Thanks newgg.... you piece of sh**

[Donut417]

1 hour ago, ZaTrox said:

I don't understand how can it be wrong though... i mean a computer will do all of the calculation so it will be right and if that was a huge problem then how come i can see a product on one site with a vat from UK and for example PL when i change a currency ? can't that be implemented in the US system ? and what kind of benefit does it give other than screw people of their money (benefit to a business cause they earn more money)?

No they cant implement that in the US system. First of all Sales tax is a state by state basis. So it can be a different tax rate for each state. Then add in the fact, not all items might have sales tax attached. For example unprepared food in Michigan is not taxed, only prepared food is, such as McDonalds and BK. On top of that states like Tennessee has a weekend once a year where you get buy shit online tax free. Pretty bad ass if you ask me.

 

Then each state has standards for how businesses can operate. Newegg is only required to follow the laws of states in which they have a physical presence in. Which is why Newegg doesn't collect Michigan State tax. The state of Michigan has put the burden on the people living in Michigan to report items bought online. Most dont report shit. The state has a part on our tax return that will take like $12 dollars out for online purchases. This way you can have a semi clear conscience. 

 

Just one question I have: Did you contact Newegg support about this? I mean, some businesses love hearing their customers thoughts. Maybe you could get them to change the fact they dont show VAT.

 

 

 

 

[ZaTrox]

6 hours ago, KuJoe said:

Taxes in the US are not a flat tax across the board like VAT. Different products have different taxes and some products do not have any taxes at all. The taxes can vary by city and county within the same state so a Walmart in one city might charge a 10% tax while a Walmart a few miles away might charge a 6% tax. VAT on the other hand is a country-wide tax so no matter where you go in the UK the tax will always be the same right? Implementing a system with a universal tax is much easier than implementing one with hundreds of different taxes. Sure, it would be easier if the federal government here in the US made a universal tax but they cannot legally prevent local governments (city/county/state) from also taxing products since they have to pay for stuff also. The benefit consumers get is they can see exactly how much of their payment went towards taxes which allows people to write it off at the end of the year depending on the product/service. The benefit to businesses is when they go to pay their taxes at the end of the year they know exactly how much they owe down to the penny and have an itemized record of the taxes their clients spent. The business does not earn more money from this, 100% of the taxes they receive goes to somebody else nor does it cost consumers anything more since the same tax would be there regardless if it's included in the price tag or not. A good example of why it's better to not have the taxes included in the price tag is when you're purchasing a big ticket item like a car or house where you can negotiate the price, when you negotiate the price you're negotiating for the pre-tax price.

 

Say a car is $10,000 (for simplicity sake), if the price tag said $10,000 plus 7% tax the total cost would be $10,700. Now say you negotiated the price down $2,000, the new price tag would be $8,000 plus 7% tax making the total cost $8,560. Now if the price tag showed the $10,700 to begin with and you negotiated the price down $2,000 the new total cost would be $8,700. Sure, we're only talking $140 but add another zero and you just saved $1,400.

 

It's about legality and not marketing though. While browsing around looking for laws regarding this I did find something interesting in regards to marketing though. Imagine a company having to record a commercial for every city/county/state in the country. That would be a nightmare. Without including taxes in the price they just need to record a single commercial for a product with the retail price of the item excluding taxes and that commercial and be legally aired country-wide without violating any laws in regards to false advertising.

 

EDIT: Also, I'd like to say as a business owner in the US, the tax system can definitely use an overhaul. It's complex to the point I get annoyed I have to pay somebody else to handle my taxes and hope and pray they don't make a mistake that can cost me my business.

ok that was a great explanation all that i can say is that i pity you for all of the inconvenience you have with this system but its not like ours have no problems so its ok.

As for my second statement plz ignore it, now that i look at it it was rly stupid to write it, it might be because it was late and i was rly tired and i didn't know what i was talking about

[KuJoe]

3 hours ago, ZaTrox said:

ok that was a great explanation all that i can say is that i pity you for all of the inconvenience you have with this system but its not like ours have no problems so its ok.

As for my second statement plz ignore it, now that i look at it it was rly stupid to write it, it might be because it was late and i was rly tired and i didn't know what i was talking about

I completely understand, I wasn't able to get my point across correctly until I got some sleep myself.

