i7-6700K or i7-5820K?

[Interfectorem]

Hello everybody. My current PC is starting to fail and crashing during my precious Battlefield 4 sessions and it's starting to piss me off. I had already planned on getting the 6700K + Asus M8H + 16GB DDR4 for my future upgrades, but the 6700K is still not available on Newegg and I might need an upgrade sooner than I thought. My other option is a 5820K + ASRock X99 Extreme6 + 16GB DDR4. My main use is pure gaming and I will be overclocking the 5820K to 4.0 + GHz. So forums, what would you choose? Keep in mind I will be overclocking the 5820K to 4.5 GHz (Or as high as I can)

[Zhuocheng]

5820k

[Ceatra]

6700K if only gaming....

 

 

5820K if rendering and such...

[Imakuni]

Hello everybody. My current PC is starting to fail and crashing during my precious Battlefield 4 sessions and it's starting to piss me off. I had already planned on getting the 6700K + Asus M8H + 16GB DDR4 for my future upgrades, but the 6700K is still not available on Newegg and I might need an upgrade sooner than I thought. My other option is a 5820K + ASRock X99 Extreme6 + 16GB DDR4. My main use is pure gaming and I will be overclocking the 5820K to 4.0 + GHz. So forums, what would you choose?

How about a 6600k + non overkill board + 8gb of RAM?

 

This will be half the price, but with the very same level of performance.

[Ceatra]

How about a 6600k + non overkill board + 8gb of RAM?

 

This will be half the price, but with the very same level of performance.

i think 16gb would be better....

 

it's not a very big difference in price

[Interfectorem]

How about a 6600k + non overkill board + 8gb of RAM?

 

This will be half the price, but with the very same level of performance.

I'm the kind of person that wants the best of the best, though I am aware that I would get very similar performance with a 6600K, I just want the bigger numbers and bragging rights, shallow I know, sorry. But thanks for the suggestion nonetheless.

[failblox]

If you're just gaming, get the 6600K instead and save yourself some money. You will see no noticeable difference between the 6700K and 6600K in gaming.

 

Edit: If you really want the 6700K instead, then get that over the 5820K because the 5820K is even more overkill for your needs than the 6700K. I'd really like to clarify with you that X99 is NOT for people that purely game.

[Interfectorem]

If you're just gaming, get the 6600K instead and save yourself some money. You will see no noticeable difference between the 6700K and 6600K in gaming.

Refer to the post above you, I'm only considering the two options in the poll.

[AresKrieger]

I'm the kind of person that wants the best of the best, though I am aware that I would get very similar performance with a 6600K, I just want the bigger numbers and bragging rights, shallow I know, sorry. But thanks for the suggestion nonetheless.

6700k for gaming

[AnnoyedShelf]

How about a 6600k + non overkill board + 8gb of RAM?

 

This will be half the price, but with the very same level of performance.

I'd take the 16GB.  I've seen BF4 use 5-6GB of RAM alone.

[cortexcortex]

Definitely 5820k

[Bob Jim]

Bare in mind that X99 has massive boot times, slightly worse IPC, and a lower clock. Better to go with the 6700K if not rendering etc.

[Interfectorem]

Bare in mind that X99 has massive boot times, slightly worse IPC, and a lower clock. Better to go with the 6700K if not rendering etc.

Well clockspeeds wont matter since I'll be overclocking my 5820K to 4.0+ GHz. Boot times don't really matter to me. Thanks for sharing though.

[Elucidator]

I'd take the 16GB.  I've seen BF4 use 5-6GB of RAM alone.

Yea there are already games out there that already need that much RAM, so with an eye on the future I'd also recommend to go with 16 GB

[Imakuni]

I'm the kind of person that wants the best of the best, though I am aware that I would get very similar performance with a 6600K, I just want the bigger numbers and bragging rights, shallow I know, sorry. But thanks for the suggestion nonetheless.

If all you want is to cherish your ego, why are you even asking? Just whatever you wish and be done with it, our opinion is completely irrelevant in that matter.

[Interfectorem]

If all you want is to cherish your ego, why are you even asking? Just whatever you wish and be done with it, our opinion is completely irrelevant in that matter.

Good point, sorry for wasting your time. It's just that both of these options stroke my ego equally and I needed a straw that broke the camel's back sort of thing if you will.

