G3258 good for this?

[XplosiveNoctua99]

So, I'm building a PC for my dad's friends who have a REALLY old PC. 

I am choosing the parts, and they DON'T need a water cooled pc with 12 Gpu's and an 8 Core cpu with 12Ghz (I'm basically saying they don't need a beast...)

 

anyway.

they will be using it for...

 

Viewing Photos

Making documents (they are teachers)

Emails

and browsing the web

 

So is the G3258 good enough for this or should i go with an i3 ? or even an AMD CPU??

 

Thanks

[GDRRiley]

a APU would be good for what they do.

[DunePilot]

So, I'm building a PC for my dad's friends who have a REALLY old PC. 

I am choosing the parts, and they DON'T need a water cooled pc with 12 Gpu's and an 8 Core cpu with 12Ghz (I'm basically saying they don't need a beast...)

 

anyway.

they will be using it for...

 

Viewing Photos

Making documents (they are teachers)

Emails

and browsing the web

 

So is the G3258 good enough for this or should i go with an i3 ? or even an AMD CPU??

 

Thanks

 

I just built one for a Christmas gift to my dad for CAD work, it definitely can handle web browsing. I have yet to overclock it but even at stock clocks it can handle and is actually overkill for anything I have thrown at it, including the CAD.

[XplosiveNoctua99]

a APU would be good for what they do.

ok.....

hmm if i do go for intel. (which i probably will) will a GPU render photos quicker??

[Peter Vaughan Truslow]

So, I'm building a PC for my dad's friends who have a REALLY old PC. 

I am choosing the parts, and they DON'T need a water cooled pc with 12 Gpu's and an 8 Core cpu with 12Ghz (I'm basically saying they don't need a beast...)

 

anyway.

they will be using it for...

 

Viewing Photos

Making documents (they are teachers)

Emails

and browsing the web

 

So is the G3258 good enough for this or should i go with an i3 ? or even an AMD CPU??

 

Thanks

for people who are doing general computing, I usually go with an I3. they're capable chips that will have pretty long usable life. the G3258 is a powerful chip for it's price, but without overclocking it, it's not very competitive.

[DunePilot]

Rendering is CPU based. You could get around in the programs GUI quicker though. I went with a 950 G1 gaming for $180... I could have gotten something $50 cheaper and still exceeded his needs but I wanted something that would look really good in the bulid and that card had a backplate and LEDs. For that same $180ish you could get an AMD R9 380 that would have a little bit better performance but I personally would rather have Nvidia. As long as he keeps a PC I wanted something that was really sexy and functional and will remain overkill for years to come. Total cost was around $550, I already had the cooler and ram laying around.

 

 

For what they are doing... it doesn't sound like you even need a GPU, you could probably build one for around $300-$400.

[GDRRiley]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/kssC7P that should work

[XplosiveNoctua99]

for people who are doing general computing, I usually go with an I3. they're capable chips that will have pretty long usable life. the G3258 is a powerful chip for it's price, but without overclocking it, it's not very competitive.

there is a $70 difference between a G3258 ($99) and i3 4170 ($169)

is that worth it?

[XplosiveNoctua99]

Rendering is CPU based. You could get around in the programs GUI quicker though. I went with a 950 G1 gaming for $180... I could have gotten something $50 cheaper and still exceeded his needs but I wanted something that would look really good in the bulid and that card had a backplate and LEDs. For that same $180ish you could get an AMD R9 380 that would have a little bit better performance but I personally would rather have Nvidia. As long as he keeps a PC I wanted something that was really sexy and functional and will remain overkill for years to come. Total cost was around $550, I already had the cooler and ram laying around.

 

 

For what they are doing... it doesn't sound like you even need a GPU, you could probably build one for around $400.

so, for what they want. will they need a gpu?

[DunePilot]

so, for what they want. will they need a gpu?

It doesn't really sound like they do...

 

If they find that they do, they can always add it as an afterthought. $120-220 should get them more than enough.

[XplosiveNoctua99]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/kssC7P that should work

barely any of these parts are that ceap in Australia lol

[XplosiveNoctua99]

It doesn't really sound like they do...

ok

[Peter Vaughan Truslow]

there is a $70 difference between a G3258 ($99) and i3 4170 ($169)

is that worth it?

I think that depends on what caliber of other parts are going into the machine. maybe

I was confused by the prices at first, then I realized you were in AUD.

I've seen the G3258 go as low as $35 USD as a combo with a motherboard, and $55USD is pretty common

[Curufinwe_wins]

Yea I'd personally recommend either a i3 4170 or a FX-6300 but if you get the 6300 please make sure to get a mobo with more up to date feature sets.

 

The additional two threads actually make a huge difference in multitasking these days (even something like web browsing while watching a video or something.)

 

After all, no half-way decent mobile chip comes without hyperthreading anymore (the new quad core i5-6xxx is literally the only exception in like 5 generations of intel chips).

[XplosiveNoctua99]

I think that depends on what caliber of other parts are going into the machine. maybe

I was confused by the prices at first, then I realized you were in AUD.

I've seen the G3258 go as low as $35 USD as a combo with a motherboard, and $55USD is pretty common

nice. that's like $9999 australian dollars  

[XplosiveNoctua99]

Yea I'd personally recommend either a i3 4170 or a FX-6300 but if you get the 6300 please make sure to get a mobo with more up to date feature sets.

i'll let you know the price of the 6300

 

It is $10 cheaper ($159)

Edited December 16, 2015 by XplosiveNoctua99

[DunePilot]

I'll throw together my parts list, you could cut corners by no gpu, cheaper case, cheaper power supply. You can get a 600 or 650 watt EVGA off Amazon with a rebate for like $30 bucks sometimes.. I paid $80 to get the fully modular one... like I said. I paid a little bit of a premium because its for my dad and I wanted to get him something I myself would be proud of. If its just for a family friend for surfing the net then saving a couple hundred bucks is probably more along their lines of thinking. So depending on what you go with $300-650 (or cash strapped college kid) probably for a really decent mom and pop build, no idea what that equates to down under in Kangaroo land though.

