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Jagged Shadows,Pop in,Low LOD and jagged aa

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WkdPaul
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Aww yes. Now I know exactly what date I started having the problem.

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9 hours ago, BuckGup said:

Aww yes. Now I know exactly what date I started having the problem.

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For me it started long time before this.

But i think it was going worst each year :(.


I have some games i can't play anymore (dragonage origin).

BTW 1800x at home :) .

 

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51 minutes ago, lordante said:

So, all computer is connected, i need to wait for GPU now...

I'm stressed ><

Eeeee!

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FX-8350 // Deepcool Neptwin // MSI 970 Gaming // AData 2x 4GB 1600 DDR3 // 2x Gigabyte RX-570 4G's // Samsung 840 120GB SSD // Cooler Master V650 // Windows 10

 

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EXPERIMENTAL: Pinebook // 11.6" 1080p // Manjaro KDE (ARM)

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20 minutes ago, MEC-777 said:

 

lol I see you've found your way to the new one xD 

Hopefully more luck this time... tbh I've only read the OP

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At what point does this evolve into paranoia/religion and someone suggests its an NSA intrusion spreading between your toasters :P

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4 minutes ago, Rune said:

At what point does this evolve into paranoia/religion and someone suggests its an NSA intrusion spreading between your toasters :P

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Going by what I remember from the previous thread, it may as well be.  They/we were desperate... like, really desperate.  Any kind of correlation seemed impossible to find, never mind proof of causation.

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This conspiracy theory comes from people that believe that computers are magic and have zero understanding of how they work.

 

The problem is in Drivers, Games, or your GPUs capabilities.

 

Also, older games on new hardware run through a type of emulation or code wrapping (this is how DX supports old versions).  They are likely not going to work 100% accurately, and may have some graphical differences due to hardware and software differences over the ages.

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5 minutes ago, KarathKasun said:

This conspiracy theory comes from people that believe that computers are magic and have zero understanding of how they work.

 

The problem is in Drivers, Games, or your GPUs capabilities.

 

Also, older games on new hardware run through a type of emulation or code wrapping (this is how DX supports old versions).  They are likely not going to work 100% accurately, and may have some graphical differences due to hardware and software differences over the ages.

Except the problem starts randomly on PCs that didn't have it before and not all PCs have the issue. If it was the same across the board I wouldn't see an issue. But it's not

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39 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

Except the problem starts randomly on PCs that didn't have it before and not all PCs have the issue. If it was the same across the board I wouldn't see an issue. But it's not

 

If that is true, you should have a 100% controlled experiment to find what it is.  Just going through this thread, this is placebo at best and driver/Direct X/Windows update related.

 

Been building computers for over 20 years and gaming for 25, I've never seen this in the way people are presenting it.

 

If you are on intel IGP, its possible that the drivers are recompiling shader code in a way that is causing a quality change.  Same with other GPUs really, they compile shaders at run time.  If something gets updated and the cache isnt cleared, you could very well get odd shader behavior.

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39 minutes ago, KarathKasun said:

 

If that is true, you should have a 100% controlled experiment to find what it is.  Just going through this thread, this is placebo at best and driver/Direct X/Windows update related.

 

Been building computers for over 20 years and gaming for 25, I've never seen this in the way people are presenting it.

 

If you are on intel IGP, its possible that the drivers are recompiling code that is causing a change.  Same with other GPUs really, they compile shaders at run time.  If something gets updated and the cache isnt cleared, you could very well get odd shader behavior.

I've been pc gaming for 13 years, never once have I encountered a problem like this that I couldn't fix through replacing hardware or reformatting. Trust me I can understand why people think we sound insane but every solution that has been tried doesn't work and it just doesn't make sense. We are just as confused.This problem suddenly started happening and I went through every logical solution to fix it, and even ultimately purchased a brand new pre-built pc. Somehow it's here on my new pc aswell as every other computer in my home. It's an incredibly noticeable aliasing in all games that makes every edge of walls, objects and fine lines shimmer and pulsate with jaggies. Something so specific as Anti-aliasing just NOT working in any way on all my pc's. I know this isnt simply "how things are" or the way they are supposed to look because i remember the very drastic and sudden change in the way all of my games now look. I also can go to my friends house where he has similiar specs to me (intel i7) (nvidia gfx) and doesnt have the problem. All of the edges of the walls are smoothed with proper anti aliasing and fine lines dont shimmer in his games. I know how crazy this sounds but I've been having this issue for a year now and have tried everything to no avail.

