5820k vs 6800k ..?

[Xiauj]

Hi,

What is the better option to go for as far as performance goes:

 

• To have a 5820k and then Overclock it for better performance.
• Or to have a 6800k, keep it normal (NOT-OVERCLOCKED) and then overclock it later on (Possible..?) when some positive results appear online.

 

Keep in mind, I'll be buying/building my new PC within the next few months leading up towards October or maybe November of 2016. and hope to keep it for around 3-5 years as a long-term-PC if that makes sense, lol  

In addition to that, the price difference isn't that much between the 6800k & 5820k.

6800k on Newegg > £315 MAXIMUM

5820k on Newegg > £280.00 MAXIMUM

 

I'd prefer the new Broadwell-E CPU but don't know when or IF it can be overclocked for better performance in the long term and that's why I need some opinions!

 

Thanks ~ Xiauj

[Nena Trinity]

6800K i heard is a terrible OCer go for 5820K if you plan to OC...

[Xiauj]

1 minute ago, Nena360 said:

6800K i heard is a terrible OCer go for 5820K if you plan to OC...

Terrible? Really?!  

Hmm ok then.

Spoiler

*Whistles* 

_{*Goes to change PCPartPicker list*}

 

Do you think the 5820k is a good CPU to keep for the next 3-5 years? I have several intended purposes and don't wanna kill it instantly lol  

And also, do you think there will be a new CPU that is the same or a little bit better than the 5820k in 3-5 years time?

[Nena Trinity]

1 minute ago, Xiauj said:

Terrible? Really?!  

Hmm ok then.

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*Whistles* 

_{*Goes to change PCPartPicker list*}

 

Do you think the 5820k is a good CPU to keep for the next 3-5 years? I have several intended purposes and don't wanna kill it instantly lol  

And also, do you think there will be a new CPU that is the same or a little bit better than the 5820k in 3-5 years time?

The only thing that could be worth it is Zen... (but nobody knows)

[Xiauj]

1 minute ago, Nena360 said:

The only thing that could be worth it is Zen... (but nobody knows)

True, I forgot about that.

I have an AMD-CPU-Based PC at the moment which I've had for 3 years now and that's why I'm wanting to upgrade.

 

Am hoping to get this new PC in like I said October or November ish time haha

[TidaLWaveZ]

Yup, I'd choose the 5820k over the 6800k any day of the week, especially considering the price. Haswell has been better than Broadwell from the get go and that hasn't changed with the refresh IMO.

[Windows7ge]

It depends on your application. Most video games don't utilize more than 4 cores which fits the mainstream platform while video editing, music editing, 3D rendering (unless you're using GPU acceleration), can utilize more than four. Plus much higher memory bandwidth with quad channel which again doesn't do much for video games but benefits programs that swamp large quantities of data in and out of RAM. So LGA1151 is more focused towards gamers while LGA2011-V3 is more focused towards workstation applications. It's easier to OC less cores simultaneously so I'd go with LGA1151 in that respect and in cost effectiveness even if the 5820K is cheaper you pay more for the Motherboard & RAM. In the end the choice is yours.

[Xiauj]

15 minutes ago, TidaLWaveZ said:

Yup, I'd choose the 5820k over the 6800k any day of the week, especially considering the price. Haswell has been better than Broadwell from the get go and that hasn't changed with the refresh IMO.

Hmm ok, cool!

Thank you!

 

 

12 minutes ago, Windows7ge said:

It depends on your application. Most video games don't utilize more than 4 cores which fits the mainstream platform while video editing, music editing, 3D rendering (unless you're using GPU acceleration), can utilize more than four. Plus much higher memory bandwidth with quad channel which again doesn't do much for video games but benefits programs that swamp large quantities of data in and out of RAM. So LGA1151 is more focused towards gamers while LGA2011-V3 is more focused towards workstation applications. It's easier to OC less cores simultaneously so I'd go with LGA1151 in that respect and in cost effectiveness even if the 5820K is cheaper you pay more for the Motherboard & RAM. In the end the choice is yours.

Well... I have several intended purposes like I was saying to Nena in a previous comment and those purposes are:

1. Gaming (HIGH/ULTRA)
2. Video/Photo Editing _{(Using Adobe's software(s))}
3. Development (Coding, Game development maybe, App development maybe and more)
4. 3D Model rendering within CINEMA 4D ONLY
   • In addition to this is 3D Model animation rendering within CINEMA 4D.
5. And perhaps some audio production as well.

