Posted November 3, 2015 I just ordered a GTX980, and I'm wondering how bad I will bottleneck it with a Phenom II 965 OC'd to 4.2 GHz. Will it be rediculous? Am I literally throwing money away unless I upgrade? In case it matters, my RAM is 8gb of DDR3 1600MHz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 3, 2015 Author Also, current graphics card is a gtx550tiEDIT: sorry I double posted, I'm not thinking right ATM, fever of 102. i don't see where i can delete it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 3, 2015 I just ordered a GTX980, and I'm wondering how bad I will bottleneck it with a Phenom II 965 OC'd to 4.2 GHz. Will it be rediculous? Am I literally throwing money away unless I upgrade? In case it matters, my RAM is 8gb of DDR3 1600MHz. That bottleneck is one of the biggest bottlenecks I've ever seen. It's worse than one of those troll PCPP lists with 4-way SLI Titan X' s and a FX-4350. Intel Core i7-6700K | Corsair H105 | Asus Z170I PRO GAMING | G.Skill TridentZ Series 16GB | 950 PRO 512GB M.2 Asus GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB STRIX OC | BitFenix Prodigy (Black/Red) | XFX PRO Black Edition 850W My Build | PCPartPicker | CoC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 3, 2015 considering I haven't heard of phenom since 2010, probably. were you going to upgrade anyways or? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 3, 2015 That bottleneck is one of the biggest bottlenecks I've ever seen. It's worse than one of those troll PCPP lists with 4-way SLI Titan X' s and a FX-4350. Pretty sure this isn't a serious post. I'm 99.78474129% sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 3, 2015 That bottleneck is one of the biggest bottlenecks I've ever seen. It's worse than one of those troll PCPP lists with 4-way SLI Titan X' s and a FX-4350. nope pentium 4 32bit and a gtx titan bottleneck supreme OFF TOPIC: I suggest every poll from now on to have "**CK EA" option instead of "Other" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 3, 2015 That bottleneck is one of the biggest bottlenecks I've ever seen. It's worse than one of those troll PCPP lists with 4-way SLI Titan X' s and a FX-4350. His CPU is better than an FX-4350 though. That said, the bottleneck is going to be really huge at 1080p, and you should get a new CPU ASAP @OP (You'll still get a performance gain in most games though.) RIP in pepperonis m8s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 3, 2015 Pretty sure this isn't a serious post. I'm 99.78474129% sure. and im 99.6969696996969696969696 sure too OFF TOPIC: I suggest every poll from now on to have "**CK EA" option instead of "Other" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 3, 2015 Phenom 2 x4 @4.2ghz is about the same performance as a i5 750 @ 3.6ghz. A 4690k at 3.5ghz is about 35% faster, clock for clock, compared to the lynnfield in cinebench. You will most definitely see a bottleneck, particularly in cpu bound games. The Phenom 2's were great cpus and cpu performance hasn't really progressed that quickly over the last 6 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 3, 2015 Mother of bottlenecks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 3, 2015 Author thanks for the replies. the way i see it i've got 2 options. i could buy an FX-8350 for about 175 bucks, and sacrifice longevity of relevance since it's a card from like 2013, or I can spend like 550 dollars on a skybridge 6500, a new mobo, new DDR4 ram, and a new psu, which all adds up to about $550 USD, but just came out.WAT DOEDIT: how bad will an 8350 bottleneck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 3, 2015 The motherboard will bottleneck it, probably running at pcie 1/2 speeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 3, 2015 Author The motherboard will bottleneck it, probably running at pcie 1/2 speeds. it's pcie gen2 x16 It's an AM3+ board, which is why im thinking about an 8350 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 3, 2015 it's pcie gen2 x16 It's an AM3+ board, which is why im thinking about an 8350 Yep bottleneck here for sure.1/2 the bandwidth you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 3, 2015 Author Yep bottleneck here for sure. 1/2 the bandwidth you have. should i get a more recent mobo and an 8350, (~250) or save up and get an i5-6500 and a new mobo/ddr4 ram/psu (~550) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 3, 2015 Get the mobo & cpu together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 3, 2015 Author will this fan fit an i5-6600? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835106150its the one i have at the momentif it does fit i might upgrade with a 6600 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 3, 2015 I just ordered a GTX980, and I'm wondering how bad I will bottleneck it with a Phenom II 965 OC'd to 4.2 GHz. Will it be rediculous? Am I literally throwing money away unless I upgrade? In case it matters, my RAM is 8gb of DDR3 1600MHz. If ul cpu can handle 60fps UK be fineIt won't matter if it bottle necks you from 180fps down to 70 fps so long as u hit the 60 fps for v sync Enable vsync and then crank graphics up to max and ul be gpu bound AMD (and proud) r7 1700 4ghz- also (1600) asus rog crosshairs vi hero x370- MSI 980ti G6 1506mhz slix2 - h110 pull - acer xb270hu 1440p - corsair 750D - corsair 16gb 2933 