Norton 2014... thoughts?

[Lyons]

Refer to what I said here:

And so do I

Visiting dodgey websites falls under the the Common Sense protection clause. If you break it, it is your fault.

[marc23]

Refer to what I said here:

And so do I

Hmm, I see what you're saying, but can't a simply AV like MSE take care of that problem? Why spend money and CPU workload on something that could be taken care of in a simpler way? I may be wrong, but honestly I just don't think it's worth it.

[Blade of Grass]

Visiting dodgey websites falls under the the Common Sense protection clause. If you break it, it is your fault.

Lol, you think that people only add this to their own site.

If someone were to say, hack a site. They could add an iFrame to it. No matter how non dodgy a site is, if it gets hacked, and that gets added you'll have a virus, while (most likely) I won't.

Read what he says:

Yes yes yes

Why do "tech savvy" people KEEP insisting on that ridiculous notion that "common sense is all you need"? It's such bullshit, and is harmful to tell others to use this practice. Please stop spreading this myth.

Legit, real websites DO get compromised, hacked, infected, etc. If this happens, common sense will not save you.

Every PC that is connected to the Internet needs an anti-virus.

With that in mind, MSE/defender that's part of Windows 8 is probably good enough for most people. I personally would recommend upgrading to Avast (free edition), or Kaspersky (Paid), as they both generally offer better protection, based on 3rd party independent testing.

[Blade of Grass]

Hmm, I see what you're saying, but can't a simply AV like MSE take care of that problem? Why spend money and CPU workload on something that could be taken care of in a simpler way? I may be wrong, but honestly I just don't think it's worth it.

You are correct. I'm just saying that using common sense only is a bad policy as good, real legit sites too can get hacked

[Lyons]

Lol, you think that people only add this to their own site.

If someone were to say, hack a site. They could add an iFrame to it. No matter how non dodgy a site is, if it gets hacked, and that gets added you'll have a virus, while (most likely) I won't.

Read what he says:

 

I've been using MSE and Windows Defender (depends on whether the computer is Win7 or Win8) for about 4 years now and have had ZERO problems thus far. After a year of not doing a reformat I ran a comprehensive MalwareBytes scan recently and it came up with NOTHING (not to mention I torrent files pretty much constantly). If there is every a threat, MSE/WD pops up in a little window above the taskbar and asks if I want to block/remove it, and I do. A free AV like MSE/WD/AVG/Avast etc. and some COMMON SENSE will do you just fine.

[Blade of Grass]

I've been using MSE and Windows Defender (depends on whether the computer is Win7 or Win8) for about 4 years now and have had ZERO problems thus far. After a year of not doing a reformat I ran a comprehensive MalwareBytes scan recently and it came up with NOTHING (not to mention I torrent files pretty much constantly). If there is every a threat, MSE/WD pops up in a little window above the taskbar and asks if I want to block/remove it, and I do. A free AV like MSE/WD/AVG/Avast etc. and some COMMON SENSE will do you just fine.

Ok, well, if you read your post, you state just using common sense and you'll be fine. Now you're stating to use an AV. Please, make up your mind.

[Lyons]

Ok, well, if you read your post, you state just using common sense and you'll be fine. Now you're stating to use an AV. Please, make up your mind.

It would be idiotic to recommend someone not use an AV suite. Read the rest of the thread buddy:

 

Common sense 2013 coupled with MSE/Windows Defender is easily the best free AV.

You even quoted it earlier. All I was saying in your other quotation of me is that not visiting dogey sites is common sense. AV unto itself will not stop you from being stupid. Common sense will. We agree. Stop projecting and shitting up the thread.

[NateTheGreatDog]

I despise Norton, it is the bane of my existence, even if they advertise faster boot times and lower ram usage, there is probably a catch. i don't like the feeling of having Norton pop up and ask me the same thing windows already does...

consider me a Norton anti-fanboy lol

PS:why not windows defender? or none at all lol

 

[Camsung]

I despise Norton, it is the bane of my existence, even if they advertise faster boot times and lower ram usage, there is probably a catch. i don't like the feeling of having Norton pop up and ask me the same thing windows already does...

consider me a Norton anti-fanboy lol

PS:why not windows defender? or none at all lol

Isn't the Norton Internet Security firewall better than the Windows one though?

[NateTheGreatDog]

Isn't the Norton Internet Security firewall better than the Windows one though?

i would assume so, Ive had good luck with windows defender but i would say its not needed if your practice safe computer use, i haven't had a anti virus program in the past three years though.