 

I wouldn't be doing all of these at the same time obviously but yeah, these are my purposes.

[TidaLWaveZ]

 

21 minutes ago, Windows7ge said:

It depends on your application. Most video games don't utilize more than 4 cores which fits the mainstream platform while video editing, music editing, 3D rendering (unless you're using GPU acceleration), can utilize more than four. Plus much higher memory bandwidth with quad channel which again doesn't do much for video games but benefits programs that swamp large quantities of data in and out of RAM. So LGA1151 is more focused towards gamers while LGA2011-V3 is more focused towards workstation applications. It's easier to OC less cores simultaneously so I'd go with LGA1151 in that respect and in cost effectiveness even if the 5820K is cheaper you pay more for the Motherboard & RAM. In the end the choice is yours.

I think there may be some confusion here, the 6800k is actually also a 2011-3 CPU.  So both the 5820k and 6800k run on x99 chipset.

 

1151's top contender is the 6700k. Everything said above reigns true when applied to 1151 and the 6700k.

 

10 minutes ago, Xiauj said:

Hmm ok, cool!

Thank you!

 

 

Well... I have several intended purposes like I was saying to Nena in a previous comment and those purposes are:

1. Gaming (HIGH/ULTRA)
2. Video/Photo Editing _{(Using Adobe's software(s))}
3. Development (Coding, Game development maybe, App development maybe and more)
4. 3D Model rendering within CINEMA 4D ONLY
   • In addition to this is 3D Model animation rendering within CINEMA 4D.
5. And perhaps some audio production as well.

 

np

[Windows7ge]

4 minutes ago, TidaLWaveZ said:

 

I think there may be some confusion here, the 6800k is actually also a 2011-3 CPU.  So both the 5820k and 6800k run on x99 chipset.

 

 

np

Wait a minute...S***!!! You're right, Ugh, I'm confused with Intel's naming scheme I though it was just one step above the i7 6700K which is socket 1151.

[Xiauj]

So 5820k OVERCLOCKED it is then guys?

 

 

If so, I better get changing my PCPartPicker list! haha

[PianoPlayer88Key]

 

3 minutes ago, Xiauj said:

Well... I have several intended purposes like I was saying to Nena in a previous comment and those purposes are:

1. Gaming (HIGH/ULTRA)
2. Video/Photo Editing _{(Using Adobe's software(s))}
3. Development (Coding, Game development maybe, App development maybe and more)
4. 3D Model rendering within CINEMA 4D ONLY
   • In addition to this is 3D Model animation rendering within CINEMA 4D.
5. And perhaps some audio production as well.

 

I wouldn't be doing all of these at the same time obviously but yeah, these are my purposes.

 

Interesting, some of those would be my own tasks as well, with some modifications.

 

1. Gaming - I'd start with high/ultra, with an emphasis on resolution over fps (for example 4k, 60p over 1440p, 144Hz).  As my GPU/system ages, I'd be willing to turn them down as low as 480p, 20fps, low.
2. Video/Photo editing - Would prefer to use free/open-source software, but would consider lowering the tier of GPU I'd get to get something like Premier Elements or similar-cost software.  (Won't go into detail in this post, that'd be for my own thread when I'm ready to write and post it.)  I'm getting into 4K video, and my desktop's 4790K or laptop's 970M are deathly slow.  (I'm not in the market for a new CPU anytime soon, unless it's a Kaby-Lake or Cannonlake i7-K LGA1151 for the laptop, which currently has an i3.)
3. Coding - I haven't done like *any* of this in like 20-25 years or so.  Someday I might want to get back into it a little.
4. 3D Model rendering - there's some things I'd like to learn how to do, for example some things from the Bible, like the temple as described in the book of Ezekiel.  I think I'd want to use a game engine for it, like CryEngine 3, Unreal Engine 4 (or whatever the newest is), etc.  Not sure what software I'd use, except preferably FOSS if possible.  (If I bought software, it'd come out of my GPU budget, which as is right now would just barely buy an aftermarket GTX 1070 and no software.)
5. Definitely would do audio production.

One major difference with me, is I most definitely WOULD be doing all those things simultaneously, along with web browsing, running VMs, etc.  (For example, I'd guess my browser is currently using about 12-15 GB, relatively light usage for me.  I really need to get a good adblock.  I may make another post on that sometime, idk when.)

