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Alright, so I've had my PC for about 3 months now.  It's great, but I think it could be better. I was wondering if upgrading from Haswell to Skylake is worth it? I'm considering upgrading from my MSI Z97 Gaming 5 1150 and i5 4690k to an i7 6700k.  I  mainly want to better architecture, the i7 Hyper Threading (which I know I can get in a 4790k) and then, mainly, the option of DDR4 Ram.  I really want to get my hands on some of that GSkill 4500MHz Ram.  Now heres my problem: I'm 15 so I don't have much money.  If I sell my CPU and MOBO I'll be like $100-200 off of this goal (not including the ram.  I'm scared to find out how much that'll set me back).  So, anyone know if this would be worth it in a gaming rig? (I'm going to be getting an RX 480 on launch day btw, if that changes anything).

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Not worth it at this point in time. You are gaming at 1080p i assume. The faster ram will not make a difference at all in gaming (unless you have an APU) its generally quantity. Overall stay with what you got, its marginal differences.

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4 minutes ago, LLCooLM495 said:

Alright, so I've had my PC for about 3 months now.  It's great, but I think it could be better. I was wondering if upgrading from Haswell to Skylake is worth it? I'm considering upgrading from my MSI Z97 Gaming 5 1150 and i5 4690k to an i7 6700k.  I  mainly want to better architecture, the i7 Hyper Threading (which I know I can get in a 4790k) and then, mainly, the option of DDR4 Ram.  I really want to get my hands on some of that GSkill 4500MHz Ram.  Now heres my problem: I'm 15 so I don't have much money.  If I sell my CPU and MOBO I'll be like $100-200 off of this goal (not including the ram.  I'm scared to find out how much that'll set me back).  So, anyone know if this would be worth it in a gaming rig? (I'm going to be getting an RX 480 on launch day btw, if that changes anything).

Have you over clocked your 4690K at all? Honestly there won't be enough improvement to justify spending the money so I'd wait until Kabby Lake or Cannon Lake come out.

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Just now, imreloadin said:

Have you over clocked your 4690K at all

yep, 4.3 GHz with a Hyper 212 EVO

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Unless you are really pushing the limits of current technology (like mentioned above) there's no good reason to upgrade.  The cost would just be too much to justify for the performance gain (if there even is one).

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1 minute ago, LLCooLM495 said:

yep, 4.3 GHz with a Hyper 212 EVO

Maybe get a better cooler and see if you can push it higher, then wait like others have said.

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Just now, imreloadin said:

Maybe get a better cooler and see if you can push it higher, then wait like others have said.

yep, plan on upgrading to an H60i or H80i when I can

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1 minute ago, LLCooLM495 said:

yep, plan on upgrading to an H60i or H80i when I can

I'd go full out and get an H110i GTX as that's the best all in one water cooler on the market right now. The H60i won't give you much better results than the 212 Evo.

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1 minute ago, imreloadin said:

I'd go full out and get an H110i GTX as that's the best all in one water cooler on the market right now. The H60i won't give you much better results than the 212 Evo.

Will that fit in a mid tower with two top 120mm fan mounts? Or could I mount it with the front two 140mm?

 

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1 minute ago, LLCooLM495 said:

Will that fit in a mid tower with two top 120mm fan mounts?

 

What is your case?

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1 minute ago, imreloadin said:

What is your case?

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Not worth it in the slightest. Rather than investing into skylake, you'd be better off investing into things like a better GPU than the 480, a monitor upgrade, better peripherals, better cooler...

 

No point in Skylake for you. Stick to your current system.

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1 minute ago, Imakuni said:

monitor upgrade, better peripherals

im getting ne of these: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-29-ips-lcd-hd-219-ultrawide-monitor/4922000.p?id=bb4922000&skuId=4922000&ref=212&loc=1&ksid=cf104b95-bc17-427e-bcec-758eef7e4ce7&ksprof_id=8&ksaffcode=pg28431&ksdevice=m so ill be fine on monitors.  As for peripherals, I like my headphones and mouse, but I would like to get a K70 RGB.  and the 480 will be fine for me :P

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I +1 the not worth it. Save up for an upgrade later down the track that will yield you much more of a performance increase. Save them dollars for the Steam sale =D

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3 minutes ago, val0r0x said:

Save them dollars for the Steam sale =D

This sounds like a good idea :D

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waste of money

if you can only afford a 480 why would you spend money on stuff that would get you less of an improvement than a better graphics card?

 

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The RAM will give you ZERO real world performance. You hear me? ZERO. NOTHING. SO STOP FANBOYING OVER THE 4500MHZ IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING.

As for the CPU, unless you're doing serious video production you wont see any performance there either. CPU's are stupid. Take that money and buy a better GPU c'mon it's 2016. And DON'T FORGET ABOUT THE USED GPU MARKET. Serious bang for your buck there.

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I'm still going strong on my i5-4460 with no intention of upgrading it anytime soon, and I'll be getting an RX 480 most likely as well. Unless you're doing really CPU intensive tasks and you need the performance gains such as hyper threading now, I would wait. Also I wouldn't opt for that RAM as the real world performance of the extra speed is basically nothing, you'd be throwing away money IMO.

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Turning your cooler to face the right direction might do some good if you can.

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21 minutes ago, NowThatsDamp said:

And DON'T FORGET ABOUT THE USED GPU MARKET. Serious bang for your buck there.

I haven't bought any GPU new ever mate :P Bought two 760s for$100 from my friend's drug addict brother who wanted money to buy more weed, and I got my MSI 960 refurbished

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21 minutes ago, Enderman said:

if you can only afford a 480 why would you spend money on stuff that would get you less of an improvement than a better graphics card?

 

I can afford a 480 and the 21:9 screen ATM.  I was thinking of upgrading way later in the future

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2 minutes ago, LLCooLM495 said:

I haven't bought any GPU new ever mate :P Bought two 760s from my friend's drug addict brother who wanted money to buy more weed, and I got my MSI 960 refurbished

Attaboy. I'm proud of you.

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1 minute ago, NowThatsDamp said:

Attaboy. I'm proud of you.

Yay :D 

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4 minutes ago, LLCooLM495 said:

I can afford a 480 and the 21:9 screen ATM.  I was thinking of upgrading way later in the future

well "way later in the future" there will be much better GPUs and motherboard than the 6700k

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