Are we likely to see any big CPU jumps in the near future?

[gonvres]

Currently rocking an Ivy Bridge i5. I however have been doing a lot of encoding work of late, particularly with h265 and the encoding times have been a bit too long for me, even with medium quality 1080P video you're looking at roughly 3x the video length in cross encoding. I've considered upgrading to a 6700K as I know the extra performance would drastically reduce the time, but are we likely to see any Skylake 6 core processors in the near future? It just seems quad core on the top end i7 isn't brilliant for processes that can utilize more. 

[Rune]

In IPC, no. In the enthusiast X99 platform we are going to see processors with more cores, though. The 6800k looks quite promising. Seeing as you are on ivy bridge, you'd have to upgrade your motherboard regardless. Would consider looking into socket 2011-3.

[DioOmicida]

I mean a $5000 22 core intel CPU is coming out soon.
I don't see them adding a 6 core to the line of skylakes. But who knows.

[ValkyrieStar]

3 minutes ago, gonvres said:

Currently rocking an Ivy Bridge i5. I however have been doing a lot of encoding work of late, particularly with h265 and the encoding times have been a bit too long for me, even with medium quality 1080P video you're looking at roughly 3x the video length in cross encoding. I've considered upgrading to a 6700K as I know the extra performance would drastically reduce the time, but are we likely to see any Skylake 6 core processors in the near future? It just seems quad core on the top end i7 isn't brilliant for processes that can utilize more. 

Haswell-E. Going from a 4790K to a 5820K was a 50% increase.

 

There will be broadwell E shortly with 6-10 core chips.

 

 

I have a 3770K in my work pc, and it is not even close to a 5820K.

 

Skylake E is along way off. Maybe another 12 months we dont know.

[Moonzy]

maaaaybe we'll see 6c12t on kabylake, just maaaybe

 

just get x99 if you want moar coars

[Tech Deals]

4 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

maaaaybe we'll see 6c12t on kabylake, just maaaybe

 

just get x99 if you want moar coars

If Zen is all it is cracked up to be, we might see a 6c on Kaby...

 

If we do, I might then finally upgrade...  if not, I'm waiting until at least Cannonlake.

[gonvres]

7 minutes ago, ValkyrieStar said:

Haswell-E. Going from a 4790K to a 5820K was a 50% increase.

 

There will be broadwell E shortly with 6-10 core chips.

 

 

I have a 3770K in my work pc, and it is not even close to a 5820K.

 

Skylake E is along way off. Maybe another 12 months we dont know.

A 5820K would be faster than a 4790K on multi core workloads, right? Their price seems very competitive even. 

[ValkyrieStar]

4 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

maaaaybe we'll see 6c12t on kabylake, just maaaybe

 

just get x99 if you want moar coars

Ive read reports that Kaby is going to be a refreshed set of chips, minimal IPC improvements.

 

Also read other reports that there might be Cannonlake chips with more than 4 cores.

 

Time will tell. 

 

Currently X99 and 6/8 cores is the best you can buy for rendering. Lots of ram can be helpful for other things too.

[gonvres]

9 minutes ago, DioOmicida said:

I mean a $5000 22 core intel CPU is coming out soon.
I don't see them adding a 6 core to the line of skylakes. But who knows.

Yeah that seems a bit excessive for home user. Its a shame they're not doing 6 core skylakes. What exactly is the huge benefit of the i7 over the i5 in that instance? They're both quad cores. I always assumed the i7 cpus primarily had more cores.

[Moonzy]

2 minutes ago, gonvres said:

Yeah that seems a bit excessive for home user. Its a shame they're not doing 6 core skylakes. What exactly is the huge benefit of the i7 over the i5 in that instance? They're both quad cores. I always assumed the i7 cpus primarily had more cores.

the i7 have hyperthreading, which will use the cores more effectively

about 1.3~1.5x the performance most of the times

[airdeano]

commercially, there is no need in a more core SKU in the non-enthusiast platforms. even if zen bolts 8-12 cores, intel won't move to that (since history showed us otherwise).

strong IPC is well enough for most if not all work loads. only until you get into professional workstation workloads with their answer of xeon. wishing is well enough, but for profitability the consumers are already screaming "whoa! how much higher price do you have to go?" for 4core CPUs.