 

I'm not in the market for an LGA2011-3 system anytime soon, but if I was, because of my memory usage (I frequently hit the 4790K's 32GB limit with less going - I hope some adblock would help slim the browser pages down), I'd probably want Broadwell-E, as Haswell-E only supports 64GB.  (Maybe I'd be better off with something like a Xeon instead of an i7 if I built an enthusiast-grade system in like 7 years?)

 

[Windows7ge]

12 minutes ago, Xiauj said:

Hmm ok, cool!

Thank you!

 

 

Well... I have several intended purposes like I was saying to Nena in a previous comment and those purposes are:

1. Gaming (HIGH/ULTRA)
2. Video/Photo Editing _{(Using Adobe's software(s))}
3. Development (Coding, Game development maybe, App development maybe and more)
4. 3D Model rendering within CINEMA 4D ONLY
   • In addition to this is 3D Model animation rendering within CINEMA 4D.
5. And perhaps some audio production as well.

 

I wouldn't be doing all of these at the same time obviously but yeah, these are my purposes.

I take back what I said before TidaLWaveZ clarified something for me. I had the 1151 socket 6000 series confused with the NEW 2011-V3 6000 series. I'm kind of a gambler. I'd go with Broadwell-E. Different architecture but same number of cores at a slightly higher base clock. Cheaper. Should be able to OC similarly and more future proofed. Only issue I see is with any motherboard will the stock BIOS support it.

[PianoPlayer88Key]

5 minutes ago, Windows7ge said:

Wait a minute...S***!!! You're right, Ugh, I'm confused with Intel's naming scheme I though it was just one step above the i7 6700K which is socket 1151.

Wow, I'm with you on that one there - their confusing naming scheme.   (I did know it was LGA2011-3 and not LGA1151.)
 

Something that puzzles me with their numbering, is which family the products belong to.  The 6000-series are Skylake on mainstream, but Broadwell on -E.  5000 is Broadwell on mainstream, but Haswell on -E.  That and the fact that they can't all share the same socket, also across multiple generations, upsets me too.  I like to keep the same mobo until PCIe, SATA/NVMe, DDR, I/O (USB, etc), all have their generations incremented, even skip a generation before I buy a new mobo.

[Windows7ge]

2 minutes ago, PianoPlayer88Key said:

Wow, I'm with you on that one there - their confusing naming scheme.   (I did know it was LGA2011-3 and not LGA1151.)
 

Something that puzzles me with their numbering, is which family the products belong to.  The 6000-series are Skylake on mainstream, but Broadwell on -E.  5000 is Broadwell on mainstream, but Haswell on -E.  That and the fact that they can't all share the same socket, also across multiple generations, upsets me too.  I like to keep the same mobo until PCIe, SATA/NVMe, DDR, I/O (USB, etc), all have their generations incremented, even skip a generation before I buy a new mobo.

I admire AMD's backwards compatibility. I think socket AM3+ supports AM3, AM2+, and MAYBE some AM2 chips but you wanna go backwards with Intel? NOPE!...just nope...

[TidaLWaveZ]

14 minutes ago, Windows7ge said:

Wait a minute...S***!!! You're right, Ugh, I'm confused with Intel's naming scheme I though it was just one step above the i7 6700K which is socket 1151.

 

They have Architecture names (broadwell, haswell, skylake, etc), generations, and series.  I guess it's about as simple as they can make the names (4 numbers), but still confusing in situations like this where skylake and broadwell e are a one digit difference picking up right where the last architecture left off.

[TidaLWaveZ]

13 minutes ago, Xiauj said:

So 5820k OVERCLOCKED it is then guys?

 

 

If so, I better get changing my PCPartPicker list! haha

Absolutely.  You shouldn't have a problem getting around 4.0ghz or above.

[PianoPlayer88Key]

1 minute ago, Windows7ge said:

I admire AMD's backwards compatibility. I think socket AM3+ supports AM3, AM2+, and MAYBE some AM2 chips but you wanna go backwards with Intel? NOPE!...just nope...

Well, I really was thinking of forward compatibility, that I'd want.   What use would it be for me to get a particular motherboard, then like 5 years later put an OLDER CPU in it?

For example, get a Nehalem or Westmere-based board (whichever were the first-generation i7's, or first that supported DDR3 or PCIe 3.0 or USB 3.0 or whatever), and put a mid-range CPU on it.

Then, after learning that Kaby-Lake would be the last CPU supported on that socket (yes I know there were like 4 sockets since then), I'd get a fairly decent i7-K, then hang onto the board another several years.

