[Memories4K]

2 minutes ago, DutchTexan said:

Thank you for insulting the greatest country in the world. 

LMAO.

I mean...depends on what you're talking about.

If you mean power, then sure.

But that's a pretty broad label to so confidently attach to the U.S., especially when we fall behind in a lot of ways, don'tcha think?

[Energycore]

Just now, DutchTexan said:

I think the UN does more harm than good, full stop.

 

I know the EU does more harm than good, full stop.

 

I think Obama and Clinton(s) do more harm than good, full stop. 

 

What is the purpose of the UN? What is the purpose of the EU? Now, since they have formed, would you argue they are holistically and historically a success or a failure? 

So you're just gonna answer my question with another question?

 

Is that ok?

 

Can 2 people play the same game?

 

Is a person capable of answering a question an simple as "what has the UN done that's harmful and to who?"?

4 minutes ago, Memories4K said:

I wouldn't really call Denmark a socialist country, really.

Many Scandanavian countries touted as socialist paradises hold very capitalistic principles.

Considering Russia's one of the least peaceful nations in the world (i think ranks 16th out of 162) and what's been going on militarily/politically the past few years, i have little confidence in Russia.

I understand the Global Peace Index takes into account a combination of country militarization, internal security and international conflict. I'm not sure how much of that translates to foreign conflict, and how much is the rest.

 

I'm also not sure whether Russia has power over the organism that will now regulate internet names.

4 minutes ago, DutchTexan said:

Thank you for insulting the greatest country in the world. 

 

Did you think that I thought the EU and the UN are the same thing? Really? 

 

Take note: I have not insulted or disrespected anyone

You're not serious.

[DutchTexan]

5 minutes ago, Memories4K said:

I wouldn't really call Denmark a socialist country, really.

Many Scandanavian countries touted as socialist paradises hold very capitalistic principles.

Considering Russia's one of the least peaceful nations in the world (i think ranks 16th out of 162) and what's been going on militarily/politically the past few years, i have little confidence in Russia.

Nothing is free. That’s my point. 

 

Basing decisions purely off statistics is what liberal progressives do. It sounds great on paper, it may make you feel warm and fuzzy inside, but without a realistic, real world, life experience-based approach these statistic-based decisions often end as ineffective or unsuccessful. 

 

For example: It is considered totally racist to say a black man does not need any help to find employment or get an education. Then, if I said the black man in America needs help getting an education and finding a job, then it is not racist. That is what statically speaking produces. 

 

 

[Energycore]

Just now, DutchTexan said:

Nothing is free. That’s my point. 

 

Basing decisions purely off statistics is what liberal progressives do. It sounds great on paper, it may make you feel warm and fuzzy inside, but without a realistic, real world, life experience-based approach these statistic-based decisions often end as ineffective or unsuccessful. 

 

For example: It is considered totally racist to say a black man does not need any help to find employment or get an education. Then, if I said the black man in America needs help getting an education and finding a job, then it is not racist. That is what statically speaking produces.

Yeah, I'm off trying to make sense of whatever you're trying to say.

 

[Memories4K]

4 minutes ago, DutchTexan said:

Nothing is free. That’s my point. 

 

Basing decisions purely off statistics is what liberal progressives do. It sounds great on paper, it may make you feel warm and fuzzy inside, but without a realistic, real world, life experience-based approach these statistic-based decisions often end as ineffective or unsuccessful. 

 

For example: It is considered totally racist to say a black man does not need any help to find employment or get an education. Then, if I said the black man in America needs help getting an education and finding a job, then it is not racist. That is what statically speaking produces. 

 

 

It's not that i don't agree with you (or what you're really trying to say about the problems in many countries like Denmark regarding statistics and different economic structures)...It's just that i don't see how that's relevant, at all, to what we're talking about.

 

[2FA]

26 minutes ago, Memories4K said:

You don't think that DNS administration can have a big impact in the way of abuse or censorship? And i get it, it's not as if there's not always that possibility regardless.

It'd be one thing if it were placed with oversight to a third-party i actually trusted, but the U.N. is not trusted by me.

 

When you purchase a domain through a registrar, they update their own DNS servers which then send an registry request to IANA/ICANN to update their own official registry. It may sound centrally controlled but in reality it's not. Most DNS servers just sync directly from one another and IANA/ICANN just keep a log of which IP/domain is assigned to who. OG DNS lists were manually updated on each server. This became a task to large for humans to complete eventually though due to how fast the internet was growing. Hence an automated system was created so that servers could synchronize with one another. IANA/ICANN were formed to keep track of these ever changing lists. IANA was formed also to give a structure to IPv4 addresses so that certain IP addresses had specific purposes such as private IP ranges as well as unique IPs such as 127.0.0.1.. All IPs not in use in the US are maintained by ICANN currently. I may not be completely accurate with some points but the general idea is accurate.