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Did you ever think it could be a contrast or sharpness setting on your monitor?  Have you tried using an OS without automatic updates enabled?  Thats my issue with this bull, nobody even keeps track of variables.

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7 hours ago, KarathKasun said:

Did you ever think it could be a contrast or sharpness setting on your monitor?  Have you tried using an OS without automatic updates enabled?  Thats my issue with this bull, nobody even keeps track of variables.

i tested 3 monitors. None with same setting. one was even a TV (i ever tested 3d!!!)

I tested settings too anyway.

BTW: when i use virtual 4k resolution, it lower the bug.

So: it can't be DPI, it can't be screen setting because it is more or less viewable whith different resolution. It is directly related with texture.

The Z-fighting trouble can be one of the key. 

But the thing i see: Aliasing is working bad, it generate some white pixels. So we see the pixel lines "moving" on edge of textures. It is even more bad when you move camera or view angle.

 

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8 hours ago, KarathKasun said:

 

If that is true, you should have a 100% controlled experiment to find what it is.  Just going through this thread, this is placebo at best and driver/Direct X/Windows update related.

 

Been building computers for over 20 years and gaming for 25, I've never seen this in the way people are presenting it.

 

If you are on intel IGP, its possible that the drivers are recompiling shader code in a way that is causing a quality change.  Same with other GPUs really, they compile shaders at run time.  If something gets updated and the cache isnt cleared, you could very well get odd shader behavior.

Wouldn't a DDU clear the cache though?

7 hours ago, KarathKasun said:

Did you ever think it could be a contrast or sharpness setting on your monitor?  Have you tried using an OS without automatic updates enabled?  Thats my issue with this bull, nobody even keeps track of variables.

Not a monitor problem as it shows up in screenshots and recordings.

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10 hours ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

lol I see you've found your way to the new one xD 

Hopefully more luck this time... tbh I've only read the OP

Been following this thread from the beginning. While I remain largely skeptical, I am also genuinely curious. Some members have produced plausible evidence showing issues that do exist (that didn't before on the same system without changing anything) regardless of graphics settings and are difficult to explain [the cause]. 

8 hours ago, KarathKasun said:

 

If that is true, you should have a 100% controlled experiment to find what it is.  Just going through this thread, this is placebo at best and driver/Direct X/Windows update related.

 

Been building computers for over 20 years and gaming for 25, I've never seen this in the way people are presenting it.

 

If you are on intel IGP, its possible that the drivers are recompiling shader code in a way that is causing a quality change.  Same with other GPUs really, they compile shaders at run time.  If something gets updated and the cache isnt cleared, you could very well get odd shader behavior.

I thought the same thing and even said the same things (in this thread and the old one). I think between the old thread and this one, some of those affected by the power of suggestion and placebo were somewhat rooted out. It's very difficult to know when your system is suddenly going to change the way it renders and thus, difficult to record what it looked like before and after this "issue" hit your system. 

 

If you've read through this thread, you'd know that several people have tried replacing every component (one at a time and all together) as well as reinstalling windows and the problem persists. The only documented change that actually allegedly fixed most of the issues was when a member upgraded from the Intel Haswell platform to AMD Ryzen. @lordante is building a Ryzen system as we speak to see if this is a repeatable fix or not. 

 

I was and still am skeptical, but enough people are complaining about experiencing the same thing happening. It's difficult to ignore and dismiss if the fix was "that simple".  

7 hours ago, KarathKasun said:

Did you ever think it could be a contrast or sharpness setting on your monitor?  Have you tried using an OS without automatic updates enabled?  Thats my issue with this bull, nobody even keeps track of variables.

From my understanding (because I haven't experienced these issues) is that nothing has been changed with the system. They are simply playing the same games, one day to the next. One day, the game looks and runs fine. The next, it is as if all forms of AA are now broken and noneffective. Shadows are more blocky, there is increased texture and object pop-in where there was not before. It's like the graphics settings have been changed yet nothing has been touched. 

 

Where I get REALLY skeptical is when they claim this has affected other devices in their homes (game consoles, TV's, laptops etc.). That makes absolutely no sense, IMO. 

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Reading through the thread some more, 90% trolls or uneducated tech plebs that think they should have I-Max quality graphics.

 

MSAA does not work properly with anything recent, it only works on some items because deferred shading.

 

People claiming their GTA icons also got more pixelated, HAHAHA, WUT?

