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Ok. Pretty good. Here are my reccomendations. I have made all changes with 'future-proofness' in mind, no matter how much I hate that term :)  

  • Switch out the 5820k. You do not need it. Look at a i7 6700k or 6700 or maybe even a 6600k. People with sandy bridge i5s are still going strong today so a 6600k will last a while. 
  • Unless you are doing content creation or somthing similar just get a dual stick 8gb ram kit. In the future if you need more just upgrade. You will have two more slots empty! 
  • If you really want to go for long lasting preformace then maybe wait or pascal and Polaris. If you don't want to wait try and shell out for a 980ti or a r9 fury. 
  • You don't need a 950 SSD. Just get one large SSD like a 850 evo 500gb and a big fast HDD like a 1tb WD black. 
  • Wierd choice for the cooler. I like the fact that you went air cooling. In my experience closed loop coolers have caused problems over the long term. Look at a nhd15 or a nhu14. They offer similar or better preformace than a closed loop cooler. you do end up going for water over air look at a enthusiast grade solution like an EkWb predator or a custom loop in a box type thing from Alphacool or ek. The thermal compound that comes with Noctua coolers is fine. You don't need an aftermarket solution
  • Maybe look at a 1440p 27" 60htz monitor. Unless you are pretty competitive 60 fps is fine and 1440p and a larger size will make you happier for longer, taking away the need to upgrade 
  • Don't get an optical drive. End of discussion 
  • That is an intense keyboard! Do you really need it? If you play a lot of MOBA or MMO games then the macros might be good. If you don't care go for a k70 or an Azio MGK1 if you want to save some money. 
  • I always reccomend the Steelseries rival 300 over anything else. I reckon it is the best fps mouse available. 

Long answer i know know but I hope you found my advice helpful and constructive. Live long and prosper my friend :) 

Hello Techs,

 

I nearly finished choosing the parts for my new pc, and i'd like to hear your thoughts on it.

 

But first, about my wishes and budget.

 

The goal is to make a gaming pc, that's relatively future proof (4-5 years), where my built can rely on getting a lot of fps in shooter games,  but yet spit out some good quality when playing more graphical games.


My budget is 2000 USD for everything including monitor, keyboard, mouse etc. - this can however be changed +/- maybe 500 USD, but i would very much prefer it to be within the 2k range.

 

my favorite games is currently:

 

Rust, CS:GO, League of legends, occasionally wow.

 

I'm currently playing on a laptop with only a HDD, and that really kills me in rust, where loading times is crucial, hence the Samsung 950 SSD.

 

My last wish is to make my build as silent as possible, as I'll be playing close the bedroom.

 

Please leave any suggestions/feedback on my build and tell me if i made any rookie mistakes :)

 

Link to parts: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/FtxBNG

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7 minutes ago, Andern said:

Hello Techs,

 

I nearly finished choosing the parts for my new pc, and i'd like to hear your thoughts on it.

 

But first, about my wishes and budget.

 

The goal is to make a gaming pc, that's relatively future proof (4-5 years), where my built can rely on getting a lot of fps in shooter games,  but yet spit out some good quality when playing more graphical games.


My budget is 2000 USD for everything including monitor, keyboard, mouse etc. - this can however be changed +/- maybe 500 USD, but i would very much prefer it to be within the 2k range.

 

my favorite games is currently:

 

Rust, CS:GO, League of legends, occasionally wow.

 

I'm currently playing on a laptop with only a HDD, and that really kills me in rust, where loading times is crucial, hence the Samsung 950 SSD.

 

My last wish is to make my build as silent as possible, as I'll be playing close the bedroom.

 

Please leave any suggestions/feedback on my build and tell me if i made any rookie mistakes :)

 

Link to parts: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/FtxBNG

$2000, no 980ti? Also, if future proofing is your game, arguable 390 is what should be in your build.

