Do you think Apple has ever

[themaniac]

Do you think Apple has ever thought about making their own cpu base/architecture/whatever x86 and ARM are called so they dont have to really on ARM to develop the chips.

[Enderman]

What do you think the A9 is?

[themaniac]

Just now, Enderman said:

What do you think the A9 is?

but isn't it still based on ARM

[AresKrieger]

No, that would require inventing something

[Enderman]

Just now, themaniac said:

but isn't it still based on ARM

But it's made by apple... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_A9

Why would they want to develop a completely new instruction set that makes absolutely everything stop working and need to be recoded?

[Mira Yurizaki]

1 minute ago, Enderman said:

But it's made by apple... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_A9

Why would they want to develop a completely new instruction set that makes absolutely everything stop working and need to be recoded?

But OP specifically asked what if they'd make their own architecture, not what if they made their own chips.

 

ARM doesn't really supply anyone with chips, they're a fabless company. They just license processor IPs.

[BlueChinchillaEatingDorito]

5 minutes ago, themaniac said:

Do you think Apple has ever thought about making their own cpu base/architecture/whatever x86 and ARM are called so they dont have to really on ARM to develop the chips.

Remember when there were rumors of them dumping Intel and developing their own CPUs for their computers? They were probably reminded of the good old PowerPC days and then said oh hells no.

[themaniac]

4 minutes ago, AresKrieger said:

No, that would require inventing something

but in the long run they wouldn't have to pay royalties to ARM

 

2 minutes ago, Enderman said:

But it's made by apple... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_A9

Why would they want to develop a completely new instruction set that makes absolutely everything stop working and need to be recoded?

so they dont have to pay royalties to ARM and its not like they sell any part to anyone and its not the practicality that i'm asking just if you think they've ever thought of it

 

Just now, BlueChinchillaEatingDorito said:

Remember when there were rumors of them dumping Intel and developing their own CPUs for their computers? They were probably reminded of the good old PowerPC days and then said oh hells no.

but powerpc is IBM(well i'm pretty sure) not apple so we dont know if they could've been successful

[BlueChinchillaEatingDorito]

Just now, themaniac said:

but in the long run they wouldn't have to pay royalties to ARM

 

so they dont have to pay royalties to ARM and its not like they sell any part to anyone and its not the practicality that i'm asking just if you think they've ever thought of it

 

but powerpc is IBM(well i'm pretty sure) not apple so we dont know if they could've been successful

The PowerPC was a RISC Instruction set Architecture created by Apple, IBM and Motorola. By the time Intel brought Hyper-Threading and Dual Cores to the market, the PowerPC was still stuck with a slower single core. Which probably explains Apple's jump to being solely Intel based. (There were MacBook Air prototypes based on an AMD platform but never came to market as far as I know.) 

[themaniac]

Just now, BlueChinchillaEatingDorito said:

The PowerPC was a RISC Instruction set Architecture created by Apple, IBM and Motorola. By the time Intel brought Hyper-Threading and Dual Cores to the market, the PowerPC was still stuck with a slower single core. Which probably explains Apple's jump to being solely Intel based. (There were MacBook Air prototypes based on an AMD platform but never came to market as far as I know.) 

oh, the more you know, but apple does make a lot money(iirc they make around 40-50bn a year in profit) and they have got a lot more experience in creating cpus and again they got a lot of money so they could try to get whats his name that helped work on zen and many other previous amd cpu architectures, which could help, and its not like anyone else really can except a few, none of which can really compete with major companies like intel

[rockon5622]

Would they invent a new instruction set. Prob not. It would mean all apps would need to be remade and new compilers made ect... Standards are good to have.