AMD 2014-2015 roadmap update

[GoodBytes]

AMD is updating it's road-map for 2014-2015 to reflect market changes.

 

 

The company is expected to unveil its next-generation "Volcanic Islands" GPU family by late-September, 2013. In the first quarter of 2014, the company is expected to unveil its 4th generation entry-level APUs, codenamed "Kabini." Built in ST3 socket for notebooks, and FS1B for desktops, this product family will include dual- and quad-core parts, with TDPs under 25W. Among the quad-core parts are the A4-5350 and A4-5150, and among the dual-core ones is the E1-2650.

"Kabini" will enter mass-production in February 2014, and will be formally announced in the following month. Kabini's early-2014 launch, delayed from late-2013, will have a cascading effect on its successor's launch. "Beema," its successor, will now launch in either late-2014, or early-2015. "Beema" will be based on the same socket types as "Kabini," but will incorporate more HSA technologies.

In 2014 AMD's AM3 socket will retire after a 5-year run at the markets, as would its first APU socket, FM1. By the end of 2013, APUs would amount for 70 percent of AMD processors, while CPUs (chips devoid of on-die graphics), will amount for 30 percent. In 2015, AMD plans to launch "Carrizo," an APU that uses CPU cores based on AMD's next-generation "Excavator" micro-architecture. While Intel "tick-tocks" its product development cycle on two factors, CPU micro-architecture and silicon-fab process; AMD's own "tick-tock" could follow succeeding CPU and GPU micro-architectures.

 

Source: http://www.techpowerup.com/189707/amd-updates-product-roadmap-for-2014-2015.html

[TheSLSAMG]

So, I guess the FX processors really are dead?

[Coombzy]

AM3 retiring I do hope its time for AM4 not them getting rid of it completely.

[Air tree]

If we get AM4 this could mean good things on the amd side of things cpu wise.

[Vitalius]

So, I guess the FX processors really are dead?

 

Yep... well kinda. I fully expect the APUs to be melded with the FX processors at some point. Basically have a processor like what the consoles have (8 core APU) but at a higher frequency. That would be awesome.

AM3 retiring I do hope its time for AM4 not them getting rid of it completely.

If we get AM4 this could mean good things on the amd side of things cpu wise.

Indeed.

I am eyeing AMD's stock (currently dropping steadily). This makes me excited for investing for the future. Having a product to carry them through the Holidays (Volcanic Island) and through the beginning of next year (Kabini), things are looking good on that front, so long as the APUs are awesome.

[Guest GRRigger]

am4 steamroller in early 2014 would be kinda awesome

[Bingbing10]

So do I still get the 8350 over the 4670k

[lhikary]

amd should stick to GPU's and APU's

Intel is WaaaaAAyy too strong

[Skanic]

amd should stick to GPU's and APU's

Intel is WaaaaAAyy too strong

It isn't?

AMD has much better multi core architecture than intel.

Intel is focused on single threaded cores and adds hyper threading to being able to beat amd in multi core stuff.

The reason Intel is winning is because most programs are designed to be run on a single core instead of multiple cores.

I think its very likely that we will see the steam roller becoming great , the performance improvements they made on bulldozer to piledriver were quite good and i think that steamroller will finally bring amd back on its feet.

[Coombzy]

amd should stick to GPU's and APU's

Intel is WaaaaAAyy too strong

not really on most price points AMD is a better value except maybe i7 pricing and it used to be AMD were the best that might happen again we don't know.

[Lauen]

wonder why it doesn't say a single thing about new CPUs... 

[Ultimate_PIMP]

wonder why it doesn't say a single thing about new CPUs... 

Yah apu's suck.

 

It kind of scares me that amd is so enthusiastic about them.

[Vitalius]

wonder why it doesn't say a single thing about new CPUs...

Because AMD's primary goal appears to be to replace their CPUs with APUs in the long term.

This will make their computing power grow quite a bit because CPU cores are better at Integer calculations while GPU cores are better at Floating Point calculations. Having a dedicated GPU section of the APU for Floating Point calculations frees up the CPU side to do more Integer calculations in general. Specializing will enable the processors to be more powerful in general.

This appears to be their long term goal. At least it makes the most logical sense. APUs, in the end, will not be specifically for low budget gaming machines, but will enable high end processing power to be even better. That is the idea anyway.

Do not be all doom and gloom. What it appears they are doing sounds very promising and appears to have a lot of potential.

 

Yah apu's suck.

 

It kind of scares me that amd is so enthusiastic about them.

Read this post.

[Frix]

I can't wait for AM4, they have been using AM3+ for the higher end cpu's for so long now and I really want to see what they can do with a brand new architecture.

[Dravic]

It isn't?

AMD has much better multi core architecture than intel.

Intel is focused on single threaded cores and adds hyper threading to being able to beat amd in multi core stuff.

The reason Intel is winning is because most programs are designed to be run on a single core instead of multiple cores.