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($245.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X61 106.1 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($135.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 DDR3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($64.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($64.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($86.75 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB FTW ACX 2.0+ Video Card  ($629.99 @ NCIX US) 
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($109.99 @ NCIX US) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ NCIX US) 
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer  ($19.89 @ OutletPC) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM (64-bit)  ($124.86 @ B&H) 
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor  ($248.00 @ Amazon) 
Keyboard: Corsair K95 Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($129.95 @ Amazon) 
Mouse: Razer Mamba Tournament Edition Wired Laser Mouse  ($69.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2171.25
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-03-07 21:03 EST-0500

 

Switched out the 5820k and 970 foir a i5 and a 980 ti

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1 minute ago, Aytex said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($245.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X61 106.1 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($135.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 DDR3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($64.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($64.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($86.75 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB FTW ACX 2.0+ Video Card  ($629.99 @ NCIX US) 
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($109.99 @ NCIX US) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ NCIX US) 
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer  ($19.89 @ OutletPC) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM (64-bit)  ($124.86 @ B&H) 
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor  ($248.00 @ Amazon) 
Keyboard: Corsair K95 Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($129.95 @ Amazon) 
Mouse: Razer Mamba Tournament Edition Wired Laser Mouse  ($69.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2171.25
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-03-07 21:03 EST-0500

So sacrifice the 950 and i-7 for the 980 Ti? Interesting, thanks for your input :)

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1 minute ago, Andern said:

So sacrifice the 950 and i-7 for the 980 Ti? Interesting, thanks for your input :)

The fps difference between having a i5 and a i7 is 2-3fps  if your lucky

the difference between a 980 ti and a 970 is 50-100fps if your lucky with overclocking 

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I dont think you need windows 10 pro...maybe go with the h100i for that price. For future proofing, go with an r9 390

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1 minute ago, jkeasley said:

I dont think you need windows 10 pro...maybe go with the h100i for that price. For future proofing, go with an r9 390

Thank you, i will consider your suggestion, it is very appreciated :)

 

 

5 minutes ago, Andern said:

So sacrifice the 950 and i-7 for the 980 Ti? Interesting, thanks for your input :)

 i see that both of you included a water cooler, is it much better? i'm not counting on overclocking much if any at all, how is it compared to the noctua?

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This is what I recommend, personally. You don't need thermal paste either. The cooler comes with a tube of good paste.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($379.99 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($89.74 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z170 Gaming K4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($128.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($79.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($86.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($53.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB FTW ACX 2.0+ Video Card  ($639.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($118.47 @ Amazon) 
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer  ($20.98 @ Newegg) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM (64-bit)  ($142.99 @ Best Buy) 
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor  ($248.00 @ Amazon) 
Keyboard: Corsair K95 Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($129.95 @ Amazon) 
Mouse: Razer Mamba Tournament Edition Wired Laser Mouse  ($69.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2182.05
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-03-07 21:12 EST-0500

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I'm starting to realize i must get the 980 TI, i will definately look into that, any opinions on 4 vs 6 cores on the CPU? i'd like to run multiple programs in the background ie. music, skype, firefox etc. would that be possible with 4 cores?

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4 minutes ago, Andern said:

 i see that both of you included a water cooler, is it much better? i'm not counting on overclocking much if any at all, how is it compared to the noctua?

If you're not overclocking, you can get away with using a cheaper air CPU cooler. I'm assuming you went originally for the Noctua for silence. Water coolers are usually louder.

CPU: Ryzen 5 3600X            | Cooler: Deepcool AK400      | Motherboard: B550 Elite AX V2  | Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 1TB  |

RAM: Corsair Vengeance 16GB   | GPU: MSI RTX 3060 Ti        | Case: NZXT H440 (Red/Black)    | PSU: EVGA 650W G2             |

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Comparative build, $2068:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($374.88 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H5 Ultimate 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($46.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170X-Gaming 3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($131.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($79.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: A-Data Premier SP550 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB FTW ACX 2.0+ Video Card  ($629.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro M Acrylic ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.99 @ Newegg)  <<Comes with a fan controller to keep up to six fans quiet.
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSC0B DVD/CD Writer  ($13.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit)  ($87.95 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Fractal Design SSR3-140-WT 56.1 CFM 140mm  Fan  ($10.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor  ($248.00 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Corsair STRAFE Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: SteelSeries Rival 300 Wired Optical Mouse  ($52.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2027.61
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-03-07 21:22 EST-0500

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2 minutes ago, Gale said:

If you're not overclocking, you can get away with using a cheaper air CPU cooler. I'm assuming you went originally for the Noctua for silence. Water coolers are usually louder.