If you want I will try to get you a list in the next 30 minutes or so.

[Memories4K]

OP get your father an APU from AMD and an SSD.

 

For what he'll be using it for, any quad-core and an SSD are the only real things that he'd really benefit from.

[Curufinwe_wins]

i'll let you know the price of the 6300

 

It is $10 cheaper ($159)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i3-4160 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($152.00 @ CPL Online) 

Motherboard: ASRock H81M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($68.00 @ CPL Online) 

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($59.00 @ IJK) 

Storage: OCZ Trion 100 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($108.00 @ CPL Online) 

Case: Silverstone PS09B MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($45.00 @ Storm Computers) 

Power Supply: Silverstone Strider Essential 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  ($58.00 @ IJK) 

Total: $490.00

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-16 17:29 AEDT+1100

 

Has front usb 3.0 which honestly is the most important feature in a build like this. Everything else will work well. No need for a graphics card ofc.

 

Get OS from r/microsoftsoftwareswap

[Curufinwe_wins]

OP get your father an APU from AMD and an SSD.

 

For what he'll be using it for, any quad-core and an SSD are the only real things that he'd really benefit from.

APU isn't actually much cheaper unfortunately in AUD once you factor in much more expensive mobo to get USB 3.0 etc.

 

AMD build:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: AMD A8-7600 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($122.99 @ Mwave Australia) 

Motherboard: MSI A78M-E35 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard  ($79.00 @ Centre Com) 

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($59.00 @ IJK) 

Storage: OCZ Trion 100 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($108.00 @ CPL Online) 

Case: Silverstone PS09B MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($45.00 @ Storm Computers) 

Power Supply: Silverstone Strider Essential 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  ($58.00 @ IJK) 

Total: $471.99

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-16 17:31 AEDT+1100

 

For 20 AUD more, I'd personally recommend the intel cpu.

[XplosiveNoctua99]

I'll throw together my parts list, you could cut corners by no gpu, cheaper case, cheaper power supply. You can get a 600 or 650 watt EVGA off Amazon with a rebate for like $30 bucks sometimes.. I paid $80 to get the fully modular one... like I said. I paid a little bit of a premium because its for my dad and I wanted to get him something I myself would be proud of. If its just for a family friend for surfing the net then saving a couple hundred bucks is probably more along their lines of thinking. So depending on what you go with $300-650 (or cash strapped college kid) probably for a really decent mom and pop build, no idea what that equates to down under in Kangaroo land though.

If you want I will try to get you a list in the next 30 minutes or so.

well, no amazon. i am Australian. they ship barely anything here and everything is 10X mnore expensive and sadly... shipping is $99999999

[Memories4K]

 

APU isn't actually much cheaper unfortunately in AUD once you factor in much more expensive mobo to get USB 3.0 etc.

 

AMD build:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: AMD A8-7600 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($122.99 @ Mwave Australia) 

Motherboard: MSI A78M-E35 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard  ($79.00 @ Centre Com) 

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($59.00 @ IJK) 

Storage: OCZ Trion 100 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($108.00 @ CPL Online) 

Case: Silverstone PS09B MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($45.00 @ Storm Computers) 

Power Supply: Silverstone Strider Essential 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  ($58.00 @ IJK) 

Total: $471.99

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-16 17:31 AEDT+1100

 

For 20 AUD more, I'd personally recommend the intel cpu.

 

Australia is a ridiculous country, i apologize.

[DunePilot]

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[PCPartPicker part list](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xGwX4D) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xGwX4D/by_merchant/)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646g3258) | $62.99 @ Amazon
**CPU Cooler** | [Corsair H80i GT 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-cpu-cooler-cw9060017ww) | $79.99 @ Newegg
**Motherboard** | [Gigabyte GA-Z97MX-Gaming 5 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaz97mxgaming5) | $109.99 @ SuperBiiz
**Memory** | [G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f32133c9d8gxl) | $38.99 @ Newegg
**Storage** | [Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/kingston-internal-hard-drive-sv300s37a120g) | $39.99 @ Amazon
**Video Card** | [Gigabyte GeForce GTX 950 2GB Video Card](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvn950xtreme2gd) | $173.98 @ Newegg
**Case** | [Fractal Design Define S w/Window ATX Mid Tower Case](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/fractal-design-case-fdcadefsbkw) | $69.99 @ Newegg
**Power Supply** | [EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-220g20650y1) | $74.98 @ Newegg
 | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
 | Total (before mail-in rebates) | $680.90
 | Mail-in rebates | -$30.00
 | **Total** | **$650.90**
 | Generated by [PCPartPicker](http://pcpartpicker.com) 2015-12-16 01:35 EST-0500 |

[XplosiveNoctua99]

OP get your father an APU from AMD and an SSD.

 

For what he'll be using it for, any quad-core and an SSD are the only real things that he'd really benefit from.

It is for my dad's friend

[Curufinwe_wins]

Australia is a ridiculous country, i apologize.

I didn't believe it either until I filtered the shit and checked.

 

 

It is for my dad's friend

Those two builds I linked are honestly about the best things I can think of and are super price optimized.

 

Even casual users will massively appreciate the SSD over an HDD due to snappiness overall. Plus the casual user probably doesn't need huge storage space.