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I'm confused, so I have to ask / Call it out.

 

It seems that some videos that Digital Foundry does, prove that RAM speed does INDEED matter, in fact a lot!

 

 

So I'm still VERY confused by some of Linus' videos stating that 1333MHz ram can get you basically the same performance as 2100MHz Just as an example.


This video proves the difference. And some other videos show the same too.

Can someone who knows the knowledge behind this enlighten me?

 

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https://www.akkadia.org/drepper/cpumemory.pdf

Section 2.2.5.

 

RAM IS SLOOOOOWWW

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2 minutes ago, Julian2000nl said:

Your right, RAM speeds does matter BUT it does not have a big impact on general performance.

(also i love your build in your Signature)

the  640TB hdd? haha :D Someone pointed out the error, wasn't bothered to fix it.

It seems like in that video, just switching the ram from 1600 to 2100+ you get the same performance increase, as increasing the clockspeed from stock to 4.6GHz?
That is a significant increase in performance? :o

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the ram size doesnt matter as much as the memory frequency (from 8gb up), as far as i understood the sweet spot now is 8gb at 2133MHz

Source: Check out this 2 videos

 

 

 

 

PS: i would love that linus would do more stuff that actual matters for gaming performance instead of the CPU HEATED PIZZAS

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Atlant said:

the ram size doesnt matter as much as the memory frequency (from 8gb up), as far as i understood the sweet spot now is 8gb at 2133MHz

Source: Check out this 2 videos

 

 

 

 

PS: i would love that linus would do more stuff that actual matters for gaming performance instead of the CPU HEATED PIZZAS

 

 

Thank you!! So basically DDR3 is just getting behind. So std. DDR4 2133 is the sweetspot with no bottlenecks.

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10 minutes ago, Julian2000nl said:

No i mean it's AMD. And im a hardcore #TeamRed fanboy XD.

lol Ty. I got the parts separately second-hand cheap. So it was obvious to go this way. 
Even though AMD's cpu are killing me, when you look at performance gains just by using the average intel xD

 

For for a budget pc this is totally fine. Still plays most games at nice fps.- not worth upgrading yet :D

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Some people, like @MageTank have proven Linus and his video wrong, as RAM does matter in some cases. As I said, some cases, like Tomb Raider 2013 gets around 5 FPS if I'm not wrong, while Fallout 4 gets 20% FPS increase. It can matter while it may not. 

There is a thread on this forum about that, I'm on phone otherwise I would dig it up.

 

Edit: Here you go

 

 

Edited by Bouzoo

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10 minutes ago, Atlant said:

PS: i would love that linus would do more stuff that actual matters for gaming performance instead of the CPU HEATED PIZZAS

His channel isn't named Linusgamingtips it's called LinusTechTips for a reason. He does tech related stuff; funny, informative, enthusiast and beginner. He has a very broad audience and another problem for him is that about 30% of his viewers aren't subscribed which means they just search for something and click his videos. This increases the difficulty to satisfy his whole viewing audience. Think a little before typing, I rather enjoyed the pizza heating video, I thought it was fun. 

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1 minute ago, Julian2000nl said:

Just wait for Zen and the "Intel is better" period will be over :)

I hope so. If Zen is good, and cheaper than intel at the same time. Ofc I will go with that. Whatever gives the best price/performance without any bottlenecks for future GPU upgrades :D

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15 minutes ago, Nex Cube said:

In this case could I overclock my Kingston HyperX Fury 1866 MHz DDR3 to 2133 MHz and would it even be worth it?

No clue, wouldn't recommend overclocking ram though. I've read some horror stories about that xD

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16 minutes ago, Atlant said:

have u seen how many dislikes the video have? thats mostly the vote of us, his audience thats watched every new video he uploads and not of ppl that search heating pizzas on a cpu in youtube search

Lol it was just a fun episode, because LUKE.


Don't hate it, it was fun haha. They DO also do informative videos, which is important. So I don't mind some fun videos here and there as well :D

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The thing here is not to try to generalise too much. Some things respond to ram speed more than others. The only safe answer would be to test applications/games of interest and see if they benefit from faster ram or not. Also consider that bottlenecks elsewhere might limit before you reach the ram limit.

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