You are very right here :) i'm not going to overclock the first couple of years, might do it when i begin to see lack in performance :)

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1 minute ago, Andern said:

I'm starting to realize i must get the 980 TI, i will definately look into that, any opinions on 4 vs 6 cores on the CPU? i'd like to run multiple programs in the background ie. music, skype, firefox etc. would that be possible with 4 cores?

Yes....

You just need more ram if you want and you have more than you need

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($199.89 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X31 69.5 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($73.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 DDR3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($64.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($64.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($86.75 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB FTW ACX 2.0+ Video Card  ($629.99 @ NCIX US) 
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($109.99 @ NCIX US) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ NCIX US) 
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer  ($19.89 @ OutletPC) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM (64-bit)  ($124.86 @ B&H) 
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor  ($248.00 @ Amazon) 
Keyboard: Corsair K95 Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($129.95 @ Amazon) 
Mouse: Razer Mamba Tournament Edition Wired Laser Mouse  ($69.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2063.15
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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got you a locked cpu and a cheaper watercooler that will preformance good and quiet (also aesthetically pleasing)

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12 minutes ago, Andern said:

Thank you, i will consider your suggestion, it is very appreciated :)

 

 

 i see that both of you included a water cooler, is it much better? i'm not counting on overclocking much if any at all, how is it compared to the noctua?

i am a noctua fanboy. even though they are air coolers they perform better and are quieter than a lot of AIO liquid coolers 

http://www.amazon.com/Noctua-NH-D15-heatpipe-NF-A15-140mm/dp/B00L7UZMAK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1457404020&sr=8-1&keywords=noctua+nh-d15 

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13 minutes ago, Aytex said:

Yes....

You just need more ram if you want and you have more than you need

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($199.89 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X31 69.5 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($73.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 DDR3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($64.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($64.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($86.75 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB FTW ACX 2.0+ Video Card  ($629.99 @ NCIX US) 
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($109.99 @ NCIX US) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ NCIX US) 
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer  ($19.89 @ OutletPC) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM (64-bit)  ($124.86 @ B&H) 
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor  ($248.00 @ Amazon) 
Keyboard: Corsair K95 Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($129.95 @ Amazon) 
Mouse: Razer Mamba Tournament Edition Wired Laser Mouse  ($69.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2063.15
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-03-07 21:22 EST-0500

 

got you a locked cpu and a cheaper watercooler that will preformance good and quiet (also aesthetically pleasing)

i dont think he needs 32GB of ram 16GB is plenty if he is not video editing or something like that

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/7qmsyc

what i would get

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Ok. Pretty good. Here are my reccomendations. I have made all changes with 'future-proofness' in mind, no matter how much I hate that term :)  

  • Switch out the 5820k. You do not need it. Look at a i7 6700k or 6700 or maybe even a 6600k. People with sandy bridge i5s are still going strong today so a 6600k will last a while. 
  • Unless you are doing content creation or somthing similar just get a dual stick 8gb ram kit. In the future if you need more just upgrade. You will have two more slots empty! 
  • If you really want to go for long lasting preformace then maybe wait or pascal and Polaris. If you don't want to wait try and shell out for a 980ti or a r9 fury. 
  • You don't need a 950 SSD. Just get one large SSD like a 850 evo 500gb and a big fast HDD like a 1tb WD black. 
  • Wierd choice for the cooler. I like the fact that you went air cooling. In my experience closed loop coolers have caused problems over the long term. Look at a nhd15 or a nhu14. They offer similar or better preformace than a closed loop cooler. you do end up going for water over air look at a enthusiast grade solution like an EkWb predator or a custom loop in a box type thing from Alphacool or ek. The thermal compound that comes with Noctua coolers is fine. You don't need an aftermarket solution
  • Maybe look at a 1440p 27" 60htz monitor. Unless you are pretty competitive 60 fps is fine and 1440p and a larger size will make you happier for longer, taking away the need to upgrade 
  • Don't get an optical drive. End of discussion 
  • That is an intense keyboard! Do you really need it? If you play a lot of MOBA or MMO games then the macros might be good. If you don't care go for a k70 or an Azio MGK1 if you want to save some money. 
  • I always reccomend the Steelseries rival 300 over anything else. I reckon it is the best fps mouse available. 

Long answer i know know but I hope you found my advice helpful and constructive. Live long and prosper my friend :) 

I'm here to help people and have fun. Feel free to chat! 