[DutchTexan]

10 minutes ago, Lurick said:

 

180% or you know 45% on pretty much lower than average prices on cars but who really cares about real numbers when you can fear monger and scare people.

Do you think I am trying to scare people? I am expressing my opinion based off what I know. I know there is over 180% tax on new or used vehicles in Denmark. Where did you hear a 45% tax? Respectfully, that cannot be true, you must be mistaken.

 

200% tax article

look here

cost of living

read this

 

You want to spend ~36k on your 19k honda in Denmark?

[LAwLz]

Just now, Memories4K said:

You don't understand the comparison with the EU and UN.

The point is exactly how it sounds, which is not working in the best interests of all nations.

I am not sure how I was suppose to get that from these sentences:

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Let’s look at what the UN has been doing. Let’s ask the question relating to some country leaving the EU.

 

It's kind of hard to understand a comparison when there is no comparison being made. It's like saying "Banana is not a good fruit. Let's ask people who like the color orange."

It makes no sense.

 

 

3 minutes ago, Memories4K said:

You, also, need to read back to where i said that the U.S. is not the "good" option and that any fear of the U.S. is legitimate.

Don't talk out of your ass.

So why do you want the US to keep "control of the Internet" (which is a bullshit term by the way)? The US is one of the least trustworthy nations and should have as little control as possible. Again, they are on the same list of enemies as Russia and China, the countries you are afraid of. One terrible country having full control "over the Internet" is much worse than letting an organization comprised of about 200 members, some of which are bad, have control.

 

 

 

8 minutes ago, DutchTexan said:

Thank you for insulting the greatest country in the world. 

No problem.

The US sucks full time. Doesn't even take Saturdays or Sundays off. It sucks so hard it could suck a watermelon though a drinking straw.

[DutchTexan]

4 minutes ago, Memories4K said:

It's not that i don't agree with you (or what you're really trying to say about the problems in many countries like Denmark regarding statistics and different economic structures)...It's just that i don't see how that's relevant, at all, to what we're talking about.

 

 

7 minutes ago, Energycore said:

Yeah, I'm off trying to make sense of whatever you're trying to say.

 

I hate Obama and the origin of his political opinions, actions, and presentations. He is a disgrace to this nation and them the world. 

 

Signing the Internet over to the United Nations, is signing it over to himself. That was my very first post. Wait and see who heads the United Nations when Obama is not president. 

[Energycore]

1 minute ago, DeadEyePsycho said:

When you purchase a domain through a registrar, they update their own DNS servers which then send an registry request to IANA/ICANN to update their own official registry. It may sound centrally controlled but in reality it's not. Most DNS servers just sync directly from one another and IANA/ICANN just keep a log of which IP/domain is assigned to who. OG DNS lists were manually updated on each server. This became a task to large for humans to complete eventually though due to how fast the internet was growing. Hence an automated system was created so that servers could synchronize with one another. IANA/ICANN were formed to keep track of these ever changing lists. IANA was formed also to give a structure to IPv4 addresses so that certain IP addresses had specific purposes such as private IP ranges as well as unique IPs such as 127.0.0.1.. All IPs not in use in the US are maintained by ICANN currently. I may not be completely accurate with some points but the general idea is accurate.

I suspect the handing over of this is a much smaller deal than we originally thought when we read the title.

1 minute ago, LAwLz said:

No problem.

The US sucks full time. Doesn't even take Saturdays or Sundays off. It sucks so hard it could suck a watermelon though a drinking straw.

LOL

 

It sucks so hard light bends around it

[DutchTexan]

15 minutes ago, Memories4K said:

LMAO.

I mean...depends on what you're talking about.

If you mean power, then sure.

But that's a pretty broad label to so confidently attach to the U.S., especially when we fall behind in a lot of ways, don'tcha think?

Hate America all you want. You are free to do so. When you have lived in another country you will understand why it is the greatest nation in the world.

[AlwaysFSX]

2 minutes ago, DutchTexan said:

Hate America all you want. You are free to do so. When you have lived in another country you will understand why it is the greatest nation in the world.

Yes, that's exactly why we have garbage food standards, terrible education, terrible health care, an infrastructure that's becoming non-existent, monopolies in high-tech industries, and one of the worst economies in the world.

 

Because we're so great.

 

Yup.

[Memories4K]

17 hours ago, LAwLz said:

I am not sure how I was suppose to get that from these sentences:

 

It's kind of hard to understand a comparison when there is no comparison being made. It's like saying "Banana is not a good fruit. Let's ask people who like the color orange."

