Gaming CPU recommendation

[Honeydiddle]

Hi all,

 

So i may be getting my girlfriends little brother to sell his xbox to fund a gaming PC. So now i'm looking for a CPU that should be good to handle all the next gen games for 2 years or so. I'll put all the options in the poll. No overclocking will be done as it will stretch the budget too far with coolers, motherboard etc.

 

Thanks

[coen113]

an xbox is worth second hand about 50 bucks, but the 8350 should do the job. just get a decent mobo, you dont need an ROG board, but dont get an m-atx mobo

[Honeydiddle]

an xbox is worth second hand about 50 bucks, but the 8350 should do the job. just get a decent mobo, you dont need an ROG board, but dont get an m-atx mobo

i should have said xbox 360 with like 10 games including GTA V etc lol my bad

[coen113]

i should have said xbox 360 with like 10 games including GTA V etc lol my bad

10 games are worth maybe 60 dollars still not that much

[Koori]

i5 3350P / i5 3470 / i5 3570 / i5 4570 / i5 4670

but seems like if all 8 cores will be use for gaming next time... FX8350 seems like a better choice.

[frontliner]

Get the 8-core and be done with it.

[D3MON]

gigabyte ud3 (8+2 power phase etc), 7950 and 8320 (atleast overclock it to 4-4.2ghz its wrong not to, but no more), hyper 212 evo and hes good for more than 2 years, your going to have to put more cash into it so £470 for many years to come, (pretty much a 1 configuration fits all), darn sight better than any next gen console.

[DrunkAssassin]

FX 8320 better price to performance it's an 8350 with a lower clock speed for like $20-$50 (If you're lucky) less.

[Honeydiddle]

I still feel the 4670 is the best of the lot and votes are sort of reflecting that too

[Sigmatech]

I still feel the 4670 is the best of the lot and votes are sort of reflecting that too

As a owner of the 4670 i can say it's definitely a quick and nimble little processor. I would maybe say it would be as good as the 8350 (For gaming) as they both match up for load times quite well.

If you are worried about Gaming performance on a Single GPu however then a 4430/4440 (As they are now i think on PB Tech?) will be just as great. I'm starting to see a trend where more cards=better gaming experience and i think AMD is about to take that one home to the bank.

Just bought myself a 7970 and planning on grabbing another one asap to CFX to really see if the 4670 can handle it. However if Mantle does behave as advertised and the 4670 DOESN'T do as well as an 8-core by the time Mantle drops i will be a little surprised. I'm currently sitting on my CPu for now but definitely jumping to AMD Cards. Nvidia i think at this point is kinda stiffing the gamer when it comes to price/Performance. Asking too much money for an experience AMD can (almost) provide at a fraction of the cost.

(Just my opinion)

[Honeydiddle]

As a owner of the 4670 i can say it's definitely a quick and nimble little processor. I would maybe say it would be as good as the 8350 (For gaming) as they both match up for load times quite well.

If you are worried about Gaming performance on a Single GPu however then a 4430/4440 (As they are now i think on PB Tech?) will be just as great. I'm starting to see a trend where more cards=better gaming experience and i think AMD is about to take that one home to the bank.

Just bought myself a 7970 and planning on grabbing another one asap to CFX to really see if the 4670 can handle it. However if Mantle does behave as advertised and the 4670 DOESN'T do as well as an 8-core by the time Mantle drops i will be a little surprised. I'm currently sitting on my CPu for now but definitely jumping to AMD Cards. Nvidia i think at this point is kinda stiffing the gamer when it comes to price/Performance. Asking too much money for an experience AMD can (almost) provide at a fraction of the cost.

(Just my opinion)

Well i'm tempted to go for the same cpu/mobo as you. What games do you run? And what sort of cpu usage do you get on average with these games?

[mgsstar]

Well i'm tempted to go for the same cpu/mobo as you. What games do you run? And what sort of cpu usage do you get on average with these games?

I have a 4670K at stock on a Asus Z87-A and in BF4 open beta it maxes out at 100% but I only experience very little lag spikes on ultra (it has spikes because it is currently in beta).

[Honeydiddle]

I have a 4670K at stock on a Asus Z87-A and in BF4 open beta it maxes out at 100% but I only experience very little lag spikes on ultra (it has spikes because it is currently in beta).

Thanks The thing is that i would go 8350 but a lot of games still use like 1 or 2 cores and there are more games that use 4 cores or less rather than 4 or more

[ProKoN]

I have a 4670K at stock on a Asus Z87-A and in BF4 open beta it maxes out at 100% but I only experience very little lag spikes on ultra (it has spikes because it is currently in beta).

I saw a significant improvement in BF4 swapping out the 4670K with a 4770K. same graphics cards, same settings, I saw a 15-25 FPS increase with the i7. for me BF4 runs all logical 8 cores at 65% ish

[MadManMarsBar]

go with the same as me , 8350 + asus M5A99fx mobo , get a sabretooth if you can tho

[MegaDave91]

4670k all day

[Sigmatech]

Well i'm tempted to go for the same cpu/mobo as you. What games do you run? And what sort of cpu usage do you get on average with these games?