 

 

i5 6500

Asus Z170-AR 

Saphhire Nitro 380X

 Hyper X Fury Black 16gb (2x8gb) 2133

 

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Thank you everyone of this amazing feedback, i'll be squeezing the gtx 980 ti in. - i really don't need that much hard drive space right now.

 

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor  ($376.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U9DXi4 37.8 CFM CPU Cooler  ($59.95 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock X99 Extreme4 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard  ($189.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($78.20 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 950 PRO 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($181.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB WINDFORCE 3X Video Card  ($599.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($109.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer  ($19.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM (64-bit)  ($124.86 @ B&H)
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor  ($248.00 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Corsair K95 Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($129.95 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Razer Mamba Tournament Edition Wired Laser Mouse  ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2289.74
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

 

I'll keep the watercooling in mind and the downgrade of the CPU, i just feel like the benchmarking from the 5820k to the 6700k seems like quite a drop in numbers but ehh..

 

thank you very much guys :) this build is going to be awesome.

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40 minutes ago, Andern said:

Hello Techs,

 

I nearly finished choosing the parts for my new pc, and i'd like to hear your thoughts on it.

 

But first, about my wishes and budget.

 

The goal is to make a gaming pc, that's relatively future proof (4-5 years), where my built can rely on getting a lot of fps in shooter games,  but yet spit out some good quality when playing more graphical games.


My budget is 2000 USD for everything including monitor, keyboard, mouse etc. - this can however be changed +/- maybe 500 USD, but i would very much prefer it to be within the 2k range.

 

my favorite games is currently:

 

Rust, CS:GO, League of legends, occasionally wow.

 

I'm currently playing on a laptop with only a HDD, and that really kills me in rust, where loading times is crucial, hence the Samsung 950 SSD.

 

My last wish is to make my build as silent as possible, as I'll be playing close the bedroom.

 

Please leave any suggestions/feedback on my build and tell me if i made any rookie mistakes :)

 

Link to parts: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/FtxBNG

My biggest question is how long do you plan on keeping that monitor. If its for a relatively long time or the life of that system that a 980ti is overkill. Like the suggestions say get a 390 instead with 8gb, it will save you money which you can spend on that shiny 950 pro. Also the 512gb uses a different controller I believe and is actually significantly faster than the 256gb version.

 

For simple programs like Netflix and Skype a skylake i5 is plenty.

 

If you don't plan on overclocking any H or Z 170 board will most likely do but if you want a significant overclock I suggest spending some money IF you go with Skylake over haswell.

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5 minutes ago, BurblingBarbacoa said:

Ok. Pretty good. Here are my reccomendations. I have made all changes with 'future-proofness' in mind, no matter how much I hate that term :)  

  • Switch out the 5820k. You do not need it. Look at a i7 6700k or 6700 or maybe even a 6600k. People with sandy bridge i5s are still going strong today so a 6600k will last a while. 
  • Unless you are doing content creation or somthing similar just get a dual stick 8gb ram kit. In the future if you need more just upgrade. You will have two more slots empty! 
  • If you really want to go for long lasting preformace then maybe wait or pascal and Polaris. If you don't want to wait try and shell out for a 980ti or a r9 fury. 
  • You don't need a 950 SSD. Just get one large SSD like a 850 evo 500gb and a big fast HDD like a 1tb WD black. 
  • Wierd choice for the cooler. I like the fact that you went air cooling. In my experience closed loop coolers have caused problems over the long term. Look at a nhd15 or a nhu14. They offer similar or better preformace than a closed loop cooler. you do end up going for water over air look at a enthusiast grade solution like an EkWb predator or a custom loop in a box type thing from Alphacool or ek. The thermal compound that comes with Noctua coolers is fine. You don't need an aftermarket solution
  • Maybe look at a 1440p 27" 60htz monitor. Unless you are pretty competitive 60 fps is fine and 1440p and a larger size will make you happier for longer, taking away the need to upgrade 
  • Don't get an optical drive. End of discussion 
  • That is an intense keyboard! Do you really need it? If you play a lot of MOBA or MMO games then the macros might be good. If you don't care go for a k70 or an Azio MGK1 if you want to save some money. 
  • I always reccomend the Steelseries rival 300 over anything else. I reckon it is the best fps mouse available. 

