OLD CPU VS NEW CPU

[dragoncurt]

Hi. I am going to try and do a fun build and then my little brother can use it for gaming. But I am wanting to know is it worth going for like an intel Q6600 vs an 1st or second gen i5 or i7 also with some of the old cpu's it allows you to only have DDR2 is this still good for gaming these days.

 

Thanks

[Darkseth]

If used, then 2nd gen (Sandy Bridge).

i5 2500k/i7 2600k + P67 board can be quite cheap.

 

On the Q6600 it really depends, what games you play, what resolution, and what the rest of the  System is.

If you use a GTX 970 or similar, then such an old CPU will limit for Sure.

[DaltonM]

If your CPU limits you to DDR2, it's not going to be good for gaming. 

 

You want atleast a quadcore CPU for gaming as well. Some faster dual core chips aren't so bad. But I imagine you're probably not going to be Overclocking, so aim for a quad core DDR3 anything. 

[dragoncurt]

Oh okay. I am wanting to overclock if I can but that's what turned me off a q6600 as the DDR2 ram. I will try for a second gen i5/i7

[Hunter7263]

1 minute ago, DaltonM said:

If your CPU limits you to DDR2, it's not going to be good for gaming. 

 

You want atleast a quadcore CPU for gaming as well. Some faster dual core chips aren't so bad. But I imagine you're probably not going to be Overclocking, so aim for a quad core DDR3 anything. 

How does DDR2 limit gaming performance unless there is an on board gpu without a dedicated? I was under the impression that relatively low CAS was far better because the bandwidth still basically never got saturated during gaming. Much like current PCIE3 Lanes. I could be wrong.

[dragoncurt]

1 minute ago, Hunter7263 said:

How does DDR2 limit gaming performance unless there is an on board gpu without a dedicated? I was under the impression that relatively low CAS was far better because the bandwidth still basically never got saturated during gaming. Much like current PCIE3 Lanes. I could be wrong.

Is DDR2 ram not bad for gaming then. 

[NumLock21]

Socket 775 also have DDR3. But Sandy Bridge or Ivy Bridge will be the better option. Skip LynnField.

[dragoncurt]

Just now, NumLock21 said:

Socket 775 also have DDR3.

Oh okay this is on Ebay though the ones I was looking at. https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P5B/specifications/ I would need a new mobo then. Thanks 

[Hunter7263]

2 minutes ago, dragoncurt said:

Is DDR2 ram not bad for gaming then. 

Not sure thats why I'm asking. I thought it wasnt really a problem.

[dragoncurt]

Just now, Hunter7263 said:

Not sure thats why I'm asking. I thought it wasnt really a problem.

Oh I thought there is not much difference in gaming in DDR2 VS 3 I could be wrong then

[dragoncurt]

12 minutes ago, Darkseth said:

If used, then 2nd gen (Sandy Bridge).

i5 2500k/i7 2600k + P67 board can be quite cheap.

 

On the Q6600 it really depends, what games you play, what resolution, and what the rest of the  System is.

If you use a GTX 970 or similar, then such an old CPU will limit for Sure.

Intel Core i3 2100  is that any good for 720p gamin. Even though its only dual core. 

[DocSwag]

2 minutes ago, dragoncurt said:

Oh I thought there is not much difference in gaming in DDR2 VS 3 I could be wrong then

Linus should do a video on that 

Though with DDR4 out now he should probably do like a DDR4 vs DDR3 vs DDR2 video or something like that.

[Darkseth]

1 minute ago, dragoncurt said:

Intel Core i3 2100  is that any good for 720p gamin. Even though its only dual core. 

Depends on the Game itself, and the GPU you use ^^ Some games are really CPU Hungry.

But it's okay.

 

It also depends on the Price.. if you pay 15 bucks more, for an i5 2400/2500, then go for that.

[Sat1600]

This could help save money

 

 

 

[dragoncurt]

4 minutes ago, Sat1600 said:

This could help save money

 

 

 

Was thinking of that but I'm just concerned if DDR2 will not do so good for gaming. Thanks

[Sat1600]

1 minute ago, dragoncurt said:

Was thinking of that but I'm just concerned if DDR2 will not do so good for gaming. Thanks

Games are going to be more limited by the cpu than the type of ram. The drawback of ddr2 is more capacity than it is performance.

[dragoncurt]

Just now, Sat1600 said:

Games are going to be more limited by the cpu than the type of ram. The drawback of ddr2 is more capacity than it is performance.

So a Q6600 with 8 GB DDR2 ram with a average good gpu would do good 720P gaming. Thanks

[Sat1600]

5 minutes ago, dragoncurt said:

So a Q6600 with 8 GB DDR2 ram with a average good gpu would do good 720P gaming. Thanks

Depends on the gpu. Not sure how much you are really saving though. How much are you going to spend on cpu/motherboard and ram?

 

Do you live near microcenter? 

[dragoncurt]

Just now, Sat1600 said:

Depends on the gpu. Not sure how much you are really saving though. How much are you going to spend on cpu/motherboard and ram?

 

Do you live near microcenter? 

I was going to buy from ebay. It was a package with 4GB DDR2 with cooler and mobo but I would need to buy a GPU and PSU also a case. It is for £50.

[Sat1600]

Ok. 

4 minutes ago, dragoncurt said:

I was going to buy from ebay. It was a package with 4GB DDR2 with cooler and mobo but I would need to buy a GPU and PSU also a case. It is for £50.

Sounds good.  Check prices on phenom ii x4. Not sure what those are going for nowadays but those were awesome

[dragoncurt]

Just now, Sat1600 said:

Ok. 

Sounds good.  Check prices on phenom ii x4. Not sure what those are going for nowadays but those were awesome

Oh but still will the DDR2 be bad for gaming ish. Also I will check that CPU thanks.

[Sat1600]

That's what they used in this video

 

 

[GloriousPain]

Note; There's also Xeon equivalents to Gen 1 Core iX parts, X58 and i7 920+ or Xeon W3520+ or X5550+ or E5520+ are a nice combination, or LGA 1156 Motherboard and Xeon X3440+ Core i7 860+ are cheap ways to get ahold of atleast 8thread parts of nahalem  (1st Gen core iX cpus)