[Duskie]

I bought my CPU from newegg, was still cheaper than the ones in the UK lol

[ZaTrox]

3 hours ago, Flitter said:

I bought my CPU from newegg, was still cheaper than the ones in the UK lol

Good for you

[ShadowCaptain]

21 hours ago, Flitter said:

I bought my CPU from newegg, was still cheaper than the ones in the UK lol

You do have to be careful ordering from abroad sometimes especially as most people forget to add VAT, customs fees etc

[NL_Bumblebee]

thanks for wasting my time

[ZaTrox]

12 hours ago, NL_Bumblebee said:

thanks for wasting my time

You didn't wrote a single thing in this conversation (apart from this statement) so i have no idea how do we waste your time

[Donut417]

55 minutes ago, ZaTrox said:

You didn't wrote a single thing in this conversation (apart from this statement) so i have no idea how do we waste your time

Id have to agree with you. I kinda wondered the same thing. 

[BlueChinchillaEatingDorito]

3 hours ago, ZaTrox said:

You didn't wrote a single thing in this conversation (apart from this statement) so i have no idea how do we waste your time

2 hours ago, Donut417 said:

Id have to agree with you. I kinda wondered the same thing. 

Perhaps the poor soul actually read through the entire thread.

[PlayCrackTheSky]

A lot of the posts here don't convey the complexity of the actual sales tax system in the United States.  It's goes well beyond having tax differences for each state.  Granted...each state has a set state tax rate, but then counties and cities within that state set there own local tax rate in most places.  The combination of the two is what you pay depending on where the physical purchase is made.  It gets a little more complicated when you make a purchase online.  The tax then has to be based on shipping/billing address and not your location when you make the purchase.  

 

That is why prices aren't shown with sales tax included.  Websites would have to require everyone to create an account with their shipping/billing address listed and customers would be required to login before they could see a price on any website.  That really limits advertisement.  It's the same way with sales papers, television/radio, or most ads of any kind.  Mass advertisement just gives a base price and then depending on where you live/where you make the physical purchase...then the tax is figured.

 

 