 

If someone wants to make this not a tinfoil hat topic, post screen caps of all the games you play that are impacted with caps of the settings screens as well.  Though there are ways to cheat that and troll even harder.

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2 hours ago, KarathKasun said:

Reading through the thread some more, 90% trolls or uneducated tech plebs that think they should have I-Max quality graphics.

 

MSAA does not work properly with anything recent, it only works on some items because deferred shading.

 

People claiming their GTA icons also got more pixelated, HAHAHA, WUT?

 

If someone wants to make this not a tinfoil hat topic, post screen caps of all the games you play that are impacted with caps of the settings screens as well.  Though there are ways to cheat that and troll even harder.

If you don't want to help, then do not disturb. "post screen caps of all the games you play that are impacted" so you want us to record EVERY game that exist? Because games are not impacted. Our PCs are. When I discovered this problem on my PC, for about one month I tried to figure out what's wrong on my own. Then I created a topic on forum in my country. And you know what? They laughed at me and the topic has been deleted. I posted screens, but they didn't believe me. You are just another guy who doesn't believe, and you are not even trying to help us. I hope it'll infect your PC too, so you will stop talking about settings and resolution. 

 

I don't have money to try new hardware which can fix the issue, but everyday I'm looking for something new on the internet. I'm trying to fix it. You don't want? Then leave and do not disturb.

 

Pixelated icons? F#ck icons! I CAN'T EVEN WATCH A MOVIE BECAUSE OF SCREEN TEARING AND JAGGIES! And you are trying to say that problem doesn't exist? Burn in hell.

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2 hours ago, KarathKasun said:

Reading through the thread some more, 90% trolls or uneducated tech plebs that think they should have I-Max quality graphics.

 

MSAA does not work properly with anything recent, it only works on some items because deferred shading.

 

People claiming their GTA icons also got more pixelated, HAHAHA, WUT?

 

If someone wants to make this not a tinfoil hat topic, post screen caps of all the games you play that are impacted with caps of the settings screens as well.  Though there are ways to cheat that and troll even harder.

Why would people go through the money and effort to troll themselves about an issue they have? What? No really people have invested hundreds of hours and dollars in trying to fix this for a simple troll? You sir can screw off. Oh and when you eventually get the problem don't come crying back looking for an issue. There is enough pics and videos in this thread to show something isn't right. Now if you want to be helpful posting your specs and a screenshot or short video of a game, with settings, would help a lot.

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4 hours ago, KarathKasun said:

Reading through the thread some more, 90% trolls or uneducated tech plebs that think they should have I-Max quality graphics.

 

MSAA does not work properly with anything recent, it only works on some items because deferred shading.

 

People claiming their GTA icons also got more pixelated, HAHAHA, WUT?

 

If someone wants to make this not a tinfoil hat topic, post screen caps of all the games you play that are impacted with caps of the settings screens as well.  Though there are ways to cheat that and troll even harder.

Know what?

Leave and go troll somewhere else man...

Don't have time to lose with people like you!

AIDS doesn't esit because YOU never get it? That's how you think man...

JUST LEAVE :).

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5 hours ago, KarathKasun said:

Reading through the thread some more, 90% trolls or uneducated tech plebs that think they should have I-Max quality graphics.

 

MSAA does not work properly with anything recent, it only works on some items because deferred shading.

 

People claiming their GTA icons also got more pixelated, HAHAHA, WUT?

 

If someone wants to make this not a tinfoil hat topic, post screen caps of all the games you play that are impacted with caps of the settings screens as well.  Though there are ways to cheat that and troll even harder.

Yes, some people were complaining about issues that were related to low PPI and things that are the way they are by nature, in that regard. I called those people out on that and a lot of those people have left the discussion since. 

 

Now, I don't think you fully understand the situation some of these people are facing who have claimed to have these issues. There was no warning. They changed nothing and nothing they have tried has fix the issue afterwards (save for possibly moving to Ryzen - how this can be? I don't know). So it's basically impossible to get a before and after screenshots and or video recordings. I too have asked people to do that very thing, but if you don't know it's going to happen and you're not expecting it to happen... you're kinda sol when it does happen.

 

If you don't want to help, that's fine. I am asking you to then move on. 

 

To everyone else, let's just chill and carry on. 

 

Personal attacks are not tolerated. Period. Let's all keep it civil please. Thanks. 

 

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1 hour ago, lordante said:

Know what?

Leave and go troll somewhere else man...

Don't have time to lose with people like you!