THEN, when a NEW socket (skipping the one introduced with Cannonlake - remember, I'm talking theoretically, not the way it actually is) is introduced that supports DDR6, PCI-Express 6.0, NVMe 3.0 (I would have said SATA gen6 or SAS gen5), USB 6.0, etc (I may be a generation off, but important thing is skip a generation on each), THEN I'd buy a new motherboard.

 

Any part for which I'd have to uninstall a bunch of things to remove that one part (like the motherboard, case, maybe PSU, etc), I would really prefer to keep a LONG time, like at least 7-10 years, or longer if I could.
I could also rant on the tiny so-called improvements per generation, but without going into more detail, I'll just say I wish the low-end SKUs (1x Atom CPU, 1x x10 GPU, etc) of the succeeding generation (of CPU and GPU, not motherboard socket or PCIe revision) would have a single-thread cinebench and firestrike score that completely crushes the previous-generation's flagship (4x Xeon E7 CPU, 4x Tesla GxX00 GPU), multi-thread cb and ice storm.   (That assumes the same price point and TDP for where they are in the product stack.)

 

... But ....

 

[Windows7ge]

13 minutes ago, PianoPlayer88Key said:

Well, I really was thinking of forward compatibility, that I'd want.   What use would it be for me to get a particular motherboard, then like 5 years later put an OLDER CPU in it?

For example, get a Nehalem or Westmere-based board (whichever were the first-generation i7's, or first that supported DDR3 or PCIe 3.0 or USB 3.0 or whatever), and put a mid-range CPU on it.

Then, after learning that Kaby-Lake would be the last CPU supported on that socket (yes I know there were like 4 sockets since then), I'd get a fairly decent i7-K, then hang onto the board another several years.

THEN, when a NEW socket (skipping the one introduced with Cannonlake - remember, I'm talking theoretically, not the way it actually is) is introduced that supports DDR6, PCI-Express 6.0, NVMe 3.0 (I would have said SATA gen6 or SAS gen5), USB 6.0, etc (I may be a generation off, but important thing is skip a generation on each), THEN I'd buy a new motherboard.

 

Any part for which I'd have to uninstall a bunch of things to remove that one part (like the motherboard, case, maybe PSU, etc), I would really prefer to keep a LONG time, like at least 7-10 years, or longer if I could.
I could also rant on the tiny so-called improvements per generation, but without going into more detail, I'll just say I wish the low-end SKUs (1x Atom CPU, 1x x10 GPU, etc) of the succeeding generation (of CPU and GPU, not motherboard socket or PCIe revision) would have a single-thread cinebench and firestrike score that completely crushes the previous-generation's flagship (4x Xeon E7 CPU, 4x Tesla GxX00 GPU), multi-thread cb and ice storm.   (That assumes the same price point and TDP for where they are in the product stack.)

 

... But ....

 

If AMD or Intel wanted to do that they could but it wouldn't be as profitable for them. Don't forget, from their perspective it goes "How can we deliver the latest hardware, with the latest features, with the latest form factors and application uses AND maximize out profits. Let's lock down the consumers so they have to buy brand new platforms to use the newer stuff." There are +12 core Xeons for Socket 2011 but Intel created the 2011-V3 platform if you want faster RAM and CPUs with OC support and more cores. They could have made CPU's with OC support for LGA2011 above 6 cores but they didn't because they want to make as much money as possible and they wouldn't continuing an old socket like 2011. It's all a money game and we're strung along for the ride with no way off.

[PianoPlayer88Key]

1 hour ago, Windows7ge said:

If AMD or Intel wanted to do that they could but it wouldn't be as profitable for them. Don't forget, from their perspective it goes "How can we deliver the latest hardware, with the latest features, with the latest form factors and application uses AND maximize out profits. Let's lock down the consumers so they have to buy brand new platforms to use the newer stuff." There are +12 core Xeons for Socket 2011 but Intel created the 2011-V3 platform if you want faster RAM and CPUs with OC support and more cores. They could have made CPU's with OC support for LGA2011 above 6 cores but they didn't because they want to make as much money as possible and they wouldn't continuing an old socket like 2011. It's all a money game and we're strung along for the ride with no way off.

Yeah, I hear ya.

 

So, I usually try to get the best I can reasonably afford, without going much if at all above the price/performance sweet spot, then keep it as long as I can.