It makes no sense.

 

 

So why do you want the US to keep "control of the Internet" (which is a bullshit term by the way)? The US is one of the least trustworthy nations and should have as little control as possible. Again, they are on the same list of enemies as Russia and China, the countries you are afraid of. One terrible country having full control "over the Internet" is much worse than letting an organization comprised of about 200 members, some of which are bad, have control.

 

 

 

No problem.

The US sucks full time. Doesn't even take Saturdays or Sundays off. It sucks so hard it could suck a watermelon though a drinking straw.

No, i had thought there was some context already setup, my mistake.

 

See it's not control, that's not what this is about. Again, The internet's not a magic cable box gifted by the Gods that we're about to hand-off via some kind of trade. We're really just talking about oversight (which still isn't small, i get that) you have a very naive view of the U.N. friend. It would behoove you to look more into how the U.N. has actually operated since over a couple of decades ago and the controversies surrounding it.

 

You'll take back those words once our God-emperor, Trump, gets elected and he builds and beautiful wall surrounding your small cumz Swedish adult day-care of a nation.

All facetiousness aside, yeah, no, our country really falls short of a lot lawl i wish we did do some things better.

 

17 hours ago, DutchTexan said:

Hate America all you want. You are free to do so. When you have lived in another country you will understand why it is the greatest nation in the world.

I mean, i've lived in several and yeah America wins by a mile.

That doesn't mean we couldn't stand to do a lot better or that other countries don't beat us in a variety of other categories.

 

17 hours ago, AlwaysFSX said:

Yes, that's exactly why we have garbage food standards, terrible education, terrible health care, an infrastructure that's becoming non-existent, monopolies in high-tech industries, and one of the worst economies in the world.

 

Because we're so great.

 

Yup.

Hold the phone.

What's garbage about our food standards?

I need to know what you mean exactly, because we're pretty damn good in my line of work.

[AlwaysFSX]

Just now, Memories4K said:

Hold the phone.

What's garbage about our food standards?

I need to know what you mean exactly, because we're pretty damn good in my line of work.

The US is very chemical happy when it comes to handling, cleaning, transportation, or storage of food. I shouldn't need a couple different stabilizers to make soup not spoil in a can.

 

Not to mention everything has so much freaking sugar. Good god it's disgusting.

[DutchTexan]

17 hours ago, AlwaysFSX said:

Yes, that's exactly why we have garbage food standards, terrible education, terrible health care, an infrastructure that's becoming non-existent, monopolies in high-tech industries, and one of the worst economies in the world.

 

Because we're so great.

 

Yup.

The political system may not be the best. Not putting any blame on anything, but you’re right. The economy is the worst in the world? Um, I don’t follow or know how to interpret that to be true. Relative to ourselves, haha you are right, we have the worst economic growth! Where I live there is no issues with our infrastructure. You’re going to say we are a monopolized nation? Really? That would be Brazil, to name one example, who’s whole government is basically a singular oil company.

 

I am going to go ahead and take a guess that you have not finished or have finished high school in the past 3 years. Federal education, aka social conditioning, has taken a very bad turn recently. The recent education standards have conditioned individuals to see every negative about this nation whilst just skimming over the positives.

 

Let me ask you, where are the highest quality institutes of higher education in the world? How many of them are on US soil? 

Let me ask you, where are the highest quality institutes of medical treatment in the world? How many of them are on US soil?

 

Now pricing may not be remotely good, but you can thank the last 10 years of government for failing us in that respect.

 

Food standards!! Almost missed that one! Actually, I can’t really comment on that, to be honest. I get a lot of food tax free from my backyard. When I do buy food, it is from HED or Kroger, they sell very high quality stuff, no complaints. 

 

Your reality may be different. But I love this country and I will defend it until I die. I love this country. Even though Obama and liberals want to kill everything good we have going, I still love this country. And they too are Americans. 

 

17 hours ago, Memories4K said:

No, i had thought there was some context already setup, my mistake.

 

See it's not control, that's not what this is about. Again, The internet's not a magic cable box gifted by the Gods that we're about to hand-off via some kind of trade. We're really just talking about oversight (which still isn't small, i get that) you have a very naive view of the U.N. friend. It would behoove you to look more into how the U.N. has actually operated since over a couple of decades ago and the controversies surrounding it.

 

You'll take back those words once our God-emperor, Trump, gets elected and he builds and beautiful wall surrounding your small cumz Swedish adult day-care of a nation.

All facetiousness aside, yeah, no, our country really falls short of a lot lawl i wish we did do some things better.

Honestly, I don’t like Trump

[Memories4K]

Just now, AlwaysFSX said:

The US is very chemical happy when it comes to handling, cleaning, transportation, or storage of food. I shouldn't need a couple different stabilizers to make soup not spoil in a can.