Well i have just jumped up to a mATX board, Listed my ITX on TM today. The kind of games i run are generally single player games or The Old Republic. Single player games include: Witcher 1-2 Ultra, Sleeping Dogs Ultra, Batman Series Ultra, TES/Fallout series on Max.

I don't go for the RTS scene so much and the thing to remember is that BF4's Beta is for Online so CPu usage would be different according to Single Player Campaign (Must be right on this one?) so there is that to consider....However 15-25FPS jumps is quite alot if Logical Cores ARE going to be the way to go in less than a year (Worried a little bit here, hense why i wanna invest in a pair of 7970s). Average usage for me only sits around 40-65% at best. Memory from my Ram jumps out a little nowaways but only in a few games. Batman did this a few times but it's terribly optimised for Single GPu configs.

(See:Blame NVidia for terrible marketing)

[SkulD]

Thanks The thing is that i would go 8350 but a lot of games still use like 1 or 2 cores and there are more games that use 4 cores or less rather than 4 or more

 

BF4 uses all 8 cores of my CPU at around 70%load, no lag spike at all, my problem is with my connection since there are no BF4 servers on my country, but the frames are very smooth.

 

I saw a significant improvement in BF4 swapping out the 4670K with a 4770K. same graphics cards, same settings, I saw a 15-25 FPS increase with the i7. for me BF4 runs all logical 8 cores at 65% ish

 

This ^^ , more cores is better, for BF4 at least, but we can assume that any game from now on that uses the frostbite engine will benefit from that.

 

and with the new consoles having a lot of cores, other games will have to go multithreading.

[ProKoN]

I voted 8350.

 

when people say "budget" and  "gaming" in the same sentence i think its the logical choice next to the 8320

[Sigmatech]

BF4 uses all 8 cores of my CPU at around 70%load, no lag spike at all, my problem is with my connection since there are no BF4 servers on my country, but the frames are very smooth.

 

 

This ^^ , more cores is better, for BF4 at least, but we can assume that any game from now on that uses the frostbite engine will benefit from that.

 

and with the new consoles having a lot of cores, other games will have to go multithreading.

I would just like to point out that the more cores arguement for this is completely invalid as a 4670-4770 both have the same amount of cores.

The extra frames would be provided by the extra threads and by extension the unlocked hyperthreading the i7 provides. Technically if the i5 had them unlocked the performance would be the same between both. SO theoretically an 8350 would make more sense if the 'more cores=better' idea is being said here.

*Noflamewarpls.

[hehehehhehehehe]

Again.. My belief is that there is basically no use for the 4670K especially with the 4770k's xeon counterpart only being slightly more expensive...

[Sigmatech]

@Honeydiddle

I think if you were unsure of anything then just wait until the beta is over and release week is upon us. If you are thinking haswell then 4670 i think might be okay. If you are thinking Budget/save money/only going to be used for specific things e.g. Gaming. Then my advice would be this:

8320 (Should be able to find one somewhere for $200NZD) If you can afford more then 8350 ($260NZD). If benchmarks show up STRONGLY indicating AMDs cores have the advantage then go for this. If the minimal frames amongst all three CPus are the same but the Max launches up then go for the CPu that is the cheapest that provides the best minimum FPS...As you won't see past the 60 mark and you'll never notice it either. The last thing to consider is Mobo costs as AMD/Intel Mobos range about the same here...But as you will soon learn, the feature set is where we get ripped. $250 on a mobo just to have SLi is where i draw the line tbh, dunno where your budget full rests but i guess think of the person the most and where they sit for usage. AMD is looking admittedly good right now but Mantle still has to show us what it can do and personally i wanna see it perform on AMD cards and Intel CPus. That's just my input but i don't think Intel is going for broke anytime soon. Add me as a friend through here or Steam if you'd like and i'd be happy to update you through using my Rig as a template performance wise if that suits you?

If this helps more here as well: If you start adding in things like 1440p/4k res and above then you are theoretically asking for performance increases as well and therefore more money. 

[Sigmatech]

Again.. My belief is that there is basically no use for the 4670K especially with the 4770k's xeon counterpart only being slightly more expensive...

I'd agree on this, I haven't overclocked CPu's yet but from everything i've been shown and explained about Haswell's OCing potential there isn't many gains from this.

It was the reason why i didn't go for the 4670k because i think between an i7/i5 there isn't much between them besides the threading. Complacency is definitely the word being used alot by people at this point in time and i would agree. I simply call the Haswell release Boring because Intel doesn't really have to do anything to get what they want. I think if AMD really starts gaining that ground in the next 6-8 months....pretty much goes without saying.

As a gamer looking at performance, without a doubt the 8350 looks like a solid hitter now compared to the start of this year.

[Mooshi]

Any decent modern CPU, honestly. When it comes to gaming, who gives a shit? It's only when you do something a bit more constructive like rendering scenes or something that your CPU will actually matter. For gaming performance, Get the best CPU at your budget and pair it with a nice GPU.

[Demonking]

I5 4670K