First PC build for streaming/gaming

[Tjubes]

Hi,

I want to build a pc that I can play games such as CS:GO, LoL etc. while streaming with enough fps and no lagg spikes. My budget is around 1300€ (I live in the Netherlands and some parts can be much more expensive than in the US). My last computer was an iMac so I don't have a good monitor yet so I'll need to buy that too.

I had some ideas about the new Skylake processors but since this is my first PC build I don't really know what's good for me. Any help is appreciated.

The colour doesn't matter and easy cable management would be nice. I also don't know if I'll be overclocking but a motherboard that can handle it in the possible future would be great.

Thanks in advance.

[DopplerY]

That's a pretty high budget to play CS:GO and LoL but I would suggest you to watch Linus Build the Perfect Gaming PC - Holiday Buyer's Guide 2015.

I modified my skylake build to give some room to put a case and a monitor, beware that the CPU is not unlocked but the motherboard supports overclocking.

If you want to go skylake just remember that you will usually have to get DDR4 memory unless your Mobo supports DDR3.

[Streetguru]

6 hours ago, Tjubes said:

Hi,

Something with a Xeon 1231v3, and possibly a 390, or you could get a 380 with a 144hz Free-sync display potentially

280 euros for a 144hz 1080p TN free-sync display

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/aoc-monitor-g2460pf

German Part Picker Btw

PCPartPicker part list: http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/T7vHP6
Price breakdown by merchant: http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/T7vHP6/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€266.29 @ Mindfactory)
Motherboard: Asus H97M-E Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (€91.41 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Blue 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (€39.77 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€52.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 390 8GB Double Dissipation Video Card  (€336.90 @ Mindfactory)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (€40.55 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€77.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €905.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-31 21:54 CET+0100

[Tjubes]

21 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Something with a Xeon 1231v3, and possibly a 390, or you could get a 380 with a 144hz Free-sync display potentially, or just a 380 + 144hz display for better gaming

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/T7vHP6
Price breakdown by merchant: http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/T7vHP6/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€266.29 @ Mindfactory)
Motherboard: Asus H97M-E Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (€91.41 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Blue 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (€39.77 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€52.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 390 8GB Double Dissipation Video Card  (€336.90 @ Mindfactory)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (€40.55 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€77.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €905.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-31 21:54 CET+0100

@Streetguru is there any noticeable difference between DDR3-1600 and DDR4? And would it be worth to save up 200 euros more and go for the GTX 980 instead of the 390?

Also, I added an SSD and 8 GB of RAM, is it worth the money? Thanks in advance, really appreciate it.

PCPartPicker part list: http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/RyDhWZ
Price breakdown by merchant: http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/RyDhWZ/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€266.29 @ Mindfactory) 
Motherboard: Asus H97M-E Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (€91.41 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Blue 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (€78.44 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€87.95 @ Mindfactory) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€52.89 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 390 8GB Double Dissipation Video Card  (€336.86 @ Mindfactory) 
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (€40.55 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€77.89 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €1032.28
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-31 22:20 CET+0100

[Streetguru]

11 minutes ago, Tjubes said:

@Streetguru is there any noticeable difference between DDR3-1600 and DDR4? And would it be worth to save up 200 euros more and go for the GTX 980 instead of the 390?

 

Unless you already have a 1440p/4k display spending more on your GPU probably isn't worth it, better to save that money for the future

 

if you wanted a better GPU though the R9 Nano just had a price drop, so it's going to be faster overall than the 980 for the same price, plus you still have money on the adaptive sync display

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-video-card-r9nano4sf6

[Tjubes]

23 hours ago, Streetguru said:

Unless you already have a 1440p/4k display spending more on your GPU probably isn't worth it, better to save that money for the future

 

if you wanted a better GPU though the R9 Nano just had a price drop, so it's going to be faster overall than the 980 for the same price, plus you still have money on the adaptive sync display

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-video-card-r9nano4sf6

Think imma buy the R9 Nano then, but I have another question: can this motherboard even have multiple 1440p monitors? I only see 1 HDMI port and not even a Display Port, so i guess FreeSync is also out of the question...

[TheRandomness]

You plug the display cables into the GPU, not the motherboard.

[FloRolf]

5 hours ago, Tjubes said:

Think imma buy the R9 Nano then, but I have another question: can this motherboard even have multiple 1440p monitors? I only see 1 HDMI port and not even a Display Port, so i guess FreeSync is also out of the question...

The motherboard doesn't output your video when you have an R9 Nano.

The nano can do 4x 1440p displays easily. The motherboard can do two but you shouldn't cause it would run off of onboard. (It has DVI+HDMI and VGA but nobody cares about VGA)

[Tjubes]

2 minutes ago, TheRandomness said:

You plug the display cables into the GPU, not the motherboard.

Didn't even know that, I'm new to building pc's so..

[TYCriswell2]

On 1/31/2016 at 9:03 AM, Tjubes said:

Hi,

I want to build a pc that I can play games such as CS:GO, LoL etc. while streaming with enough fps and no lagg spikes. My budget is around 1300€ (I live in the Netherlands and some parts can be much more expensive than in the US). My last computer was an iMac so I don't have a good monitor yet so I'll need to buy that too.

I had some ideas about the new Skylake processors but since this is my first PC build I don't really know what's good for me. Any help is appreciated.

The colour doesn't matter and easy cable management would be nice. I also don't know if I'll be overclocking but a motherboard that can handle it in the possible future would be great.

Thanks in advance.

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A GTX 970 can easily push Counter Strike and LoL. with a ton of room to still stream. go with a 6600k, and I would get a Z170 Deluxe which some people say is the best Z170 board. You can check if you can afford them in the Netherlands but these are what I would go with. 

