Production Build, CPU Choices

[Drummaboy57]

Amd fx 8350 vs Intel core i7-5960x? Whats the difference?

Why such the huge price difference?? Is it Quality?

Making a production build. 2k-3.5k Everything helps

[ThatOneRussian]

Because the 5960x is much much better for literally everything  gaming, video editing. etc the 8350 is comparable to a 4690k if that

[ChrisCross]

Amd fx 8350 vs Intel core i7-5960x? Whats the difference?

Why such the huge price difference?? Is it Quality?

Making a production build. 2k-3.5k Everything helps

well the main difference between the 2 is that the 8350 has 8 cores and 8 threads while the 5960x has 8 cores and 16 threads. this means the 5960x has 16 virtual cores which makes it way more powerfull. there are a whole lot of more differences but this is the most important one.

the 8350 can be used to replace an i5 in a production build. but cant really be used for gaming because the performance per core is lower.

[DunePilot]

5960X is still the top dog. For most people especially if they do a balanced diet of gaming and work it will fit the bill. OC'd to 5Ghz and able to render 16 threads it makes an excellent workstation and smokes everything else in gaming. For someone strictly doing rendering then comparable 8 core and up Xeons would be other suitable candidates.

 

I am still eagerly awaiting to see how much life DirectX12 brings to old systems once developers make use of the multi-core performance, hopefully it will be a shot of adrenaline in the jugular for older multi-core systems. This is relative mostly to gaming but throwing it out there because it is still somewhat relevant to the convo.

[i_build_nanosuits]

if you don't know the difference between an FX-8350 and an i7-5960X you clearly need to do more research, and more than likely a 6 cores 12 threads CPU such as the core i7-5820K and an X99 motherboard will be more than enough for you

i guess you could start by compairing some chips on this site, it's fairly accurate and detailed, and it's user submitted so no bullshit:
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-5960X-vs-AMD-FX-8350/2580vs1489

The i7-5960X is really downclocked at factory settings of only 3.0ghz where most of them can do 4.2ghz on all cores easily, so keep that in mind when checking results but there is also an ''overclocked results'' category.
 

basicaly the most relevant infos for you are right here:


 

[Benji_w]

well the main difference between the 2 is that the 8350 has 8 cores and 8 threads while the 5960x has 8 cores and 16 threads. this means the 5960x has 16 virtual cores which makes it way more powerfull. there are a whole lot of more differences but this is the most important one.

the 8350 can be used to replace an i5 in a production build. but cant really be used for gaming because the performance per core is lower.

 

Can't be used for gaming why? Why am I able to game above 60FPS using my 8350 if it simply cannot be used for gaming?

[ChrisCross]

Can't be used for gaming why? Why am I able to game above 60FPS using my 8350 if it simply cannot be used for gaming?

you can use it but it does bottleneck higher end cards especially in older games. anything below a 290/970 will make no difference but an i5 costs around the same

[Benji_w]

you can use it but it does bottleneck higher end cards especially in older games. anything below a 290/970 will make no difference but an i5 costs around the same

 

Stock maybe, not when you've overclocked it... unless you're cramming a 980ti or a titan in with a 8350 then yeah a bottleneck will be there but it will still game with competence so I fail to see how your misinformation forms a fact? I'm running a 970 on my rig overclocked with an overclocked 8350 so I have a bit of an issue with what you're claiming.

 

A bottleneck and not being able to game are 2 separate things.

[i_build_nanosuits]

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please stay relevant to the topic, for ONCE this is not about GAMING!!

[i_build_nanosuits]

Amd fx 8350 vs Intel core i7-5960x? Whats the difference?

Why such the huge price difference?? Is it Quality?

Making a production build. 2k-3.5k Everything helps

 

Here goes the build, this would by my US workstation if i would need to build one from scratch, everything in there is there for a good reason:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor  ($369.99 @ SuperBiiz)

CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i GTX 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($104.99 @ Amazon)

Motherboard: MSI X99A Raider ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard  ($212.98 @ Newegg)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($185.99 @ Amazon)

Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP600 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($69.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP600 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($69.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: A-Data Premier SP610 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($179.99 @ Amazon)

Storage: Western Digital Blue 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($88.20 @ SuperBiiz)

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX Titan X 12GB Superclocked Video Card  ($1029.33 @ B&H)

Case: Phanteks Enthoo Luxe ATX Full Tower Case  ($142.99 @ NCIX US)

Power Supply: XFX XTR 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($96.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer  ($44.10 @ SuperBiiz)

Total: $2595.53

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-28 09:47 EDT-0400

 

If your applications can leverage more from OpenCL and you don't need a ton of video memory, you might want to substitute the cuda (titanX) card for this one instead:

