5930k vs 5960x

[The_Renegade]

How significant is the difference between the core i7 5930k and the 5960x they 5960x is about double the price but is it worth it ??

[Mikjul]

Zero.

[don_svetlio]

5930*K* is 6 core
5960X is 8 core

[Amazingasian]

You have to be doing some video editing to notice the 2 core difference.

[DarkBlade2117]

Get a 5820k and save some money, unless you plan on like 3-WAY sli and have a PCIe or M.2 SSD and other things. It is not worth it. The 5960x is way over priced also.

[Mikjul]

You have to be doing some Quantum Physics to notice the 2 core difference.

FTFY

[SeanAngelo]

How significant is the difference between the core i7 5930k and the 5960x they 5960x is about double the price but is it worth it ??

you gotta do some intensive tasks to notice the difference in performance between the two.

 

though the 5820k is more than enough these days...

[X1XNobleX1X]

How significant is the difference between the core i7 5930k and the 5960x they 5960x is about double the price but is it worth it ??

Depends what you're doing.

 

For gaming, get a mainstream CPU.\

 

If you're doing video editing, get a X99 CPU.

 

 

You don't really need a 5960X unless, you're doing media creation everyday.

[Pizzatime6]

2 more cores

5mb more cashe

faster clock speed on the 5930K

/thread with 5960X being marginally better at rendering and work while the 5930K beats the 5960X in a lot of cases for gaming

[colinreay]

The only reason not to go for the 5820k is if you plan to have 24x lanes for gpu's and multiple x4 nvme/m.2/pci x storage devices, I believe someone said this above. Pretty much, I a pretty sure that all of the Haswell-E chips share the same base architecture, but functions are turned off according to prices.

[Morgan MLGman]

Get a 5820k and save some money, unless you plan on like 3-WAY sli and have a PCIe or M.2 SSD and other things. It is not worth it. The 5960x is way over priced also.

Pretty much this ^

[D2ultima]

You have to be doing some video editing to notice the 2 core difference.

Or livestreaming and actually using compression properly.

 

Especially while playing at high FPS.

[Sylar1155]

How significant is the difference between the core i7 5930k and the 5960x they 5960x is about double the price but is it worth it ??

5930k Has less cores (6),

5960X is an 8 core.

[Coaxialgamer]

5820k = best deal, up to 2-3 gpus 6 core

5930k = only for 3-4 gpu configs 6 cores

5960x =extreme performance, where 8 cores are needed.

[Nena Trinity]

For gaming none probably? Work? Well yeah if the apps supports the X amount of treads!

[Hiebly]

Depends what you're using it for. I mean it's 8 cores vs 6 cores... so if you were to overclock the 5960X to match the 5930K in clock speed, you'd be looking at a theoretical 33% increase to multi-threaded performance. So there is less performance per dollar, but if you're a professional video editor or something it may very well be worth it for you.

 

IMO the 5930K isn't worth buying... there's virtually zero performance difference between it and the cheaper 5820K.

[-iSynthesis]

Or livestreaming and actually using compression properly.

 

Especially while playing at high FPS.

You can livestream with an i5 with no problem. Saying you need a 8 core - 16 thread CPU for any streaming at all is BS.

[typographie]

If you're doing the kind of work where an i7-5960X is worthwhile, then you're probably someone who would otherwise be considering a higher-end Xeon. It's not an overpriced gaming chip, it's a cheap-ish workstation/server chip.

 

For gaming, there's little practical reason to recommend anything beyond the 5820K, and in my opinion the Z97/Z170 chips make more sense for that.

You can livestream with an i5 with no problem. Saying you need a 8 core - 16 thread CPU for any streaming at all is BS.

Streaming seems to be more likely bottlenecked by upload bandwidth than anything else on American internet plans. My old i5-750 had no problem streaming to the limits of my paltry Time Warner 1 Mb/s upload.

[D2ultima]

You can livestream with an i5 with no problem. Saying you need a 8 core - 16 thread CPU for any streaming at all is BS.

I said "and actually using compression properly. Especially while playing at high FPS". I didn't say you NEED 8c/16t for it. I said it will be a notice-able benefit to it, especially at higher resolution streaming like 1080p should one wish to do that.

 

Please, don't try to tell me about what an i5 can do with a stream. Nobody on this planet is capable of winning that battle with me. I'm fully aware of what various CPUs can and can't do with streaming, more than most everyone else.

[-iSynthesis]

I said "and actually using compression properly. Especially while playing at high FPS". I didn't say you NEED 8c/16t for it. I said it will be a notice-able benefit to it, especially at higher resolution streaming like 1080p should one wish to do that.

 

Please, don't try to tell me about what an i5 can do with a stream. Nobody on this planet is capable of winning that battle with me. I'm fully aware of what various CPUs can and can't do with streaming, more than most everyone else.

Name a game that benefits from 16 threads if you stream, please. Streaming cs:go on my xeon is no problem, with half the threads. I get exacly zero fps decrease, obviously it isn't the most demanding game out there but im still curious, you can never know enough right?

[D2ultima]

Name a game that benefits from 16 threads if you stream, please. Streaming cs:go on my xeon is no problem, with half the threads. I get exacly zero fps decrease, obviously it isn't the most demanding game out there but im still curious, you can never know enough right?

Any game? You're speaking as if you don't know what you're talking about again.

 

I said, using compression properly. I can max out a 3.5GHz haswell i7 with the utmost ease while streaming, especially if I'm aiming for 120fps.

 

GTA V. BF4. Crysis 3. Witcher 3. Dying Light. All of these are directly CPU intensive and more than benefit from i7s with regards to streaming, far less one with so many extra cores and threads. More CPU power is *NEVER* a waste with streaming. You can always add more compression and improve quality some.

[-iSynthesis]

Any game? You're speaking as if you don't know what you're talking about again.

 

I said, using compression properly. I can max out a 3.5GHz haswell i7 with the utmost ease while streaming, especially if I'm aiming for 120fps.

 

GTA V. BF4. Crysis 3. Witcher 3. Dying Light. All of these are directly CPU intensive and more than benefit from i7s with regards to streaming, far less one with so many extra cores and threads. More CPU power is *NEVER* a waste with streaming. You can always add more compression and improve quality some.

I don't get your point with the FPS? AFAIK the max fps on twitch etc. is 60, getting higher fps in games usually isnt really cpu demanding. You are correct that i don't know too much about it and can only speak about my own experience. 

[D2ultima]

I don't get your point with the FPS? AFAIK the max fps on twitch etc. is 60, getting higher fps in games usually isnt really cpu demanding. You are correct that i don't know too much about it and can only speak about my own experience. 

Higher in-game FPS (120Hz, 144Hz screen) = more CPU load. The higher FPS a user wishes to play at = the more CPU power they will use = the less excess power for streaming/other tasks.

 

 

That there's a CPU bottleneck before I even hit 120fps. Look how little extra power I have leftover (Throttlestop shows actual load; Windows Task Manager is incorrect and is actually limiting how much CPU the app can take in this instance... the extra power is in fact there and can be used by OBS though).

 

If I wanted to stream right then and there, I'd have almost nothing left to stream with, and quality would take a nosedive. Buuuut since that's clearly a GPU bottleneck, let's assume I wished to play at 60fps and vsynced to 60. Effectively halve that CPU load I've got, and think about how much extra power I'll have for my stream. Understand?

 

Now, think about what'd happen if I had a hexacore or octocore intel chip. Since Dying Light seems to prove that it'll happily use all cores + hyperthreading, 120fps should be a cinch on a similarly clocked hexa/octo CPU... far less if I overclocked those too. More power leftover for the stream to use~