I think its very likely that we will see the steam roller becoming great , the performance improvements they made on bulldozer to piledriver were quite good and i think that steamroller will finally bring amd back on its feet.

 

Man you really believe that? Explain to me what are 8 core Xeons doing in Intel ARK database? And more-core Xeons?

 

They have superior single thread and multithread, it's just they arent releasing 8 cores for consumers that dont need them/cant afford them.

[Ultimate_PIMP]

Because AMD's primary goal appears to be to replace their CPUs with APUs in the long term.

This will make their computing power grow quite a bit because CPU cores are better at Integer calculations while GPU cores are better at Floating Point calculations. Having a dedicated GPU section of the APU for Floating Point calculations frees up the CPU side to do more Integer calculations in general. Specializing will enable the processors to be more powerful in general.

This appears to be their long term goal. At least it makes the most logical sense. APUs, in the end, will not be specifically for low budget gaming machines, but will enable high end processing power to be even better. That is the idea anyway.

Do not be all doom and gloom. What it appears they are doing sounds very promising and appears to have a lot of potential.

 

Read this post.

 

Huh, i've never heard that before.

When apu's can start doing what you described and they are actually powerful, than i'd be all about that. 

 

The idea sounds great, and makes total sense. Hopefully that happens soon.

Where did you hear about that? I'd like to read the article, or whatever it was.

[Vitalius]

Huh, i've never heard that before.

When apu's can start doing what you described and they are actually powerful, than i'd be all about that. 

 

The idea sounds great, and makes total sense. Hopefully that happens soon.

Where did you hear about that? I'd like to read the article, or whatever it was.

It was not an article, it was a thread of research. 

Here you go.

 

Read the whole thread.

[PuNkPoEtS]

Man you really believe that? Explain to me what are 8 core Xeons doing in Intel ARK database? And more-core Xeons?

They have superior single thread and multithread, it's just they arent releasing 8 cores for consumers that dont need them/cant afford them.

Have you not heard of an AMD opteron as it has 16 cores and is a massive hitter in the server world

[Vitalius]

Have you not heard of an AMD opteron as it has 16 cores and is a massive hitter in the server world

This. Plus AMD can produce 8 cores that are cheaper than Xeon's even if they do not perform as well. More cores for less cost is best and AMD is good at it.

[Dravic]

This. Plus AMD can produce 8 cores that are cheaper than Xeon's even if they do not perform as well. More cores for less cost is best and AMD is good at it.

 

Have you not heard of an AMD opteron as it has 16 cores and is a massive hitter in the server world

 

Have you not heard of...

 

Intel Phi for supercomputing?

 

Man we can discuss this or get over it. Opterons were good back in Phenom II days, nowadays, not so much. Slower than Intel cores and draw more power. Thats usually what servers care about. The prices are irrelevant for most servers, they want servers to just work. Im seriously not biased against AMD but their offerings arent that good.

But yes i agree FX series has no place in desktop but in server market they sure get some sales, i do not deny that!

[FireFox]

So, I guess the FX processors really are dead?

 

Good, is all I have to say about that

 

Rock on APU's

[Simmytu]

I knew that was going to happen 

Well APU's are the future for AMD  

 

They were talking about AM3 not AM3+ sockets, that's the only confusing part of this article. Okay I'm a bit confused here

Edited August 27, 2013 by Simmytu

[Opsilon]

Wow, i am really sad now... i was supposed to buy the next gen FX i really like how this gen is doing and i taught i would upgrade for the 1st time in my life to an AMD system, 8 cores and all that... now i have to go intel ( again ) if i want performance... the APU-s should not work well as the FX, they are low end and i would be surprised if they do some meaningful scores vs the FX series. Guess it's Ivy -e quad core for me...

[Vitalius]

Wow, i am really sad now... i was supposed to buy the next gen FX i really like how this gen is doing and i taught i would upgrade for the 1st time in my life to an AMD system, 8 cores and all that... now i have to go intel ( again ) if i want performance... the APU-s should not work well as the FX, they are low end and i would be surprised if they do some meaningful scores vs the FX series. Guess it's Ivy -e quad core for me...

That is exactly the mentality that I think will be wrong when the APUs get here.

If, somehow, Kabuni (dat name) is not very powerful, the next iteration will definitely be. 

Simply put, I fully expect APU's to replace CPU's in the 2-5 year future for AMD. Imagine FX processors, but as APUs and you will get it. 

[ACatWithThumbs]

That is exactly the mentality that I think will be wrong when the APUs get here.

If, somehow, Kabuni (dat name) is not very powerful, the next iteration will definitely be. 

Simply put, I fully expect APU's to replace CPU's in the 2-5 year future for AMD. Imagine FX processors, but as APUs and you will get it. 

But why do you need an APU when you already have an Powerfull GPU?

To buy a normal CPU would be the better way.