Skylake vs Haswell

[UWotimus]

Hello, I am beggining to plan a new build but im not sure wether to go with the newer i7 6700k or the older but cheaper i7 4790k. Is the skylake cpu worth spending extra on or should I go haswell? I am aware the skylake cpus have a new socket, would this be good for future-proofing?

[Burnedice25]

um' you should get a i5 6700k or an AMD FX6300   plz respond and let me know what you think

[Arwanell]

2 minutes ago, TheCODclown25 said:

um' you should get a i5 6700k or an AMD FX6300   plz respond and let me know what you think

what the actual f**k?

[Burnedice25]

1 minute ago, Arwanell said:

what the actual f**k?

whats wrong?

[Arwanell]

2 minutes ago, TheCODclown25 said:

whats wrong?

6700k is i7

and what the hell has cheap shit FX6300 to do with this?

[HKZeroFive]

2 minutes ago, TheCODclown25 said:

whats wrong?

The FX6300 and 4790K are not remotely close. Let alone the 6700K.

[Josephdalepi]

2 minutes ago, TheCODclown25 said:

whats wrong?

the fx 6300 is fuckin GARBAGE

my friend has one

6 core amd at shit speeds

[Burnedice25]

hey soz if i upset u im trying my best and about the fx6300   it has 6 cores and its at 3.5 GHZ     and i think u should consider it

[Guuhan]

2 minutes ago, TheCODclown25 said:

hey soz if i upset u im trying my best and about the fx6300   it has 6 cores and its at 3.5 GHZ     and i think u should consider it

They are not even in the same league bro. 

[HKZeroFive]

2 minutes ago, TheCODclown25 said:

hey soz if i upset u im trying my best and about the fx6300   it has 6 cores and its at 3.5 GHZ     and i think u should consider it

Please don't base recommendations just off specs. The number of cores and its clock speed is irrelevant when the 6700K and 4790K have a much higher IPC.

[Burnedice25]

OK OK i have caused an argument so im just gonna say soz for everyone and soz if i may appear dumb   i'm only new to PC hard ware  

[Burnedice25]

OK OK i have caused an argument so im just gonna say soz for everyone and soz if i may appear dumb   i'm only new to PC hard ware  

[Maccat123]

If you want future proofing, the I7 6700K will win, it's the best of the newest for a Desktop, but that's if you can afford it. 
Either are great though tbf, just be sure you have ddr4, I made that initial mistake lol. 

[Arwanell]

21 minutes ago, TheCODclown25 said:

OK OK i have caused an argument so im just gonna say soz for everyone and soz if i may appear dumb   i'm only new to PC hard ware  

let's put it this way:

let's say that 6700K = Mercedes C63 AMG

Fx6300 = 2005 Clio 1.2

[Maccat123]

39 minutes ago, UWotimus said:

 I am aware the skylake cpus have a new socket, would this be good for future-proofing?

I'm just referring to that point, nothing else, hence me saying if he has the money lol. 
Either is good, but the increase on skylake isn't that amazing that it'd warrant splashing what you don't have or can't.

[QBtech]

Honestly if your building a new rig from the ground up,  go skylake. Although the cpu and mobo will go obsolete the ddr4, especially if you are buying 8gb dimms, will last the next 5 years. 

 

Furthermore skylake is faster/better than haswell so it will last you slightly longer. Also native support for NVMe and more stuff. 

 

Its true that skylake is no reason to upgrade, but if you are building a new rig anyway....  

 

 

But than again if you have ddr3 laying around, lets say 16gigs and ur choice is 4790k vs i5 6600k and buying ddr4,  I would go for the 4790k.

 

So in conclusion my recommendation comes down to: do you need to buy ram regardless? Go skylake.  

But if you need to spend atleast 100 extra for the ram, and not even considering the fact a second hand mobo and 4790k is not that hard to find currently, put that money towards a better gpu.