[Camsung]

i would assume so, Ive had good luck with windows defender but i would say its not needed if your practice safe computer use, i haven't had a anti virus program in the past three years though.

So if I regularly connect to an unsecured wifi (my school's wifi - it has no password to connect to it but once you connect you need to log in via browser to get internet access) would I be better off with Norton Internet Security or a regular Antivirus without firewall like Avast

[NateTheGreatDog]

"Yes, Norton provides full protection eventhough it is an unsecured Wireless network. For this, you need to add the wi-fi to Network Security Map. You can set any one of the following access level to this:

 

Shared:  Adds the network to the Shared list
All the network traffic that your computer receives from a Shared network is filtered. The devices on the network can access only the shared resources on your computer, such as files, folders, and printers.

You should select this trust level if you do not trust all the devices on this network and want Norton Internet Security to protect you from virus attacks.

 

Protected:  Adds the network to the Protected list

A network is in the Protected trust level when it is not classified as Trusted, Shared, or Restricted. All the shared resources such as files and printer are protected from unauthorized access by devices on the network.

If you choose this trust level, you can remain protected from known virus attacks"

 

but this is overkill someone at your collage isint gonna getcha... but the nsa on the other hand...

 

ALSO: this means norton can protect whats on your pc but can NOT protect the traffic you are sending or receiving amongst the network. if your looking at a computer porn site called linustechtips.com people on the network could see it, IF they are watching you or look it up in a log of some sorts. The chances of them watching you is up to you, The soloution is a Proxy Server

[Camsung]

"Yes, Norton provides full protection eventhough it is an unsecured Wireless network. For this, you need to add the wi-fi to Network Security Map. You can set any one of the following access level to this:

 

Shared:  Adds the network to the Shared list

All the network traffic that your computer receives from a Shared network is filtered. The devices on the network can access only the shared resources on your computer, such as files, folders, and printers.

You should select this trust level if you do not trust all the devices on this network and want Norton Internet Security to protect you from virus attacks.

 

Protected:  Adds the network to the Protected list

A network is in the Protected trust level when it is not classified as Trusted, Shared, or Restricted. All the shared resources such as files and printer are protected from unauthorized access by devices on the network.

If you choose this trust level, you can remain protected from known virus attacks"

 

but this is overkill someone at your collage isint gonna getcha... but the nsa on the other hand...

 

ALSO: this means norton can protect whats on your pc but can NOT protect the traffic you are sending or receiving amongst the network. if your looking at a computer porn site called linustechtips.com people on the network could see it, IF they are watching you or look it up in a log of some sorts. The chances of them watching you is up to you, The soloution is a Proxy Server

Will Avast Free Antivirus be enough protection against malware and viruses on an unsecured network? Is Norton Internet Security necessary?

[NateTheGreatDog]

Will Avast Free Antivirus be enough protection against malware and viruses on an unsecured network? Is Norton Internet Security necessary?

 

Malware and viruses can be removed with any anti virus, that being said no anti virus can stop them from entering, so what does stop them from entering? Being Careful, if you don't know what it is or where its from don't download it which is what marto was referring to Below.

To address your last question, it depends... to my mother who believes that an email saying she won a million dollars, Norton is necessary

To me who knows that if an add says im missing flash is spam/virus Norton is usless

it depends on the user

 

PS: Try windows defender just type it into your windows search bar, it protects from malware and viruses just as norton does

I still feel common sense 2013 is a better option

[kirashi]

Common sense 2013 coupled with MSE/Windows Defender is easily the best free AV.

Where does one buy this so called "Common Sense 2013" product? I have search every store in town and scavenged Amazon, but simply cannot find it anywhere! 

Please excuse me while I wait for your help; I have a free pc tune up to attend to. Those flashing ads must mean it's urgent. *click*

[Lyons]

Where does one buy this so called "Common Sense 2013" product? I have search every store in town and scavenged Amazon, but simply cannot find it anywhere! 

Please excuse me while I wait for your help; I have a free pc tune up to attend to. Those flashing ads must mean it's urgent. *click*

 

Once I heard that if you're the millionth visitor to a website you get amazing prizes!

[kirashi]

Once I heard that if you're the millionth visitor to a website you get amazing prizes!

That made me laugh, and remember the Windows 98 SE days of elementary school. Used to play all those Shockwave games - you know, when Shockwave wasn't Flash - and I remember the best part was visiting a games site, getting a 1,000,000th visitor advert, and then your friend visiting the same site getting the same ad I was always like "What the --?"