State and Local Sales Tax Rates as of January 1, 2016
State	State Tax Rate	Rank	Avg. Local Tax Rate (a)	Combined Rate	Combined Rank	Max. Local Tax Rate
Alabama	4.00%	38	4.97%	8.97%	4	7.00%
Alaska	none	46	1.78%	1.78%	46	7.50%
Arizona	5.60%	28	2.65%	8.25%	11	5.30%
Arkansas	6.50%	9	2.80%	9.30%	2	5.13%
California (b)	7.50%	1	0.98%	8.48%	10	2.50%
Colorado	2.90%	45	4.62%	7.52%	15	8.00%
Connecticut	6.35%	12	none	6.35%	31
Delaware	none	46	none	none	47
Florida	6.00%	16	0.66%	6.66%	30	1.50%
Georgia	4.00%	38	3.01%	7.01%	21	4.00%
Hawaii (c)	4.00%	38	0.35%	4.35%	45	0.50%
Idaho	6.00%	16	0.03%	6.03%	36	3.00%
Illinois	6.25%	13	2.39%	8.64%	7	4.75%
Indiana	7.00%	2	none	7.00%	22
Iowa	6.00%	16	0.79%	6.79%	28	1.00%
Kansas	6.50%	9	2.10%	8.60%	8	4.00%
Kentucky	6.00%	16	none	6.00%	37
Louisiana	4.00%	38	5.00%	9.00%	3	7.00%
Maine	5.50%	29	none	5.50%	42
Maryland	6.00%	16	none	6.00%	37
Massachusetts	6.25%	13	none	6.25%	33
Michigan	6.00%	16	none	6.00%	37
Minnesota	6.875%	7	0.39%	7.27%	17	1.50%
Mississippi	7.00%	2	0.07%	7.07%	20	1.00%
Missouri	4.225%	37	3.64%	7.86%	14	5.00%
Montana (d)	none	46	none	none	47
Nebraska	5.50%	29	1.37%	6.87%	26	2.00%
Nevada	6.85%	8	1.13%	7.98%	13	1.30%
New Hampshire	none	46	none	none	47
New Jersey (e)	7.00%	2	-0.03%	6.97%	24	3.50%
New Mexico (c)	5.125%	32	2.38%	7.51%	16	3.56%
New York	4.00%	38	4.49%	8.49%	9	4.88%
North Carolina	4.75%	35	2.15%	6.90%	25	2.75%
North Dakota	5.00%	33	1.82%	6.82%	27	3.50%
Ohio	5.75%	27	1.39%	7.14%	19	2.25%
Oklahoma	4.50%	36	4.32%	8.82%	6	6.50%
Oregon	none	46	none	none	47
Pennsylvania	6.00%	16	0.34%	6.34%	32	2.00%
Rhode Island	7.00%	2	none	7.00%	22
South Carolina	6.00%	16	1.22%	7.22%	18	2.50%
South Dakota (c)	4.00%	38	1.84%	5.84%	40	2.00%
Tennessee	7.00%	2	2.46%	9.46%	1	5.00%
Texas	6.25%	13	1.92%	8.17%	12	2.00%
Utah (b)	5.95%	26	0.74%	6.69%	29	2.10%
Vermont	6.00%	16	0.17%	6.17%	35	1.00%
Virginia (b)	5.30%	31	0.33%	5.63%	41	0.70%
Washington	6.50%	9	2.39%	8.89%	5	3.10%
West Virginia	6.00%	16	0.20%	6.20%	34	1.00%
Wisconsin	5.00%	33	0.41%	5.41%	44	1.75%
Wyoming	4.00%	38	1.42%	5.42%	43	2.00%
D.C.	5.75%	(27)	none	5.75%	(41)
(a) City, county, and municipal rates vary. These rates are weighted by population to compute an average local tax rate. (b) Three states levy mandatory, statewide local add-on sales taxes: California (1%), Utah (1.25%), Virginia (1%). We include these in their state sales taxes. (c) The sales taxes in Hawaii, New Mexico, and South Dakota have broad bases that include many services. (d) Due to data limitations, this table does not include sales taxes in local resort areas in Montana. (e) Salem County is not subject to the statewide sales tax rate and collects a local rate of 3.5%. New Jersey's average local score is represented as a negative. Note: D.C.'s ranks do not affect states' ranks, but the figures in parentheses indicate where it would rank if

[ZaTrox]

5 hours ago, PlayCrackTheSky said:

A lot of the posts here don't convey the complexity of the actual sales tax system in the United States.  It's goes well beyond having tax differences for each state.  Granted...each state has a set state tax rate, but then counties and cities within that state set there own local tax rate in most places.  The combination of the two is what you pay depending on where the physical purchase is made.  It get's a little more complicated when you make a purchase online.  The tax then has to be based on shipping/billing address and not your location when you make the purchase.  

 

That is why prices aren't shown with sales tax included.  Websites would have to require everyone to create an account with there shipping/billing address listed and customers would be required to login before they could see a price on any website.  That really limits advertisement.  It's the same way with sales papers or ads of any kind.  Mass advertisement just gives a base price and then depending on where you live/where you make the physical purchase...then the tax is figured.

 

 