AIDS doesn't esit because YOU never get it? That's how you think man...

JUST LEAVE :).

No, your logic is "I feel like there is AIDS in my body so I must be infected, doctors don't know what they are talking about".

 

Document it rather than just crying about it.  Take screencaps and keep a log of what has changed with the system, keep an eye on MS updates, Steam updates, and any other automated update.  Log EVERY change and the resulting output.  Just throwing money at the problem is an indication of the level of technical experience of some of those here.

 

As for the 'I didnt do nuthin', you don't have to do anything for something to change with Steam or Windows 7+.

 

I would put money on a number of these problem reports being actual trolls.

 

If someone wants me or anyone else to see what the software side of things are doing, image your OS and send it to someone on a flash drive or on a stack of DVD's.  Include a list of hardware too so that can be replicated.  I personally have Phenom II, Sandy Bridge, Haswell mobile/IGP, Ryzen, and a few other misc platforms to test with.  I do not have current high end GPUs though, I have the following... GTX 670 4gb, GTX 750 Ti 2gb, GT610 1gb, R7 265 2gb, R9 290 4gb, R7 250 2gb, and RX 470 4gb.  Give me a scenario to test.

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2 hours ago, KarathKasun said:

No, your logic is "I feel like there is AIDS in my body so I must be infected, doctors don't know what they are talking about".

 

Document it rather than just crying about it.  Take screencaps and keep a log of what has changed with the system, keep an eye on MS updates, Steam updates, and any other automated update.  Log EVERY change and the resulting output.  Just throwing money at the problem is an indication of the level of technical experience of some of those here.

 

As for the 'I didnt do nuthin', you don't have to do anything for something to change with Steam or Windows 7+.

 

I would put money on a number of these problem reports being actual trolls.

 

If someone wants me or anyone else to see what the software side of things are doing, image your OS and send it to someone on a flash drive or on a stack of DVD's.  Include a list of hardware too so that can be replicated.  I personally have Phenom II, Sandy Bridge, Haswell mobile/IGP, Ryzen, and a few other misc platforms to test with.  I do not have current high end GPUs though, I have the following... GTX 670 4gb, GTX 750 Ti 2gb, GT610 1gb, R7 265 2gb, R9 290 4gb, R7 250 2gb, and RX 470 4gb.  Give me a scenario to test.

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I can tell you right now that Minecraft does NOT work with AA at all.  DSR crashes when you go fullscreen. FSAA was forced on in the driver for these, it does nothing.  It has done nothing for a long time now.

 

Folder with caps from R5 1400 with GTX 670.

Folder with caps from IvyBridge using iGPU in linux.

 

I remember why I stopped playing MC now, its a game built solely from bugs and programming glitches.  The game resolution scales with Windows UI scaling... WUT?  That's one mystery solved.  Also, do NOT force AF unless you disable it in game, it breaks the graphics pretty bad if you have it enabled in both places.  16X AF creates odd shimmering in some places due to the design of the textures, 4X AF is plenty for MC and causes the least issues.

 

Attached image is about what MC looks like using DSR.  Getting DSR working is very jankey but looks pretty good.

Steps to get MC working with DSR...

 

disable DPI scaling for the Minecraft shortcut

make sure full screen is disabled in game

set DSR factors in NV Control Panel

set desktop resolution to your desired DSR factor (4k on 1080p gives 4x AA)

start game

maximize the game window

NEVER hit F11, game will crash.

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Your screen just confirm you didn't read anything on this thread.
If you had take a look at it, you will know this moutain is "screened" from the other side.

So you try to play the super hero, but finaly, you missed the bug on the two screens about the same moutain. You did not read the thread, how can you confirm or cancel anything on it?

ANYWAY congratulation, you are not "infected" or "affected", now, read the thread, stop thinking you are the messia, and see what is wrong on the moutain image given earlier.

BTW, it is simple, i up to date my computer's drivers every week (since years now). I listed all my Hardware (and changed all parts too). The only factors staying: Intel, windows (but i changed from 7 to 10).
The only one who get ride of this did something "new", because Ryzen is "new".
The only one making the test is me (even if it will be a fail, we can remove Intel suspicion).

But if you want us to make "pro" test, OK, just give me the money!!!
I sold all my Hardware to get to Ryzen (and i made a smart move, selling my old hardwares make me win near 200€). I will not test product one by one, because if i do and the corruption is the one passing between Cmos/GPU... I'm fu..d!

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