 

For example, early 2015 I built a computer with an i7-4790K (Haswell, LGA1150), 32GB DDR3 RAM, 12 TB of HDD space, 256GB SSD, iGPU (planning dGPU soon), 760W Corsair PSU, etc.  I wanted to wait for Skylake and DDR4, but it was just taking too long to be released.  (I had been using my dad's 2008 Dell D830 laptop, with a Core2Duo T7250, 2GB DDR2, 500GB HDD, but was getting fed up with how slow & limited it was.  He's STILL using it though!)

 

Before that, I built a system in early 2008 around an Athlon 64 X2 4000+, 2GB RAM (later 4GB), a TB or 2 of HDD space, iGPU (ATI X1250, never got a dGPU).  It died around early 2012.  If I'd had the money, I would have built a Sandy-Bridge system then.

 

I probably spent about 3 to 3.5 times more on my 2015 system than my 2008 system.  Even so, I don't expect to get the same dollars-per-year longevity on the current system as I did with the old one and my dad's laptop.

 

When it is time to build a new main system, though, I DO want a significant performance improvement - for example, the new generation's Celeron should be faster than my 4790K, along with other upgrades.  Using cpubenchmark.com as a reference, my 4790K is about 10x or so faster than the Athlon 64 I previously had, and the Core 2 Duo my dad still has.  (Even the 4790K's single-thread score I think is more than double the other CPUs' multi-thread scores.)

 

I saw a post somewhere (forgot where, but it wasn't here) where someone said they'd upgrade for a 10% improvement.  I'm not one of those guys, nor am I the type who's like "OMG the 4790K just launched, I better replace my 4770K!".

I think my wait-long-between-upgrades is influenced by my family life growing up.  My dad got a 286-10 in 1989, then a 486-120 in 1995, (Apparently he wasn't an early adopter), an Athlon 1.4GHz in 2002 (I think there was a Pentium I or II or something somewhere in there, courtesy of my brother), then the aforementioned 2008 computers, and I got the one in 2015.

 

I also got a Clevo P750DM-G laptop right before Christmas 2015, and put an i3-6100 in it, along with a GTX 970M, 8GB RAM, 250GB Crucial MX200 SSD & 2TB Seagate HDD.  As needed or when it's available / on sale, I'd add another HDD, an NVMe SSD, more RAM, etc.  The GeForce 10 series is too soon for me to upgrade the GPU, I'd more likely look at the 11 or 12 series, maybe 13.
As for the CPU, I want to put in the last i7-K that is supported on LGA1151 and Z170.  I hope it's Cannonlake, but if it ends up being Kaby Lake I'd settle for that.  I won't buy it right after it's launched, I'd wait until the next generation (that is confirmed incompatible) is launched.

 

I wonder what Intel (and AMD) would do if more people hung onto their computers longer, until there was a significant performance leap?  I've heard somewhere that some people actually are doing just that, and PC sales are going down ... but I also hear it blamed on people trending more toward mobile devices, not full-blown desktops and laptops.  Speaking of laptops ... it would have been WAY out of my price range, but I learned (while researching my laptop, and ultimately getting the one I got) that there actually is a laptop (or was, it's probably discontinued now) that used an LGA2011 socket!

 

Speaking of mobile ... how long before we have smartphones that have the same performance as an enthusiast desktop?  For example, if a phone like that came out this year, it'd get the same CineBench and FireStrike Ultra scores as a quad Xeon E7-8890 v4 and quad GTX 1080 Ti's.    (Or, will we have to settle for the equivalent of a 6950X and a single 1080 non-Ti?)

[Xiauj]

UPDATE:

@Windows7ge, @PianoPlayer88Key, @TidaLWaveZ, @Nena360

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Ok so, This is what I originally was and still am going to go for (At the moment):

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/zGbD3F <- Before it was a 6800k _{(LGA2011-3 Socket)} CPU but now... it's a 5820k _{(LGA2011-3 Socket)} CPU_.

I will hopefully begin buying and then assembling this build towards Oct/Nov/Dec of 2016 (I hope! Once I save up my budget lol).

 

Also, I might consider a NVIDIA GTX 1070/1080 (When it's on a sale perhaps?) instead of the soon-to-be released RX 480 by AMD.

 

 

Just a curious thought which had popped into my mind a while ago when I was afk but, What's a good budget for a 5820k around the I dunno... £500/600-£1,000 GBP price range?