[vXhanz]

5820k.

You can get it from Staples (price matched to Microcenter) for $300, though they must have goofed on mine and gave it to me for $286 (including tax and shipping).

[Egad]

5820K

 

Clear upgrade path (if needed) to the 5960X with 40 PCIe lanes.  Or DDR RAM would be usable on a Skylake if you go that route later, although I can't imagine why you would need to.  A much more mature overall ecosystem around the X99 chipset.  

[Cheddle]

Bare in mind that X99 has massive boot times, slightly worse IPC, and a lower clock. Better to go with the 6700K if not rendering etc.

 

my rig takes 11 seconds to boot from a 120gb Samsung 840 SSD, including using the on board raid controller. I wouldn't call that massive.

 

If you're just gaming, get the 6600K instead and save yourself some money. You will see no noticeable difference between the 6700K and 6600K in gaming.

 

Edit: If you really want the 6700K instead, then get that over the 5820K because the 5820K is even more overkill for your needs than the 6700K. I'd really like to clarify with you that X99 is NOT for people that purely game.

 

my 4690k at 4.5ghz was a bottleneck when running project cars and GTA5 - I don't see the 6600k being much better.

 

Hello everybody. My current PC is starting to fail and crashing during my precious Battlefield 4 sessions and it's starting to piss me off. I had already planned on getting the 6700K + Asus M8H + 16GB DDR4 for my future upgrades, but the 6700K is still not available on Newegg and I might need an upgrade sooner than I thought. My other option is a 5820K + ASRock X99 Extreme6 + 16GB DDR4. My main use is pure gaming and I will be overclocking the 5820K to 4.0 + GHz. So forums, what would you choose? Keep in mind I will be overclocking the 5820K to 4.5 GHz (Or as high as I can)

 

OP - as per the below reply, going for x99 is the better option when its hardly any money than a z170 platform , it provides a better upgrade path and a more powerful CPU. Any application that cannot utilize multi-threading will NOT be noticeably impacted by the lower IPC and potential clock speed of the 22nm haswell arch. vs the 14nm skylake arch.  Further true in the case of z97 vs x99.

 

Take Valley bench for example, notoriously single threaded and LOVES clock speed. my 5820k at 4.5ghz gives me exactly the same FPS as my 4690k at 4.5ghz (110fps avg) - and both give me 10 fps avg more than my 4690 (3.5ghz)... so there is no point in spending the extra money for "performance" as you wont see any gains from the x99 platform... The 10 fps avg increase all came from areas of the bench that exceeded 150fps where the CPU could not feed frames fast enough to the GPU. in scenes where FPS was below 100 there was no change between these three CPU's

 

In project cars with the 5820k I can now race with 20+ AI on track at once and not have slow downs where as I was hitting 100% CPU with 10 cars on my 4690k

 

The disadvantage is that the 22nm 6 core CPU's will run hotter than a 14nm 4 core CPU.

 

Mines running at 4.5ghz @ 1.25v with a tiny H75 (120mm) all-in-one and it rarely sees over 60 degrees in games and always stays under 90 when stress testing - so I dont see the temp as a problem. If you were building an ITX system where cooling is a real consideration then sure, this would matter.

 

 

5820K

 

Clear upgrade path (if needed) to the 5960X with 40 PCIe lanes.  Or DDR RAM would be usable on a Skylake if you go that route later, although I can't imagine why you would need to.  A much more mature overall ecosystem around the X99 chipset.  

 

+1

[Interfectorem]

my rig takes 11 seconds to boot from a 120gb Samsung 840 SSD, including using the on board raid controller. I wouldn't call that massive.

 

 

my 4690k at 4.5ghz was a bottleneck when running project cars and GTA5 - I don't see the 6600k being much better.

 

 

OP - as per the below reply, going for x99 is the better option when its hardly any money than a z170 platform , it provides a better upgrade path and a more powerful CPU. Any application that cannot utilize multi-threading will NOT be noticeably impacted by the lower IPC and potential clock speed of the 22nm haswell arch. vs the 14nm skylake arch.  Further true in the case of z97 vs x99.