State and Local Sales Tax Rates as of January 1, 2016
State	State Tax Rate	Rank	Avg. Local Tax Rate (a)	Combined Rate	Combined Rank	Max. Local Tax Rate
Alabama	4.00%	38	4.97%	8.97%	4	7.00%
Alaska	none	46	1.78%	1.78%	46	7.50%
Arizona	5.60%	28	2.65%	8.25%	11	5.30%
Arkansas	6.50%	9	2.80%	9.30%	2	5.13%
California (b)	7.50%	1	0.98%	8.48%	10	2.50%
Colorado	2.90%	45	4.62%	7.52%	15	8.00%
Connecticut	6.35%	12	none	6.35%	31
Delaware	none	46	none	none	47
Florida	6.00%	16	0.66%	6.66%	30	1.50%
Georgia	4.00%	38	3.01%	7.01%	21	4.00%
Hawaii (c)	4.00%	38	0.35%	4.35%	45	0.50%
Idaho	6.00%	16	0.03%	6.03%	36	3.00%
Illinois	6.25%	13	2.39%	8.64%	7	4.75%
Indiana	7.00%	2	none	7.00%	22
Iowa	6.00%	16	0.79%	6.79%	28	1.00%
Kansas	6.50%	9	2.10%	8.60%	8	4.00%
Kentucky	6.00%	16	none	6.00%	37
Louisiana	4.00%	38	5.00%	9.00%	3	7.00%
Maine	5.50%	29	none	5.50%	42
Maryland	6.00%	16	none	6.00%	37
Massachusetts	6.25%	13	none	6.25%	33
Michigan	6.00%	16	none	6.00%	37
Minnesota	6.875%	7	0.39%	7.27%	17	1.50%
Mississippi	7.00%	2	0.07%	7.07%	20	1.00%
Missouri	4.225%	37	3.64%	7.86%	14	5.00%
Montana (d)	none	46	none	none	47
Nebraska	5.50%	29	1.37%	6.87%	26	2.00%
Nevada	6.85%	8	1.13%	7.98%	13	1.30%
New Hampshire	none	46	none	none	47
New Jersey (e)	7.00%	2	-0.03%	6.97%	24	3.50%
New Mexico (c)	5.125%	32	2.38%	7.51%	16	3.56%
New York	4.00%	38	4.49%	8.49%	9	4.88%
North Carolina	4.75%	35	2.15%	6.90%	25	2.75%
North Dakota	5.00%	33	1.82%	6.82%	27	3.50%
Ohio	5.75%	27	1.39%	7.14%	19	2.25%
Oklahoma	4.50%	36	4.32%	8.82%	6	6.50%
Oregon	none	46	none	none	47
Pennsylvania	6.00%	16	0.34%	6.34%	32	2.00%
Rhode Island	7.00%	2	none	7.00%	22
South Carolina	6.00%	16	1.22%	7.22%	18	2.50%
South Dakota (c)	4.00%	38	1.84%	5.84%	40	2.00%
Tennessee	7.00%	2	2.46%	9.46%	1	5.00%
Texas	6.25%	13	1.92%	8.17%	12	2.00%
Utah (b)	5.95%	26	0.74%	6.69%	29	2.10%
Vermont	6.00%	16	0.17%	6.17%	35	1.00%
Virginia (b)	5.30%	31	0.33%	5.63%	41	0.70%
Washington	6.50%	9	2.39%	8.89%	5	3.10%
West Virginia	6.00%	16	0.20%	6.20%	34	1.00%
Wisconsin	5.00%	33	0.41%	5.41%	44	1.75%
Wyoming	4.00%	38	1.42%	5.42%	43	2.00%
D.C.	5.75%	(27)	none	5.75%	(41)
(a) City, county, and municipal rates vary. These rates are weighted by population to compute an average local tax rate. (b) Three states levy mandatory, statewide local add-on sales taxes: California (1%), Utah (1.25%), Virginia (1%). We include these in their state sales taxes. (c) The sales taxes in Hawaii, New Mexico, and South Dakota have broad bases that include many services. (d) Due to data limitations, this table does not include sales taxes in local resort areas in Montana. (e) Salem County is not subject to the statewide sales tax rate and collects a local rate of 3.5%. New Jersey's average local score is represented as a negative. Note: D.C.'s ranks do not affect states' ranks, but the figures in parentheses indicate where it would rank if

wow.... thanks for your effort

[Quincy15]

On 23/07/2016 at 3:39 PM, ZaTrox said:

Yeah but that is kind of disappointing that a company is doing this in order to get more customers from outside of USA 

I dont think that it is. Its an American company and they dont show VAT or sales tax until after you click to pay. You thought you were being sneaky and getting a super deal and not paying tax and just crying that it did not work out

[ZaTrox]

2 hours ago, Quincy15 said:

I dont think that it is. Its an American company and they dont show VAT or sales tax until after you click to pay. You thought you were being sneaky and getting a super deal and not paying tax and just crying that it did not work out

plz read a whole topic -.- and i DIDN'T know that they didn't add taxes because in uk its illegal as stated above (somewhere)