Long answer i know know but I hope you found my advice helpful and constructive. Live long and prosper my friend :) 

Wow, great feedback very nice and well spoken. i appreciate that very much. in regards of monitors, wouldn't it be weird buying a 60hz/fps monitor with a gtx 980 ti? with the games i play? - i'll leave the optical drive out, and rely on the USB ports :)

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6 minutes ago, Hunter7263 said:

My biggest question is how long do you plan on keeping that monitor. If its for a relatively long time or the life of that system that a 980ti is overkill. Like the suggestions say get a 390 instead with 8gb, it will save you money which you can spend on that shiny 950 pro. Also the 512gb uses a different controller I believe and is actually significantly faster than the 256gb version.

 

For simple programs like Netflix and Skype a skylake i5 is plenty.

 

If you don't plan on overclocking any H or Z 170 board will most likely do but if you want a significant overclock I suggest spending some money IF you go with Skylake over haswell.

I was in quite a dilemma regarding the monitor actually due to the budget. However the hope was to get a Asus PG279Q ROG Swift in the future :)

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5 minutes ago, Andern said:

I was in quite a dilemma regarding the monitor actually due to the budget, however the hope was to get a Asus PG279Q ROG Swift in the future :)

I want one of those as well! The most questionable issue is that a 980ti (from last I heard) doesn't support a crucial part of DX12 which is a-synchronous compute. The drivers where coded to say they where but in tests it didn't actually work. I don't know if that was a driver issue or if it was a hardware issue. Its been a while since ive seen anything on it. The 390 is fully dx12 compatible which is more "future proof" but has less performance but you can crossfire them later and same some money now and probably get 980ti performance when crossfired.

 

That being said I don't see games taking full advantage of DX12 anytime soon (like years)

 

Personally I really wanted a set of 980ti's because I need the cuda cores but ended up buying a single 950 instead to game at 1080 and am waiting for pascal instead which is rumored to launch this summer.

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1 minute ago, Hunter7263 said:

I want one of those as well! The most questionable issue is that a 980ti (from last I heard) doesn't support a crucial part of DX12 which is a-synchronous compute. The drivers where coded to say they where but in tests it didn't actually work. I don't know if that was a driver issue or if it was a hardware issue. Its been a while since ive seen anything on it. The 390 is fully dx12 compatible which is more "future proof" but has less performance but you can crossfire them later and same some money now and probably get 980ti performance when crossfired.

 

Personally I really wanted a set of 980ti's because I need the cuda cores but ended up buying a single 950 instead to game at 1080 and am waiting for pascal instead which is rumored to launch this summer.

Good thoughts, i might do a bit of research on that dx12 :) thank you

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Suggesting a GPU at this time will be really hard since Pascal and rumored the new AMD GPU generation also coming soon, so if you have the choice, how about getting a R9 390/GTX 970 second hand for cheap? They would be cheap enough at this point and powerful enough for you to play most game smoothly at 1080p. And you could always sell it for almost the same price when the newer GPU come out. If you go with a 980Ti or so at this time, it will lose alot of value as soon as the newer GPU come out. 970 or R9 390, not as much.

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9 minutes ago, Andern said:

Good thoughts, i might do a bit of research on that dx12 :) thank you

He is right and wrong about DX12.  Current AMD GPUs have a much more robust hardware level support system for ASync compute shaders.  AMD up to 64 queue depth, to nVidia's 32 queue depth. 

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18 minutes ago, Andern said:

Wow, great feedback very nice and well spoken. i appreciate that very much. in regards of monitors, wouldn't it be weird buying a 60hz/fps monitor with a gtx 980 ti? with the games i play? - i'll leave the optical drive out, and rely on the USB ports :)

I don't think so. If you save up more you could upgrade to 1440p surround or maybe you could just get a 4K monitor (there are some great Korean options). 1080p is kind of a waste. Even my 960 can output 144+ fps in Cs go at ultra settings. No matter the refresh rate. 60htz is fine for everything. Unless you rely on the extra few fps absolutely and are in a highly competitive circle, even CS:GO is good with 60fps. 

 

Good. Optical drive are near useless these days. If you want more ports then get a 5.25 usb 3.0 expander or a pci expansion card. 

 

And thanks. Good to know the response was helpful :) 

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