 

Or a better way of wording it is, could someone perhaps do a PCPartPicker link? Because I've been told/given advice suggesting that £1,200-£1,400 GBP is apparently " overkill " which I find hard to believe for my intended purposes _{(As listed in some previous comments, please refer to them before reading onwards!)} and that I could get a system like this with nearly similar specs for £500-£600 which I find hard to believe... I'm sorry but like, the CPU is like half of the budget blown, the mobo nearly completes it and then the CPU cooler would top it off.

 

_{Then again though, He had said £500-£600 because I started to talk about my current AMD-Rig (He wanted to know the specs) and suggested that I strip parts from it and use for the new/this-soon-to-be build and just to clarify, NO parts will be stripped/salvaged from this AMD-Rig  !!}

_{I will be 'trying' to upgrade it later on in the year (Or next year ........ ) because of a couple issues haha but that's a different story.}

 

 

 

Back to the story for this build, I would prefer to get all of the components on say a Black Friday sale that happens in November(?) instead of buying components like 1-3 months AFTER I'VE BUILT the PC. An example of this is if I were to get 16GB RAM and the other components like the CPU, Mobo, Cooler etc.. there and then on that Black Friday sale/day, I wouldn't want to install another 16GB of RAM in those 1-3 months because I'm a very pedantic person when it comes to that type of stuff because of something messing up  !!

[mhamrin]

On 6/15/2016 at 11:44 AM, Xiauj said:

UPDATE:

@Windows7ge, @PianoPlayer88Key, @TidaLWaveZ, @Nena360

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Ok so, This is what I originally was and still am going to go for (At the moment):

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/zGbD3F <- Before it was a 6800k _{(LGA2011-3 Socket)} CPU but now... it's a 5820k _{(LGA2011-3 Socket)} CPU_.

I will hopefully begin buying and then assembling this build towards Oct/Nov/Dec of 2016 (I hope! Once I save up my budget lol).

 

Also, I might consider a NVIDIA GTX 1070/1080 (When it's on a sale perhaps?) instead of the soon-to-be released RX 480 by AMD.

 

 

Just a curious thought which had popped into my mind a while ago when I was afk but, What's a good budget for a 5820k around the I dunno... £500/600-£1,000 GBP price range?

 

Or a better way of wording it is, could someone perhaps do a PCPartPicker link? Because I've been told/given advice suggesting that £1,200-£1,400 GBP is apparently " overkill " which I find hard to believe for my intended purposes _{(As listed in some previous comments, please refer to them before reading onwards!)} and that I could get a system like this with nearly similar specs for £500-£600 which I find hard to believe... I'm sorry but like, the CPU is like half of the budget blown, the mobo nearly completes it and then the CPU cooler would top it off.

 

_{Then again though, He had said £500-£600 because I started to talk about my current AMD-Rig (He wanted to know the specs) and suggested that I strip parts from it and use for the new/this-soon-to-be build and just to clarify, NO parts will be stripped/salvaged from this AMD-Rig  !!}

_{I will be 'trying' to upgrade it later on in the year (Or next year ........ ) because of a couple issues haha but that's a different story.}

 

 

 

Back to the story for this build, I would prefer to get all of the components on say a Black Friday sale that happens in November(?) instead of buying components like 1-3 months AFTER I'VE BUILT the PC. An example of this is if I were to get 16GB RAM and the other components like the CPU, Mobo, Cooler etc.. there and then on that Black Friday sale/day, I wouldn't want to install another 16GB of RAM in those 1-3 months because I'm a very pedantic person when it comes to that type of stuff because of something messing up  !!

You'd definitely get some great deals on black Friday but there is no way of telling what will go on sale. Here's what I did. I researched the ever-livin-daylights out of the components to know exactly what i wanted. I have  some guru's here that are my go to for info. For instance I go to sinteza for mobo info and Harrynowl is the ram guru. etc....there are many others.

 

Next I use the pc part picker sheet with the graph that show best price history (up to 2 years). Then I set price alerts for what is acceptable to me. Some things have great deals that come in cycles. You can see best price last black Friday for instance. Some things just have a downward price trend- like ram. I'd buy this last.

 

Grab stuff little by little when it hits your price target. My price targets have been hitting faster than i thought. Also, if you have a Micro Center near you check the local store for prices. These don't always show up in pcpart picker. For instance. Best price on 5820K (btw this is the cpu i want) pcpart = $369.   Micro Center (brick & morter) store is $319. On top of that, bundle it with a mobo and get another $30 off. 

 

Let me know if you want more info on my components i've chosen. Remember i'm not a guru...I'm a friend of gurus! (That'd be a damn good signature line)