AMD FX 8350 Temperatures

[Kristallnacht]

Hi! I just bought my PC last month and I'm just wondering if my CPU temps are still normal

Specs:
CPU: AMD FX 8350 (Using the stock cooler)

Motherboard: MSI 970A-G43
Memory: 8gb HyperX (1 stick)

Video Card: MSI GTX 970 4GD5T OC
Hard Drive: Seagate 1tb
PSU:600w 
When normal usage I get 40-50 Celsius
When playing games I get 60-80 Celsius

are these temps still considered normal?


 

[Benji_w]

Hi! I just bought my PC last month and I'm just wondering if my CPU temps are still normal

Specs:

CPU: AMD FX 8350 (Using the stock cooler)

Motherboard: MSI 970A-G43

Memory: 8gb HyperX (1 stick)

Video Card: MSI GTX 970 4GD5T OC

Hard Drive: Seagate 1tb

PSU:600w 

When normal usage I get 40-50 Celsius

When playing games I get 60-80 Celsius

are these temps still considered normal?

 

 

You're probably reading socket temp, normal? no, normal for that board? maybe.

[Morgan MLGman]

You wouldn't get 80 degrees Celsius cause it would throttle at 70, something is wrong. Regardless, the temps are still too high. Try remounting the cooler and reapplying TIM

The motherboard is bad so don't even try any overclocking. (Just an advice for the future)

[yannickverc]

With the stock cooler they sure are. They're pretty good for stock AMD cooling even.

[LeeWonky]

Is it your CPU thats getting that hot when playing games?

[Benji_w]

You wouldn't get 80 degrees Celsius cause it would throttle at 70, something is wrong. Regardless, the temps are still too high. Try remounting the cooler and reapplying TIM

 

He has an MSI motherboard, socket temps read a lot higher on them.

[yannickverc]

You wouldn't get 80 degrees Celsius cause it would throttle at 70, something is wrong. Regardless, the temps are still too high. Try remounting the cooler and reapplying TIM

AMD throttles at 70?

[Benji_w]

AMD throttles at 70?

 

On the socket yes, it can be turned off by enabling HPC mode in the bios on most boards.

[Morgan MLGman]

AMD throttles at 70?

Yep, the chips are designed that way. You can't really go past 70 degrees. That is why "AMD CPUs are hot" argument is retarded. They're not "hot", they put more heat out of your PC cause of larger heatspreaders, but they don't get as hot as Intel counterparts which can get up to 100 degrees sometimes as they would probably break at that temp

[Morgan MLGman]

He has an MSI motherboard, socket temps read a lot higher on them.

His motherboard is literally one of the cheapest AM3+ 970chipset boards with no VRM heatsink and 4+1 power phase, I wouldn't be too suprised if the CPU throttled at stock speeds

[Benji_w]

Yep, the chips are designed that way. You can't really go past 70 degrees. That is why "AMD CPUs are hot" argument is retarded. They're not "hot", they put more heat out of your PC cause of larger heatspreaders, but they don't get as hot as Intel counterparts which can get up to 100 degrees sometimes as they would probably break at that temp

 

No they actually produce more heat, and the throttling is done by the motherboard not the CPU.

[yannickverc]

On the socket yes, it can be turned off by enabling HPC mode in the bios on most boards.

Oh TIL, nice.

 

Yep, the chips are designed that way. You can't really go past 70 degrees. That is why "AMD CPUs are hot" argument is retarded. They're not "hot", they put more heat out of your PC cause of larger heatspreaders, but they don't get as hot as Intel counterparts which can get up to 100 degrees sometimes

Intel can go up to 100 indeed but I don't think many chip go that high with aftermarket cooling

[Morgan MLGman]

No they actually produce more heat, and the throttling is done by the motherboard not the CPU.

Yeah, but they're not "hotter" themselves since they throttle @70

[Kristallnacht]

Any suggestions that actions I must do?

[Ophidio]

With the stock cooler they sure are. They're pretty good for stock AMD cooling even.

No those aren't good for stock cooling, even on an 8350. I have an 8350 and before I bought my liquid cooler I had mine overclocked with a stock cooler and the CPU never got over 75C at 4.5Ghz. 40-50 for normal use is high. From my experience with a stock cooler on the CPU it should get anywhere from 30-40C normal use, 55-65 possibly 70 when gaming or heavy load. You should definitely try reapplying some thermal compound or getting an aftermarket cooler. 

 

You should also look into getting a new motherboard, 970 motherboards arent the best for AMD FX 8-Cores, you really should have a 990FX chipset motherboard for the 8350. 

[Benji_w]

Yeah, but they're not "hotter" themselves since they throttle @70

 

Mine doesn't throttle... because I turn the motherboard feature off...

 

 

Any suggestions that actions I must do?

 

Aftermarket heatsink and better case fans for improved airflow.

[Ophidio]

Yeah, but they're not "hotter" themselves since they throttle @70

I really think the whole throttling at 70 degrees thing is just luck.. I've never had any problems with mine throttling at 70 degrees. Usually mine doesn't start giving me issues until i hit somewhere between 80-85 and even then it's just minuscule issues. 

[Kristallnacht]

Mine doesn't throttle... because I turn the motherboard feature off...

 

 

 

Aftermarket heatsink and better case fans for improved airflow.

I plan to get the 

Cooler Master Hyper 212x soon. Would that do?

[Benji_w]

 

I plan to get the 

Cooler Master Hyper 212x soon. Would that do?

 

 

No, get something better, you're dealing with a very hot CPU not a cold intel cpu.

[Benji_w]

I really think the whole throttling at 70 degrees thing is just luck.. I've never had any problems with mine throttling at 70 degrees. Usually mine doesn't start giving me issues until i hit somewhere between 80-85 and even then it's just minuscule issues. 

 

It isn't luck, there is socket throttling and VRM thermal throttling on FX range boards. MSI socket temps tend to be higher for some reason and end up throttling sooner.

[Ophidio]

 

I plan to get the 

Cooler Master Hyper 212x soon. Would that do?

 

I would recommend at least a 120mm AIO Liquid Cooler. Or something from Noctua, but you really should try and reaplly thermal compound too and see if that fixes it with the stock cooler. 

[Ophidio]

It isn't luck, there is socket throttling and VRM thermal throttling on FX range boards. MSI socket temps tend to be higher for some reason and end up throttling sooner.

Then I would say Asus has proven to be the better board for FX processors. If you don't have the issue as you've stated before and I don't have the issue then Asus is the way to go with FX CPUs. 

[tbake0155]

Then I would say Asus has proven to be the better board for FX processors. If you don't have the issue as you've stated before and I don't have the issue then Asus is the way to go with FX CPUs. 

 

You're pushing your 8350 to 85!?  I could hit 5.4 GHz if I was willing to do that.

[The Knome]

Socket temps by the looks of it, core temp always shows lower, but its supposed to be synthesised so some debate on accuracy.
Pushing it, a 240 rad water cooler it can run at 100% all day and be kept within 65c (socket) without ear bleeding levels of noise.

[Ophidio]

You're pushing your 8350 to 85!?  I could hit 5.4 GHz if I was willing to do that.

I'm not pushing it to that, it's very rare that it ever hits that. It's only happened like 4 times since I bought the CPU and it's always been after gaming for 14 hours straight on the system. Normally under heavy load i never go over 65-70C but still, even at 70 I've never had any problems with the CPU throttling.