 

Take Valley bench for example, notoriously single threaded and LOVES clock speed. my 5820k at 4.5ghz gives me exactly the same FPS as my 4690k at 4.5ghz (110fps avg) - and both give me 10 fps avg more than my 4690 (3.5ghz)... so there is no point in spending the extra money for "performance" as you wont see any gains from the x99 platform... The 10 fps avg increase all came from areas of the bench that exceeded 150fps where the CPU could not feed frames fast enough to the GPU. in scenes where FPS was below 100 there was no change between these three CPU's

 

In project cars with the 5820k I can now race with 20+ AI on track at once and not have slow downs where as I was hitting 100% CPU with 10 cars on my 4690k

 

The disadvantage is that the 22nm 6 core CPU's will run hotter than a 14nm 4 core CPU.

 

Mines running at 4.5ghz @ 1.25v with a tiny H75 (120mm) all-in-one and it rarely sees over 60 degrees in games and always stays under 90 when stress testing - so I dont see the temp as a problem. If you were building an ITX system where cooling is a real consideration then sure, this would matter.

 

 

 

+1

I appreciate your in-depth answer. I think I've sealed my choice on the 5820K.

[NumLock21]

Please excuse my yakking...

You own factory where workers have to place the boxes onto the conveyor belt. 4 fast workers vs 6 slower workers. The 4 faster workers, no matter what, will still have less boxes put on the conveyor belt vs the 6 slower workers. So if each can only carry 1 box at a time and put it onto the conveyor belt. The 4 faster works, doing it twice will have a total of 8 boxes, while the 6 slower workers will have a total of 12 boxes. That means the 4 faster workers are behind by 4 boxes (12-8=4). As more boxes are put on, the difference of boxes get wider and wider. So

4x5=20 vs 6x5=30, difference = 10. 4x6=24 vs 6x6=36, difference = 12. Now make the 4 faster workers, work faster, they still won't catch up to the 6 slower ones. 4x8=32 vs 6x6=36, difference = 4. To make the 4 faster one put the same number of boxes then they will have go a lot faster, so 4x9=36 vs 6x6=36. Each of the 4 faster ones have to do it 9 times, while the 6 slower ones, only have to do it 6 times. 4x18=72 vs 6x12=72. each of the faster one have to do it 18 times, slower ones just 12 times.

In single threaded work load faster cores is better, but in multi-threaded work load, even though the cores it's runs a slower clock, it will still out perform the faster cores.

Skylake for the "4GHz" clock speed. My cpu has 4GHz!

Haswell-E for that "extra cores". My cpu has 6 cores!

So 4GHz or 6 cores? IMO speed isn't always everything, more cores the better, get 5820K.

[dextroid17]

Hello everybody. My current PC is starting to fail and crashing during my precious Battlefield 4 sessions and it's starting to piss me off. I had already planned on getting the 6700K + Asus M8H + 16GB DDR4 for my future upgrades, but the 6700K is still not available on Newegg and I might need an upgrade sooner than I thought. My other option is a 5820K + ASRock X99 Extreme6 + 16GB DDR4. My main use is pure gaming and I will be overclocking the 5820K to 4.0 + GHz. So forums, what would you choose? Keep in mind I will be overclocking the 5820K to 4.5 GHz (Or as high as I can)

try watching this

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this might help in your decision 

[Interfectorem]

try watching this

click here

 

this might help in your decision 

I appreciate your help, however that video is comparing the two CPU's a stock clock speeds. 3.3 GHz is quite a ways from 4.0 GHz that the 6700K sports. I'll be overclocking my 5820K to 4.4 - 4.5 GHz. Not to mention I already placed the order for the X99 option this Monday. I appreciate your effort though.

[dextroid17]

I appreciate your help, however that video is comparing the two CPU's a stock clock speeds. 3.3 GHz is quite a ways from 4.0 GHz that the 6700K sports. I'll be overclocking my 5820K to 4.4 - 4.5 GHz. Not to mention I already placed the order for the X99 option this Monday. I appreciate your effort though.

I see, thats ok theirs a little bit difference between those 2 CPUs...their are both winners for me...

[Sintezza]

highly depends on your usage realy.

If you only care about gaming and surfing the web, then the 6700k is the better choice obviously.

But if you game and also do allot of productivity work, then the 5820k will be a better work horse.