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I was planning to upgrade my GTX 960 to GTX 1070, but now the GTX 1060 came out and I'm not sure which one to get. I want it to be as future proof as possible but still at lowest price as possible. The GTX 1060 is 350 € and the GTX 1070 is 550 € Basicly which one would be the best bang for the buck for 1080p gaming?

 

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8 minutes ago, Varpin said:

Hello!

I was planning to upgrade my GTX 960 to GTX 1070, but now the GTX 1060 came out and I'm not sure which one to get. I want it to be as future proof as possible but still at lowest price as possible. The GTX 1060 is 350 € and the GTX 1070 is 550 € Basicly which one would be the best bang for the buck for 1080p gaming?

 

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The 1060 is better value at 1080p (1070 is kind of a waste at this resolution), although obviously the 1070 will last longer (4+ Years at 1080p). I would say the RX 480 is the best value as it outperforms the 1060 in DX12 games and is cheaper. I would only get the 1060 if you plan to upgrade again soon (1-2 years). Otherwise get the RX480 if you want to hold on to it for a while. 

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RX 480 or GTX 1070, it's hard to recommend GTX 1060 if you plan to use it for long as it doesn't have SLI support which means you need to sell it for cheap and get another card if you want to upgrade.

 

GTX 1060 is enough for 1080p gaming but since we're moving forward with DX12, RX480 is a better pick and you'll be able to CF it if needed.

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Get the RX 480, good card for the future. You can get a second later on (1060 doesn't do SLI) and use CrossFireX. AMD has better multi GPU than Nvidia anyway.

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49 minutes ago, Varpin said:

Hello!

I was planning to upgrade my GTX 960 to GTX 1070, but now the GTX 1060 came out and I'm not sure which one to get. I want it to be as future proof as possible but still at lowest price as possible. The GTX 1060 is 350 € and the GTX 1070 is 550 € Basicly which one would be the best bang for the buck for 1080p gaming?

 

Thanks! :) 

Best vaue? That would be the RX 480 (it's usually cheaper for very similar performance). If you have an i5, 1070 will get bottlenecked.

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2 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

Best vaue? That would be the RX 480 (it's usually cheaper for very similar performance). If you have an i5, 1070 will get bottlenecked.

Can you explain more about this?  About why an i5 would bottleneck a 1070?

 

Also, would any i5 get bottlenrcked or just i5s older than a certain generation?

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Just now, Bleedingyamato said:

Can you explain more about this?  About why an i5 would bottleneck a 1070?

 

Also, would any i5 get bottlenrcked or just i5s older than a certain generation?

i5s have reached their limits. 1070/1080/980 Ti/Fury X simply get bottlenecked. i7s are 20-40% faster due to HT (and games ARE using it actively now).

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2 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

i5s have reached their limits. 1070/1080/980 Ti/Fury X simply get bottlenecked. i7s are 20-40% faster due to HT (and games ARE using it actively now).

I'm planning a build for a friend and currently I'm looking to use an i5-6600K.  

 

Eventually when I replace my GTX 1070 I'm going to give it to my friend to replace the GTX 970 I'm giving my friend for the build.  

 

So you're saying a 1070 would be bottlenecked by a 6600K?  (Stock speed in case that matters.)

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Just now, Bleedingyamato said:

I'm planning a build for a friend and currently I'm looking to use an i5-6600K.  

 

Eventually when I replace my GTX 1070 I'm going to give it to my friend to replace the GTX 970 I'm giving my friend for the build.  

 

So you're saying a 1070 would be bottlenecked by a 6600K?  (Stock speed in case that matters.)

Yes. It will.

 

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10 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

Best vaue? That would be the RX 480 (it's usually cheaper for very similar performance). If you have an i5, 1070 will get bottlenecked.

 

4 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

i5s have reached their limits. 1070/1080/980 Ti/Fury X simply get bottlenecked. i7s are 20-40% faster due to HT (and games ARE using it actively now).

No doubt GTX1070 wont be utilized to its full potential with older i5 CPUs, but I have to disagree that it is waste of money to buy it in first place.

At the moment I have G1 Gaming 1070 in my rig (switched from heavily OCed 1060) and I experienced fps boost in Witcher 3 (everything maxed od obciously) in most GPU demanding areas from 40+ to 70+ fps, just like that.

All that with my old i5 4570. 

So I would say its not nearly as bad as so some poeple claim. + You can always upgrade in the future.