 

Not to mention everything has so much freaking sugar. Good god it's disgusting.

"Chemical happy"

You're not one of those anti-GMO activists who think GMOs cause cancer or some shit right?

Let me put your fears to rest right now and tell you that the science behind the food is sound.

I think you're confusing "chemicals" with just a regular ingredient list.

Also, there's nothing wrong with sugar.

The U.S. biggest problem regarding food is education, not the food.

Amerifats and Lardy McFatAss' biggest problem is an over-consumption of calories, a nutritionally-deficient diet, and a completely distorted view of what it means to have a healthy diet (Such as believing only organic, gluten-free, grass-fed almonds to make almond milk is the only way to eat healthy but is also more expensive, thereby justifying their poor eating habits on cost)

[Memories4K]

1 minute ago, DutchTexan said:

Honestly, I don’t like Trump

Doesn't surprise me. He's not conservative and he's managed to turn the Republican party on it's head despite being constantly portrayed as "one of those evil Republicans that hates anything not Jesus or white".

 

Also, i was just having a giggle lad.

I T W A S A Y O K E, EH?

[DutchTexan]

1 minute ago, Memories4K said:

"Chemical happy"

You're not one of those anti-GMO activists who think GMOs cause cancer or some shit right?

Let me put your fears to rest right now and tell you that the science behind the food is sound.

I think you're confusing "chemicals" with just a regular ingredient list.

Also, there's nothing wrong with sugar.

The U.S. biggest problem regarding food is education, not the food.

Amerifats and Lardy McFatAss' biggest problem is an over-consumption of calories, a nutritionally-deficient diet, and a completely distorted view of what it means to have a healthy diet (Such as believing only organic, gluten-free, grass-fed almonds to make almond milk is the only way to eat healthy but is also more expensive, thereby justifying their poor eating habits on cost)

 

6 minutes ago, AlwaysFSX said:

The US is very chemical happy when it comes to handling, cleaning, transportation, or storage of food. I shouldn't need a couple different stabilizers to make soup not spoil in a can.

 

Not to mention everything has so much freaking sugar. Good god it's disgusting.

Yeah this is a bunch of crap. If you go to Walmart and buy the absolute cheapest ‘edible’ products then you’re probably going to be eating some less than quality products.

 

I would and will very easily argue that we have the highest quality food available to a larger base of consumers than any other nation. You just have to pay for it, shocker!?

[Memories4K]

2 minutes ago, Nicholatian said:

The only fear anyone has is fear itself. You choose to be afraid, or to not be. It’s up to you.

 

Besides, shared global authority is a good thing as it splits the decision-making power across countries. Sorry if you’re afraid of losing totalitarian control… it’s probably not good for you anyway.

I think you misunderstood what i commented.

[42kq]

UN is a Useless organization sticking their hands up everyone else's asses!

 

Where were they when my country was invaded by the soviets? All they did was draft a resolution condemning the 'heavy handedness.' How about when those two feminazi's testified against free speech? Why are the lies of two women worth more than the freedom of billions of individuals? And when they do, do something they rape, pillage and murder no better than the people they claim to fight against! 

 

I work two blocks from the UN, I've seen their corruption firsthand. It's not fair that they can shut down streets, search people in their own homes and businesses, and have guards who carry full auto rifles, while I cant even open a window otherwise they'ed shoot me and/or lock me up for 24 hours as a security threat. 

 

Fuck the UN

[DutchTexan]

Just now, Memories4K said:

Doesn't surprise me. He's not conservative and he's managed to turn the Republican party on it's head despite being constantly portrayed as "one of those evil Republicans that hates anything not Jesus or white".

 

Also, i was just having a giggle lad.

I T W A S A Y O K E, EH?

I don’t agree with everything he says. Neither the republican party nor any other form of establishment appreciate his presence. 

 

In the same breath, you can still bet I will be voting for him. Supreme Court. Wall. 2nd Amendment stays unmolested. Less Taxes. 

[Memories4K]

1 minute ago, DutchTexan said:

 

Yeah this is a bunch of crap. If you go to Walmart and buy the absolute cheapest ‘edible’ products then you’re probably going to be eating some less than quality products.

 

I would and will very easily argue that we have the highest quality food available to a larger base of consumers than any other nation. You just have to pay for it, shocker!?

Cheaper, more easily produced, tastier, and higher-quality genetically modified blueberries over the more expensive organic meme blueberries? Yeah, i would buy the cheaper option because it's actually better, don't meme yourself friend.

I'm not saying go that one shady grocery store and look for cans of somehow expired SPAM. I'm saying be smart and don't be afraid of "chemicals".