6700 vs 6700k

[Venomz1337]

I'm just interested to know why there's a £100~ difference between the two?

I don't see why you'd pay £100 to get 10% more performance at most (don't quote me on that as I know nothing). 

 

Is there something obvious I'm missing?

 

 

[yannickverc]

The K is unlocked. Base it has 10% more performance, but you can overclock it more and get maybe 40-50% increase in performance

[Jerakl]

One you can overclock and one you can't.

Which is what I assume you're referring to as the 10% performance boost.

 

That and Intel charges huge price premiums and get away with it because who the hell buys an AMD CPU?

[Venomz1337]

The K is unlocked. Base it has 10% more performance, but you can overclock it more and get maybe 40-50% increase in performance

 

There's no fucking way you're getting that much more performance out of an overclock.

[Coaxialgamer]

K means it's unlocked and can be OCed to 5ghz or high if you have adequate cooling. Also the 6700k has a 400mhz higher nominal stock clock speed.

[lx_srs]

I'm just interested to know why there's a £100~ difference between the two?

I don't see why you'd pay £100 to get 10% more performance at most (don't quote me on that as I know nothing). 

 

Is there something obvious I'm missing?

The K is fully unlocked.  You can overclock it and get much higher performance.....

[Venomz1337]

K means it's unlocked and can be OCed to 5ghz or high if you have adequate cooling. Also the 6700k has a 400mhz higher nominal stock clock speed.

 

But how does that justify the £100 more price tag?

Also, I've not seen any 5Ghz not to mention any over that. I still don't think an overclock will get you that much more performance.

[Venomz1337]

The K is fully unlocked.  You can overclock it and get much higher performance.....

 

Much higher meaning with an overclock you can get 33% more performance? I call bullshit.

[MageTank]

The K is unlocked. Base it has 10% more performance, but you can overclock it more and get maybe 40-50% increase in performance

Let me clarify for OP. It is not a "40-50% increase in performance". You can overclock the 6700k's clock speed by about 40% higher than the 6700. The 6700's base clock speed is 3400mhz, while the 6700k can be overclocked to around 4600-4700mhz (roughly a 40% overclock over the standard 6700's base clock) on average. However, this will not translate to a raw 40% performance difference between these CPU's. More realistically, you will see about a 15% difference in performance from these two in CPU intensive games. 

[yannickverc]

There's no fucking way you're getting that much more performance out of an overclock.

Yea 40-50 is maybe a little too much. But 25-30 at best should be a possible goal. an increase in percentage in the GPU/CPU world is expensive bro

[Venomz1337]

That and Intel charges huge price premiums and get away with it because who the hell buys an AMD CPU?

 

That makes more sense. No way is it worth £100 more.

This to me just seems like a gimmick to get people to pay more. In my eyes, you're not more of an enthusiast whether you overclock or not. That's like remapping a car. It doesn't mean you like cars more than others just because you're making the engine work more than it was intended to do.

[Venomz1337]

Let me clarify for OP. It is not a "40-50% increase in performance". You can overclock the 6700k's clock speed by about 40% higher than the 6700. The 6700's base clock speed is 3400mhz, while the 6700k can be overclocked to around 4600-4700mhz (roughly a 40% overclock over the standard 6700's base clock) on average. However, this will not translate to a raw 40% performance difference between these CPU's. More realistically, you will see about a 15% difference in performance from these two in CPU intensive games. 

 

That was pretty much my point, he made no sense in that statement. But then again, I still don't see why 33% more money equates to 15% more performance. Numbers just don't add up. 

[Coaxialgamer]

But how does that justify the £100 more price tag?

Also, I've not seen any 5Ghz not to mention any over that. I still don't think an overclock will get you that much more performance.

http://wccftech.com/intel-core-i7-6700k-skylake-overclocked-52-ghz-air-cooling-135v/

 

Also , the 6700k , as it's overclockable , is a higher end chip , which means it goes for a higher price because of binning.

[Venomz1337]

http://wccftech.com/intel-core-i7-6700k-skylake-overclocked-52-ghz-air-cooling-135v/

 

Also , the 6700k , as it's overclockable , is a higher end chip , which means it goes for a higher price because of binning.

 

Impressive. Still don't see why it costs so much more.

[MageTank]

That was pretty much my point, he made no sense in that statement. But then again, I still don't see why 33% more money equates to 15% more performance. Numbers just don't add up. 

It's 33% more money in your country maybe, but in the US, the price difference is only $38. 11% difference in price. Intel lists its MSRP at $312 for the 6700, and 6700k at $350. 

 

However, i can go to a store right now, and get a 6700k for $330. http://www.microcenter.com/product/451883/core_i7-6700k_40ghz_lga_1151_boxed_processor

I can get a 6700 for $320. http://www.microcenter.com/product/453910/Core_i7-6700_34GHz_LGA_1151_Boxed_Processor

 

Understand, prices vary by region. For you, going to a 6700k might not be worth it, but for me, the $10 price difference? I would be a fool not to get the 6700k.

[Coaxialgamer]

Impressive. Still don't see why it costs so much more.

I guess it comes down to intel wanting people to pay more for features that are pretty much locked behind a pay wall .

They can do this because they feel amd poses no threat in terms of competition , so why not make people pay more?

[FunkyFeatures]

http://wccftech.com/intel-core-i7-6700k-skylake-overclocked-52-ghz-air-cooling-135v/

 

Also , the 6700k , as it's overclockable , is a higher end chip , which means it goes for a higher price because of binning.

This is far from every 6700K being able to do this. My friend's 6700K simply hits a barrier at 4.3. It does not go higher regardless of what voltage he runs. So the binning part is not exactly true. Look at silliconlottery.com and you will see the voltage all the way at 1.4 before reaching anything close to 5GHZ.

[Coaxialgamer]

This is far from every 6700K being able to do this. My friend's 6700K simply hits a barrier at 4.3. It does not go higher regardless of what voltage he runs.

well yeah , but this is the first link that came to mind , and i assume most 6700k's are able to reach at last 4.8 with adequate cooling .

[MageTank]

This is far from every 6700K being able to do this. My friend's 6700K simply hits a barrier at 4.3. It does not go higher regardless of what voltage he runs. So the binning part is not exactly true. Look at silliconlottery.com and you will see the voltage all the way at 1.4 before reaching anything close to 5GHZ.

Umm, 1.4v is considered safe for Skylake. In fact, some people are saying 1.45v is safe (Intel gave that number to the people apparently, @Lays)

 

Maybe your friend did something wrong? Perhaps tell him not to load his memory's XMP profile if he is doing so, as the combination of IMC stress along with the overclock might cause instability? Either way, i have seen almost every 6700k i've run in to, hit 4.5ghz minimum. While i do not consider this a 100% fact, and your friend could very well be an unlucky person, but it is more common than not that the 6700k's can hit 4.5ghz under the right circumstances (proper cooling, decent motherboard, etc).

[FunkyFeatures]

well yeah , but this is the first link that came to mind , and i assume most 6700k's are able to reach at last 4.8 with adequate cooling .

It's wccftech... We see the hype every year, the 4790K overclocking was super hyped. I believe they even reported 6.7GHZ on water, which is rather stupid.

[Coaxialgamer]

It's wccftech... We see the hype every year, the 4790K overclocking was super hyped. I believe they even reported 6.7GHZ on water, which is rather stupid.

Yeah , that's really stupid though . 6.7 ghz , common ...