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2 minutes ago, super_skank said:

I think the Polaris will be somewhere between a 390x and fury pro...for around $300....If so and you are in the market for a new graphics card and don't want to pay the Nvidia Tax this card is going to be very compelling.

I expect the polaris 11 to be around 100-180 and the polaris 10 to be around 200-300 dollars.

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16 minutes ago, ivan134 said:

He probably has me blacklisted then since he never responds to me.

I think that's a safe bet. Blacklists really shouldn't be a thing on a discussion forum. If people are not adult enough to ignore a post, then they're not adult enough to be on a forum.

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5 hours ago, djdwosk97 said:

Where is it performing like SLI 980Tis? 

check my previous posts, I linked a bench run

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3 hours ago, awesomeness10120 said:

 @zMeul, how can Polaris 10 perform near the R9 380x level and yet have 512 more SPs? Not to mention the new GCN and process node. Please explain why you think it will be slower OBJECTIVELY.

if memory serves, it has quite fewer ROPs

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18 hours ago, zMeul said:

Fury X on average uses ~220W on average: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-r9-fury-x,4196-7.html

And that's a bad thing?

That's actually really fucking good, all things considered.

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14 hours ago, zMeul said:

you are comparing overclocked cards and quite possibly OCed CPUs with a reference GTX1080 xD

 

if you look at the individual benchmarks, some of those were't even ran at 1440p, they're mislabeled

this for example: http://www.ashesofthesingularity.com/metaverse#/personas/1a42e7c3-efef-4369-9ab5-08fe5ca55868/match-details/e69f4a1d-9278-4f36-96d5-d50462a30d27

was ran @ 2544x1053

 

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and yes, I'm comparing with Polaris since GTX1080 is not the flagship, you're forgetting that; as I said, there will probably be two more cards above the GTX1080

a "reference" card overclocked by 1/3 gpu clock and 15% memory clock.

 

 

7 hours ago, zMeul said:

less talk less about % and more about raw numbers, the difference is ~6-7 FPS for a card that already can average above 60

so 6-7 fps closer to that sweet 144hz?

10 hours ago, FakezZ said:

Especially if Compute performance is still lagging behind AMD

That seems already basically confirmed as far as I'm concerned. 8.2 Tflops is about equivalent to my 7990 (dual 7970) from 2013. PS: The Fury X is a 8.5 TFLOPS card and it was generally speaking better at compute then the 980 TI winning 5 compute benchmarks out of 9 against the 980 TI http://www.anandtech.com/show/9390/the-amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-review/24

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7 hours ago, zMeul said:

less talk less about % and more about raw numbers, the difference is ~6-7 FPS for a card that already can average above 60

so 6-7 fps closer to that sweet 144hz?

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1 hour ago, zMeul said:

if memory serves, it has quite fewer ROPs

OK... The GTX 1080 has the same number of ROPs as the GTX 980 and yet it is touted as double the speed. Please elaborate.

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21 hours ago, Tech_Dreamer said:

shit! :| so t'was just another amped promo

THERE WE GO!!! People need to listen. Amazing advertising on Nvidia but I feel AMD might pull a win on this one. Also 980tis are really cheap like $350 on ebay new so I would pick some up before people realize the 1080 sucks 

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7 minutes ago, awesomeness10120 said:

OK... The GTX 1080 has the same number of ROPs as the GTX 980 and yet it is touted as double the speed. Please elaborate.

2X speed in VR. 8gb GDDR5X, 16nm, and a new architecture probably focusing on VR

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8 hours ago, Citadelen said:

If the GP100 we've seen isn't the full model then it doesn't matter how good it is, Nvidia won't be able to make enough, and the few they do make will sell for stupendous amounts of money.

Once they get their yield up they should be good to go. But physics is a mean little bugger

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38 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

2X speed in VR. 8gb GDDR5X, 16nm, and a new architecture probably focusing on VR

Yes, but Zmeul is saying that Polaris 10 is slow JUST BECAUSE of ROPs and TMUs. He's saying it'll be R9 380x level and I'm absolutely confused by his logic.

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3 minutes ago, awesomeness10120 said:

Yes, but Zmeul is saying that Polaris 10 is slow JUST BECAUSE of ROPs and TMUs. He's saying it'll be R9 380x level and I'm absolutely confused by his logic.

You must not be used to his antics. :D

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8 minutes ago, awesomeness10120 said:

Yes, but Zmeul is saying that Polaris 10 is slow JUST BECAUSE of ROPs and TMUs. He's saying it'll be R9 380x level and I'm absolutely confused by his logic.

No. If it is a refresh yes but I don't think we will see as many refreshed this time

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Just now, SamStrecker said:

No. If it is a refresh yes but I don't think we will see as many refreshed this time

He's saying that this new 14nm GPU that will bring VR to the mainstream will be the performance equivalent to an R9 380x. NO.

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2 minutes ago, awesomeness10120 said:

He's saying that this new 14nm GPU that will bring VR to the mainstream will be the performance equivalent to an R9 380x. NO.

No. But I do believe they are focusing on TDP way more then we think. 80W is crazy

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1 minute ago, SamStrecker said:

No. But I do believe they are focusing on TDP way more then we think. 80W is crazy

AMD has the more efficient architecture. I want to see a card powered by the same slot.

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the FuryX has scores up to 5300 at 1440p on crazy. not looking good

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I wonder what kind of drivers these are runing on...

 

I'm gonna be staying away from Leaked benchmarks for now, I'll check back in a week when people have the cards.

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Until nVidia can get their head out of their ass and implement HARDWARE based Async, AMD is gonna take them to the woodshed. Heck, it might be a good thing as nVidia has gotten a little too comfortable up top.

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2 hours ago, RagnarokDel said:

so 6-7 fps closer to that sweet 144hz?

if your card doesn't already give you 144FPS, the 6-7FPS async compute gives you will not be enough

you'd be better off with a different AA method or just turning AA off; or tweaking other quality setting

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1 hour ago, awesomeness10120 said:

He's saying that this new 14nm GPU that will bring VR to the mainstream will be the performance equivalent to an R9 380x. NO.

hmm .. oh yeah!

you need to remember that the puny GPU in the PS4 is already capable of VR, with SONY's "Morpheus" 

is it so inconceivable that AMD would implement a similar VR implementation in their Polaris 10 to what nVidia has shown, by giving extra VR perf? I totally see it

 

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there are other things too:

  • AMD already classified Polaris 10 as mainstream; and you need to look at AMD's earlier offerings to understand what they mean by mainstream
  • Tailor has stated that AMD will not compete at the level of GTX1080 nor the 1070; and AMD goal with Polaris 10 is to create affordable VR cards
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I think I've seen this trend before.....

 

NV releases cut down card as flagship to pressure the competition. When the other guy releases their beast. NV counters with the full expensive version and then keeps the slightly cut down cheaper version to be the final nail on the other guys coffin.

 

Standard market tactic. Make the desperate ones upgrade then release the biggest and baddest to make the big boys bite. Then give the "poor man's" version to the public to conquer the market. 

 

Well this is assuming the competition has nothing big up their sleeve and that NV plays their cards right.

 

But if I got my history right, well...........you guys should know what happens right? 

 

As for me waiting for the next one or maybe something with DP 1.4?

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My 290x get 37fps. So that's less than 30% compare to 47fps on 1080.

 

What happen to 1080=980 SLI?

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