[Tech Deals]

12 minutes ago, gonvres said:

Currently rocking an Ivy Bridge i5. I however have been doing a lot of encoding work of late, particularly with h265 and the encoding times have been a bit too long for me, even with medium quality 1080P video you're looking at roughly 3x the video length in cross encoding. I've considered upgrading to a 6700K as I know the extra performance would drastically reduce the time, but are we likely to see any Skylake 6 core processors in the near future? It just seems quad core on the top end i7 isn't brilliant for processes that can utilize more. 

X99 and a 6 or 8 core CPU might be worth your time...

 

Broadwell-E is coming out this summer, you might consider that...

[gonvres]

6 minutes ago, airdeano said:

commercially, there is no need in a more core SKU in the non-enthusiast platforms. even if zen bolts 8-12 cores, intel won't move to that (since history showed us otherwise).

strong IPC is well enough for most if not all work loads. only until you get into professional workstation workloads with their answer of xeon. wishing is well enough, but for profitability the consumers are already screaming "whoa! how much higher price do you have to go?" for 4core CPUs.

It is true. I must admit, even with gaming I've never had any issue with an ivy bridge i5 until I got into video encoding. But having to wait for hours for medium length clips to cross encode to workable file sizes really is a pest. If you could cut the time in half it would save insane amounts of time, which is a shame why theyre not going 6 core.

 

8 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

the i7 have hyperthreading, which will use the cores more effectively

about 1.3~1.5x the performance most of the times

ahh yes hyperthreading. So 'effective' 8 cores on the quad core CPUs. Thats actually a very decent benefit. Maybe a 6600K with a good high end air cooler and mild overclock will be perfect. They're not even that expensive considering the drastic productivity benefits.

[Tech Deals]

1 minute ago, gonvres said:

It is true. I must admit, even with gaming I've never had any issue with an ivy bridge i5 until I got into video encoding. But having to wait for hours for medium length clips to cross encode to workable file sizes really is a pest. If you could cut the time in half it would save insane amounts of time, which is a shame why theyre not going 6 core.

Have you considered simply buying a second computer to do your encodes?  That way your main computer isn't busy.

 

Years ago, I "upgraded" from an i7-920 to a i5-2500k, not because I needed the speed, but because I needed a render machine, and the i7-920 became my render computer.

 

Today I have a i7-6700k doing my render work while my i7-4770k remains in my personal computer, not to be upgraded for years!

 

The i7-6700k replaced that i7-920, talk about an upgrade!

[gonvres]

2 minutes ago, Tech Deals said:

Have you considered simply buying a second computer to do your encodes?  That way your main computer isn't busy.

 

Years ago, I "upgraded" from an i7-920 to a i5-2500k, not because I needed the speed, but because I needed a render machine, and the i7-920 became my render computer.

 

Today I have a i7-6700k doing my render work while my i7-4770k remains in my personal computer, not to be upgraded for years!

 

The i7-6700k replaced that i7-920, talk about an upgrade!

 

That is a good idea. I'm sure I will find a use for the 3450 anyway, you can seemingly never have too many computers. I already have a secondary Macbook Pro workstation but I get impatient. You feel very boxed in for doing multi window workloads on a 13 inch monitor. 

[EUD]

24 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

the i7 have hyperthreading, which will use the cores more effectively

about 1.3~1.5x the performance most of the times

i bet people would like real cores than virtual more

 

like 6c/6t for same cash no iGPU

 

but then again Zen is coming and we might get that + HT

 

 

[DXMember]

isn't that the reason we have HEDT and Xeons?

[Las_Killar]

If you really want to go overkill you could wait and go for the new MBs from ASUS "ROG STRIX X99 Gaming, X99-Deluxe II, X99 A-II and X99 E" and the new Broadwell-E Core i7-6950X 10 cores with 20 threads... 

[Lordmac14]

2 hours ago, DioOmicida said:

I mean a $5000 22 core intel CPU is coming out soon.
I don't see them adding a 6 core to the line of skylakes. But who knows.

Linus did a video a few days ago...... they are AMAZING

 

 

 

Also Kaby Lake is basically an 'optimisation' or 'revision' of Skylake - no new architecture, no new process node like tick-tock