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 3, 2015 Yep bottleneck here for sure. 1/2 the bandwidth you have. Except games aren't even maxing out PCI-Express 2.0x16 slots, so that's not the concern. We're getting close to that point, but we haven't quite gotten there yet. Wife's build: Amethyst - Ryzen 9 3900X, 32GB G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4-3200, ASUS Prime X570-P, EVGA RTX 3080 FTW3 12GB, Corsair Obsidian 750D, Corsair RM1000 (yellow label) My build: Mira - Ryzen 7 3700X, 32GB EVGA DDR4-3200, ASUS Prime X470-PRO, EVGA RTX 3070 XC3, beQuiet Dark Base 900, EVGA 1000 G6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 3, 2015 I just ordered a GTX980, and I'm wondering how bad I will bottleneck it with a Phenom II 965 OC'd to 4.2 GHz. Will it be rediculous? Am I literally throwing money away unless I upgrade? In case it matters, my RAM is 8gb of DDR3 1600MHz. You'll definitely see a major performance improvement over what you've currently got, but don't sit on that processor/mainboard for too long. An FX-8350 will certainly be better compared to the 4-core Phenom you're currently sitting on, but you'd be better off setting money aside and going with Skylake or Haswell-E eventually. You don't need to worry about that right yet since the combination will still be quite capable, but probably within the next 12 months you'd probably want to make the switch to a newer platform. But since the GTX 980 costs less than changing over to Haswell-E or Skylake, or even Haswell for a comparable processor on core count, it's the more cost-effective upgrade, but hopefully the first step in an overall upgrade. Since you're coming off a GTX 550Ti, the only other immediate consideration is your power supply. Does it have enough of the right PCI-Express connectors for the GTX 980? If no, then that should be your next upgrade point. So you'll likely see some interesting performance artifacts as your processor tries to power that 980, but again you should still see a significant improvement in performance overall. As another commenter pointed out, enabling v-sync on your games should alleviate much of that. Just also plan to upgrade everything else eventually. Wife's build: Amethyst - Ryzen 9 3900X, 32GB G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4-3200, ASUS Prime X570-P, EVGA RTX 3080 FTW3 12GB, Corsair Obsidian 750D, Corsair RM1000 (yellow label) My build: Mira - Ryzen 7 3700X, 32GB EVGA DDR4-3200, ASUS Prime X470-PRO, EVGA RTX 3070 XC3, beQuiet Dark Base 900, EVGA 1000 G6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 3, 2015 Author You'll definitely see a major performance improvement over what you've currently got, but don't sit on that processor/mainboard for too long. An FX-8350 will certainly be better compared to the 4-core Phenom you're currently sitting on, but you'd be better off setting money aside and going with Skylake or Haswell-E eventually. You don't need to worry about that right yet since the combination will still be quite capable, but probably within the next 12 months you'd probably want to make the switch to a newer platform. But since the GTX 980 costs less than changing over to Haswell-E or Skylake, or even Haswell for a comparable processor on core count, it's the more cost-effective upgrade, but hopefully the first step in an overall upgrade. Since you're coming off a GTX 550Ti, the only other immediate consideration is your power supply. Does it have enough of the right PCI-Express connectors for the GTX 980? If no, then that should be your next upgrade point. So you'll likely see some interesting performance artifacts as your processor tries to power that 980, but again you should still see a significant improvement in performance overall. As another commenter pointed out, enabling v-sync on your games should alleviate much of that. Just also plan to upgrade everything else eventually. I got a 750w corsair, it's non-modular but i'm pretty sure it has at least 2 pci connectors. If i was going to upgrade to an intel, i would get a skylake, since prices are pretty similar between them and haswell's right now, only price increase really being ddr4 ram. If I was going to upgrade to intel though, I would get a new PSU since im spending a lot anyway. i was thinking this refurbished rm850 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139123 bad/good PSU? should i not get refurbished? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 3, 2015 That bottleneck is one of the biggest bottlenecks I've ever seen. It's worse than one of those troll PCPP lists with 4-way SLI Titan X' s and a FX-4350. http://anandtech.com/bench/product/102?vs=288 not that bad really. Given that it performs within reasonable range of a Sandy Bridge i5 at stock.. say its near equal at 4.2GHz... Honestly, yes there will be a bottleneck. But it wont be that bad.. Not with THAT OC.... if it was stock, sure. Current setup Images of setup: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/183-show-off-your-setup/?p=5872590 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 3, 2015 That bottleneck is one of the biggest bottlenecks I've ever seen. It's worse than one of those troll PCPP lists with 4-way SLI Titan X' s and a FX-4350. OFF TOPIC: I suggest every poll from now on to have "**CK EA" option instead of "Other" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now