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2 minutes ago, js_theking said:

I need help with my new build. I currently already own a GTX 1080, and I was pretty much disappointed by the performance of my card in Mirror's Edge Catalyst. With everything maxed at 2k res out I was averaging 80 FPS while Doom was rock steady at 144MHz.

Quick question: what was your monitor again?

2 minutes ago, js_theking said:

So my first question is, would adding let's say a GTX 1060 dedicated for PhysX really help?

Strong card + weak Physx car = Weak performance. Unfortunately, a slower PhysX card will actually slow you down rather than improve things.

3 minutes ago, js_theking said:

If I add said card, how much PCI-E lanes would I really need? I'm planning to add an Intel 750 pro to my build.

Ah... you'll be fine. Don't worry about it.

4 minutes ago, js_theking said:

Is 48 lanes even possible? I've seen the i7-6850k running up to 40 lanes. Would that bottleneck my 2 GPUs + Intel SSD setup? 

No. And no.

Hello everyone, it's my first post on this forum! I know this is the CPU sub forum but I have a couple of questions that touches to a lot of subjects. 

 

I need help with my new build. I currently already own a GTX 1080, and I was pretty much disappointed by the performance of my card in Mirror's Edge Catalyst. With everything maxed at 2k res out I was averaging 80 FPS while Doom was rock steady at 144MHz.

 

So my first question is, would adding let's say a GTX 1060 dedicated for PhysX really help? 

 

If I add said card, how much PCI-E lanes would I really need? I'm planning to add an Intel 750 pro to my build.

 

Is 48 lanes even possible? I've seen the i7-6850k running up to 40 lanes. Would that bottleneck my 2 GPUs + Intel SSD setup? 

 

Thanks in advance

 

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I highly doubt that adding another card like the 1060 would help for PhysX. The system would change how many PCI lanes there are for each card though if you have the 2 GPUs and Intel SSD. 

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2 minutes ago, js_theking said:

I need help with my new build. I currently already own a GTX 1080, and I was pretty much disappointed by the performance of my card in Mirror's Edge Catalyst. With everything maxed at 2k res out I was averaging 80 FPS while Doom was rock steady at 144MHz.

Quick question: what was your monitor again?

2 minutes ago, js_theking said:

So my first question is, would adding let's say a GTX 1060 dedicated for PhysX really help?

Strong card + weak Physx car = Weak performance. Unfortunately, a slower PhysX card will actually slow you down rather than improve things.

3 minutes ago, js_theking said:

If I add said card, how much PCI-E lanes would I really need? I'm planning to add an Intel 750 pro to my build.

Ah... you'll be fine. Don't worry about it.

4 minutes ago, js_theking said:

Is 48 lanes even possible? I've seen the i7-6850k running up to 40 lanes. Would that bottleneck my 2 GPUs + Intel SSD setup? 

No. And no.

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I don't think a PhysX Card would help, but a graphics card with an 8x PCIE Connection shouldn't bottleneck any modern graphics card
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Not in catalyst it doesnt have physx

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Nope everything is fine the 1080 is just a side step card. Getting another card for PhysX will do literally nothing. Like 8 games have it and it is implemented horribly.

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1 minute ago, SamStrecker said:

Nope everything is fine the 1080 is just a side step card. Getting another card for PhysX will do literally nothing. Like 8 games have it and it is implemented horribly.

The one game I saw it done right in was cryostasis

Old game but the physics in it were beyond anything I had seen before and it would bring any current mid level card to its knees

Thats that. If you need to get in touch chances are you can find someone that knows me that can get in touch.

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5 minutes ago, js_theking said:

Hello everyone, it's my first post on this forum! I know this is the CPU sub forum but I have a couple of questions that touches to a lot of subjects. 

 

I need help with my new build. I currently already own a GTX 1080, and I was pretty much disappointed by the performance of my card in Mirror's Edge Catalyst. With everything maxed at 2k res out I was averaging 80 FPS while Doom was rock steady at 144MHz.

 

So my first question is, would adding let's say a GTX 1060 dedicated for PhysX really help? 

 

If I add said card, how much PCI-E lanes would I really need? I'm planning to add an Intel 750 pro to my build.

 

Is 48 lanes even possible? I've seen the i7-6850k running up to 40 lanes. Would that bottleneck my 2 GPUs + Intel SSD setup? 

 

Thanks in advance

 

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Seb

Get another 1080 and SLI bridge, The performance almost doubles. Where as PhysX does almost nothing and never really works well.

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Just now, thekeemo said:

The one game I saw it done right in was cryostasis

Old game but the physics in it were beyond anything I had seen before and it would bring any current mid level card to its knees

Yeah but devs are lazy. We could have awesome games with Vulkan plus PhysX

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50 minutes ago, Imakuni said:

Quick question: what was your monitor again?

Strong card + weak Physx car = Weak performance. Unfortunately, a slower PhysX card will actually slow you down rather than improve things.

Ah... you'll be fine. Don't worry about it.

No. And no.

Thanks for the answer, my monitor is an Asus PG279Q.

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1 hour ago, js_theking said:

Not sure why I double posted but I need to lay off the Scotch. 

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A card dedicated to PhysX would actually NOT need a lot o PCIE lanes.  You could get away with 1x lane even.  PhysX is really just math.  I understand that this is counter-intuitive to how you guys think about most PC building, bandwidth = speed = frames, but that doesn't really work here.  Most GPUs need bandwidth because they are moving a tedious amount of scene data like textures and such.  PhysX and such is more akin to doing other calculation only jobs like cryptocurrency hashing and similar tasks.  While there's a lot of calculation being done, the data sets are actually very small and not demanding on bandwidth at all.  When GPU crypto was the thing, no one cared about PCI-e lane count, they put a GPU on every single slot to get the most out of a motherboard.  GPUs doing that kind of work have been found to take no hit to performance even running on 1x slots.  They just DON'T need the bandwidth.

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