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Games use bugger all CPU power these days. An i5 bottlenecking a 1070? Can anyone tell me then why my 1060 at 1080p, games rarely use more that 60% of my i5 3570k?

That's because the video card still bottlenecking a 4 year old CPU in modern games. 

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9 minutes ago, BolginNT said:

 

No doubt GTX1070 wont be utilized to its full potential with older i5 CPUs, but I have to disagree that it is waste of money to buy it in first place.

At the moment I have G1 Gaming 1070 in my rig (switched from heavily OCed 1060) and I experienced fps boost in Witcher 3 (everything maxed od obciously) in most GPU demanding areas from 40+ to 70+ fps, just like that.

All that with my old i5 4570. 

So I would say its not nearly as bad as so some poeple claim. + You can always upgrade in the future.

And with an i7 you'd be getting 90fps.

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2 minutes ago, killcomic said:

Games use bugger all CPU power these days. An i5 bottlenecking a 1070? Can anyone tell me then why my 1060 at 1080p, games rarely use more that 60% of my i5 3570k?

That's because the video card still bottlenecking a 4 year old CPU in modern games. 

cause the 1070 is over 40% faster than a 1060?

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13 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

Yes. It will.

 

I couldn't read the stuff in the upper left corner but I assume the fps dips indicate a CPU bottleneck?

 

Would an i7-6700 be enough to prevent a CPU bottleneck?

 

It may be a while before I'd be replacing my 1070 and giving that to my friend so idk if it pays to get a more expensive i7 vs. an i5 but I'm tempted to do so since it would be cheaper in the long run to just get a CPU that won't bottleneck a 1070 in the first place rather than upgrade to a good enough CPU in the future.

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10 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

And with an i7 you'd be getting 90fps.

That may be true but the point is 1070 is viable option for anybody who can spare more cash for more powerful GPU and still have unprecedented gaming experience at 1080p / 1200p (my case) even with i5 cpus. 

I dont want to start any pointless argument. But i personally had a chance to test RX480, GTx1060 and now GTX1070 and I can see the difference firsthand and its not a small difference at all.

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24 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

cause the 1070 is over 40% faster than a 1060?

Still doesn't change the fact that games still using bugger all CPU power, and no, and i5 is not a bottleneck, not unless you're playing a crappy console port from 2012 where everything was rendered by a single thread on the CPU.

 

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1 hour ago, Bleedingyamato said:

I couldn't read the stuff in the upper left corner but I assume the fps dips indicate a CPU bottleneck?

 

Would an i7-6700 be enough to prevent a CPU bottleneck?

 

It may be a while before I'd be replacing my 1070 and giving that to my friend so idk if it pays to get a more expensive i7 vs. an i5 but I'm tempted to do so since it would be cheaper in the long run to just get a CPU that won't bottleneck a 1070 in the first place rather than upgrade to a good enough CPU in the future.

6700 is fine.  Get that preferably. People need to finally realize i5s have hit their limit and stop fanboying over them. That thread has not only video proof but users also saying that they've noticed it themselves.

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2 hours ago, don_svetlio said:

Best vaue? That would be the RX 480 (it's usually cheaper for very similar performance). If you have an i5, 1070 will get bottlenecked.

No, an i5 does NOT bottleneck a GTX 1070.

Can you please stop spreading misinformations? ;)

This is FALSE, and there is no Test that proofs that. Except the i7 can "hold the frames a LITTLE bit more stable".

I honestly doubt, that anyone will be able to notice blind if theres an i5 or i7 in the PC.

 

The difference is SO minimal, that it doesnt matter for Gamers, who don't multitask behind the Game itself. it will be mostly a few % differences, or even less.

The GPU bottlenecks an i5 6500 even, because a stronger GPU (1080) already will give much more performance.

 

EDIT: How about you link some Tests that proof that an i5 bottlenecks? lol. Unless you do, this is just a stupid talk tbh.

 

And btw, regarding the RX 480: The 8gb model, depending on Country, cost 10-30€ more than a custom GTX 1060, consumes a good 20-40 Watt more, and is still 5-12% behind a GTX 1060 overall.

In this Performance class, there is no "future proof". When the 1060 is too slow for a game/setting, the rx 480 will be too. Those cards will always just be a few % away from each other in overall performance, so it doesnt't really matter. You can honestly buy the cheapest of those, or the quietest...  That will be the biggest Difference.

 

 

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