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/sapphire-video-card-212460040g

[ChrisCross]

Here goes the build, this would by my US workstation if i would need to build one from scratch, everything in there is there for a good reason:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($369.99 @ SuperBiiz)

CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i GTX 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($104.99 @ Amazon)

Motherboard: MSI X99A Raider ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($212.98 @ Newegg)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($185.99 @ Amazon)

Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP600 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP600 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: A-Data Premier SP610 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($179.99 @ Amazon)

Storage: Western Digital Blue 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.20 @ SuperBiiz)

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX Titan X 12GB Superclocked Video Card ($1029.33 @ B&H)

Case: Phanteks Enthoo Luxe ATX Full Tower Case ($142.99 @ NCIX US)

Power Supply: XFX XTR 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($96.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($44.10 @ SuperBiiz)

Total: $2595.53

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-28 09:47 EDT-0400

If your applications can leverage more from OpenCL and you don't need a ton of video memory, you might want to substitute the cuda (titanX) card for this one instead:

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/sapphire-video-card-212460040g

i would go with an asus x99-a or deluxe and a hitachi or seagate hdd instead but the other parts are good choices

[Benji_w]

please stay relevant to the topic, for ONCE this is not about GAMING!!

 

Its one of the OP's choices and he's being misdirected by misinformation, it is relevant. 

[i_build_nanosuits]

Its one of the OP's choices and he's being misdirected by misinformation, it is relevant.

it's alright, the FX won't make any sense anyways even in a workstation...something like a xeon E3-1231V3 which is an hyper-threaded haswell based quad-core CPU running at 3.8ghz boost will slap bitch the AMD FX in every kind of workloads you can think of and it will end-up being the same price once you factor in a proper overclocking motherboard and CPU cooling for the long outdated AMD chip.

[Benji_w]

it's alright, the FX won't make any sense anyways even in a workstation...something like a xeon E3-1231V3 which is an hyper-threaded haswell based quad-core CPU running at 3.8ghz boost will slap bitch the AMD FX in every kind of workloads you can think of and it will end-up being the same price once you factor in a proper overclocking motherboard and CPU cooling for the long outdated AMD chip.

 

Pretty true, made sense when I bought mine back in the day but Zen is a year away now so never know. Agree on the Xeon.

[mao91]

Honestly, I'd recommend the 5820k for production. you're going to save a TOOOON of money and the real-world performance difference isn't that big to justify spending $1000 on a chip. Put the extra money into your graphics card. 

[i_build_nanosuits]

Pretty true, made sense when I bought mine back in the day but Zen is a year away now so never know. Agree on the Xeon.

Back then, when the FX launched it was competing with the i5-2500K in terms of it's pricing but offered better multi-threaded performance when compaired to anything intel had similarly priced at this point...worse single-thread performance across the board though but still for SOME scenarios it performed better than intel at similar cost...so it did made sense at some point for some people to go with the AMD FX, but nowadays it's very long in the tooth and it's just a wrong choice for pretty much everyone unless maybe you can get an AM3+ board for VERY cheap (bundled with the CPU...motherboard for free...something like that you know) and your budget is like ''as low as possible'' kind of thing.

[Nena Trinity]

AMD has much smaller cores and the Intel CPU has double the amount of treads!

[i_build_nanosuits]

AMD has much smaller cores and the Intel CPU has double the amount of treads!

i think you meant ''AMD has much SLOWER cores and the Intel CPU has double the amount of treads! '' which would be more accurate since in terms of size the AM3+ CPU's and socket 2011 are pretty comparable in size but not in speed...

[Nena Trinity]

i think you meant ''AMD has much SLOWER cores and the Intel CPU has double the amount of treads! '' which would be more accurate since in terms of size the AM3+ CPU's and socket 2011 are pretty comparable in size but not in speed and power consumption...

Actually they are smaller to also the X99 chips is at 140W TDP was they not?

[i_build_nanosuits]

Actually they are smaller to also the X99 chips is at 140W TDP was they not?

yeah lol i corrected the post i've checked some figures for an overclocked 5960X and when you stress all the FPUs on that thing it can pull some serious power...similar to an overclocked FX-8 indeed!

[Nena Trinity]

yeah lol i corrected the post i've checked some figures for an overclocked 5960X and when you stress all the FPUs on that thing it can pull some serious power...similar to an overclocked FX-8 indeed!

Well it sure has more performance per wattage!

[Drummaboy57]

I appreciate the help

However I am looking more into audio production that video production. (though I can see myself editing for music videos) I use DAWS and Virtual Instruments, and those programs do take advantage of hyperthreading, Some synths can eat an entire core while other sampled instruments can run a 1-3 gigs of ram each.