Got an infinite money budget? Get your ass on x99 and wire me some

Edited February 9, 2016 by QBtech

[Frame Drops]

if you can afford i7 6700k than go for the new sky lake 14nm architecture, it will give you slightly better performance than i7 4790k, it support current gen. RAM (DDR4),  In short you can say you are equipped with latest product.

Edited February 9, 2016 by amit523dutta
typing mistake

[TravisTea]

Honestly, I'd just go with whatever fits your budget better. If you need cheaper, then I would go Haswell. Performance-wise you shouldn't see anything drastic between the 6700k and 4790k, unless you absolutely need the DDR4 for something like video rendering. Just my 2 cents.

[lightningterror]

If money isn't the issue if I were you I would go for Skylake. Better ipc , newer technology and ddr4 support.Otherwise you can go for Haswell if you wanna save some money.

 

What will the pc be used for? If it's gaming then an i5 6600k would also be good.

[Josephdalepi]

On 2/9/2016 at 3:28 AM, TheCODclown25 said:

hey soz if i upset u im trying my best and about the fx6300   it has 6 cores and its at 3.5 GHZ     and i think u should consider it

a 6300 is nowhere comparable to a 6700k is the problem

its actually more comparable to something like an i3 from like... socket 775

[typographie]

On 2/9/2016 at 4:15 AM, UWotimus said:

Hello, I am beggining to plan a new build but im not sure wether to go with the newer i7 6700k or the older but cheaper i7 4790k. Is the skylake cpu worth spending extra on or should I go haswell? I am aware the skylake cpus have a new socket, would this be good for future-proofing?

The difference between the two is a small amount of baseline performance and better connectivity with Skylake, but the two are extremely close. The only thing that Skylake would really enable you to do that [mostly] can't be done with Haswell is plug in a lot of very high-bandwidth, PCIe-based SSDs. Most people are unlikely to use one PCIe SSD, let alone an array of them.

 

It comes down to how much you're being charged for a 6700K, since I don't know where you're located or what retailer you're buying from. The U.S. price for a 6700K right now is still ≥$400, and at that price it's definitely not worth the difference. If the price wherever you're buying is closer to the $350 MSRP, take Skylake.

[Darkseth]

Depending on the price difference. I would go with skylake:

 

- lower temperatures (Haswell gets hotter)

- slightly less power consuming

- faster architecture. GlobalFoundry did some tests,  Skylake can have like 17% better Frames

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- M.2 in full speed (e ven if there is no practical Use)

- USB 3.1 Type C

 

 

Its the more modern platform. If you pay 40 bucks more? Go for it.

If it magically is like 100-120 bucks more, then... maybe not.

If you already have DDR3, and wants to use it, the price difference would be even higher.

 

All depends where you live. 6700k is in germany 363€, 4790k is 340€.

 

I personally would always go with the newest. Since in this case, the Platform itself made some good steps forward.

 

 

@ the fx 6300 troll: The FX 6300 is a LOW entry CPU from AMD. This thing is not even a Match for an i3 Dual Core in terms of Gaming.

 

Even the FX 9590 (8 Cores, 4,7 ghz) would get completely DESTROYED by an i7 6700k.

[typographie]

24 minutes ago, Darkseth said:

@ the fx 6300 troll: The FX 6300 is a LOW entry CPU from AMD. This thing is not even a Match for an i3 Dual Core in terms of Gaming.

 

Even the FX 9590 (8 Cores, 4,7 ghz) would get completely DESTROYED by an i7 6700k.

The guy already admitted he was misinformed, apologized, and still half the thread going forward has been about this.

 

Spoiler

 

Edited February 10, 2016 by typographie
Good point, threw spoiler tags around the image to keep things clean.

[Darkseth]

1 minute ago, typographie said:

The guy already admitted he was misinformed, apologized, and still half the thread going forward has been about this.

 

Oh i apologise. I don't have my glasses on, do you maybe have a bigger version of that Picture? I really can't see it.