[Tjubes]

3 minutes ago, FloRolf said:

The motherboard doesn't output your video when you have an R9 Nano.

The nano can do 4x 1440p displays easily. The motherboard can do two but you shouldn't cause it would run off of onboard. (It has DVI+HDMI and VGA but nobody cares about VGA)

so i can just buy 2 or 3 1440p displays without any trouble right?

[FloRolf]

Just now, Tjubes said:

so i can just buy 2 or 3 1440p displays without any trouble right?

Yeah but that'd be an insane resolution for one R9 Nano to push (in games, desktop is okay ofc). 

If you just want to play CS:GO and LoL, even at 1440p, you should get an 380x or something a little cheaper. 

what do you want the displays for?

[Tjubes]

Just now, FloRolf said:

Yeah but that'd be an insane resolution for one R9 Nano to push (in games, desktop is okay ofc). 

If you just want to play CS:GO and LoL, even at 1440p, you should get an 380x or something a little cheaper. 

what do you want the displays for?

I like video editing and playing around with photoshop. Also just like to have a monitor that's a bit future proof i guess. And do you mean a R9 Nano can't handle that or that it would be overkill?

[FloRolf]

2 minutes ago, Tjubes said:

I like video editing and playing around with photoshop. Also just like to have a monitor that's a bit future proof i guess. And do you mean a R9 Nano can't handle that or that it would be overkill?

Well, the Nano can do CSGO at 7680x1440 probably but other games wouldn't work all that well i think.

 

7680x1440 would be around 37% larger than 4k sooo..

[Streetguru]

3 minutes ago, Tjubes said:

I like video editing and playing around with photoshop. Also just like to have a monitor that's a bit future proof i guess. And do you mean a R9 Nano can't handle that or that it would be overkill?

The nano would be overkill, but like I said, you could get a 144hz display, which would be great for gaming, especially with free-sync, just that the color accuracy won't be there with TN

"

or you could get a 380 with a 144hz Free-sync display potentially

280 euros for a 144hz 1080p TN free-sync display

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/aoc-monitor-g2460pf"

[FloRolf]

Just now, Streetguru said:

The nano would be overkill, but like I said

"

or you could get a 380 with a 144hz Free-sync display potentially

280 euros for a 144hz 1080p TN free-sync display

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/aoc-monitor-g2460pf"

i wouldn't get a cheapo TN panel if i were serious about video editing and photoshop...

[Streetguru]

12 minutes ago, FloRolf said:

i wouldn't get a cheapo TN panel if i were serious about video editing and photoshop...

It doesn't seem too bad given that it's a TN panel, and a secondary 1080p IPS display can be had on the cheap later on

http://www.play3r.net/reviews/monitors-reviews/aoc-g2460pf-24-144hz-freesync-1080p-monitor-review/2/

[FloRolf]

1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

It doesn't seem too bad given that it's a TN panel, and a secondary 1080p IPS display can be had on the cheap later on

http://www.play3r.net/reviews/monitors-reviews/aoc-g2460pf-24-144hz-freesync-1080p-monitor-review/2/

That's after it has been calibrated with a 150€ tool so....

And he is talking about 1440p which imho is an awesome step up from 1080p for workspace alone.

[Streetguru]

1 minute ago, FloRolf said:

That's after it has been calibrated with a 150€ tool so....

And he is talking about 1440p which imho is an awesome step up from 1080p for workspace alone.

for CS:GO a 144hz display can be fairly useful to have if gaming is the main focus.

"Out of the box, the difference between stock and after calibration of this sample wasn’t substantial, which shows pretty good out of the box performance."

[FloRolf]

2 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

for CS:GO a 144hz display can be fairly useful to have if gaming is the main focus.

"Out of the box, the difference between stock and after calibration of this sample wasn’t substantial, which shows pretty good out of the box performance."

Depends on the person. I for mine don't actually see a ton of difference between my monitors (120hz vs 60hz).

I guess @OP should just check out some monitors in a store or something and maybe even play at them to see/not see a difference.

Personally i'd go for a 60hz 1440p over a 120hz 1080p any freaking day.

[Patrick Bateman]

2 minutes ago, FloRolf said:

Depends on the person. I for mine don't actually see a ton of difference between my monitors (120hz vs 60hz).

I guess @OP should just check out some monitors in a store or something and maybe even play at them to see/not see a difference.

Personally i'd go for a 60hz 1440p over a 120hz 1080p any freaking day.

wow for me it is immediatly noticeable.. it makes a huge difference

i would go for 1080p 120/144hz any day over 1440p 60hz

[Streetguru]

22 minutes ago, FloRolf said:

Depends on the person. I for mine don't actually see a ton of difference between my monitors (120hz vs 60hz).

It's going to depend mostly on weather the focus is gaming or productivity, it's too bad there isn't any 60Hz 1440p IPS free-sync displays available yet

[Tjubes]

@FloRolf I guess I'll just go to a store then, to see what suits me best.

Is it worth it to get a 6600k together with a 970 instead of the 1232 together with the R9 Nano and spent the money on a H170 Deluxe motherboard? @TYCriswell2

[TYCriswell2]

1 minute ago, Tjubes said:

@FloRolf I guess I'll just go to a store then, to see what suits me best.

Is it worth it to get a 6600k together with a 970 instead of the 1232 together with the R9 Nano and spent the money on a H170 Deluxe motherboard? @TYCriswell2

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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Z6xPjX just take a look at this.

[TYCriswell2]

Just now, TYCriswell2 said:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Z6xPjX just take a look at this.

if you don't have enough money you can downgrade to a 970.