September 11, 2015 - The WAN Show Document

[LinusTech]

 

 

 

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Soundcloud Link: https://soundcloud.com/thewanshow/the-wan-show-no-more-technical-difficulties-september-11-2015

 

Main News Topics

Apple 2015 September event, iPad pro, Apple TV and iPhone 6S

Source 1: linustechtips.com/apple-2015-september-event… OP: AlexGoesHigh

Source 2: apple.com/apple-events/september-2015

 

iPhone 6S/6S+

• released on September 25

• on 2-year contract rates

• 6S - 16GB for $199, 64GB for $299, 128GB for $399

• 6S Plus - 16GB for $299, 64GB for $399, 128GB for $499

• 3D touch (Force Touch by another name) - hidden menus, right click, etc.

• 7000 series aluminum

• “strongest cover glass”

• 64-bit A9 chip with M9 motion compressor

• 2nd-generation Touch ID

• 12MP iSight camera

• 4K video

• 5MP FaceTime HD with Retina Flash

• Silver, Space Grey, Gold, Rose Gold

• taptic engine

 

iPad Pro

• release coming in November

• 32GB is $799, 128GB is $949, 128GB with Cellular data is $1079

• 12.9-inch Retina display

• 3rd-generation 64-bit A9X chip

• four speaker audio

• 10-hour battery

• 8MP iSight camera

• 802.11 ac with MIMO

• up to 150 Mbps LTE

• touch ID

• 5.6 million pixels (more than the Retina Macbook Pro)

• 6.9mm thick

• has a flip-out keyboard accessory (very reminiscent of another tablet)

• introduced the Apple Pencil - has tilt, pressure, all the fixins for a good stylus

• Microsoft bringing full Office support for the iPad Pro

• Adobe providing support as well for TypeKit compatible apps (not clear exactly what, alluded to possibly being Illustrator)

• realtime anatomy apps with 3D4Medical

 

Apple Watch/Watch OS

• WatchOS 2 on September 16

• prices not changed

• claims customer satisfaction of “an incredible 97 percent.”

• 10,000 watch apps

• 3rd-party complications so apps can tap right into the home screen to display notifications/updates

• Facebook messenger app

• GoPro (looks like direct feed only?) app

• Rose Gold and gold for Apple Watch Sport (7000 series aluminum)

 

New Apple TV

• 32GB for $149 or 64GB for $199

• coming in late October

• 64-bit A8 chip

• Bluetooth 4.0

• 802.11 ac Wi-Fi with MIMO

• IR receiver

• Siri

• new OS for all things TV-related, apps have been redone to follow new style, and updated with deep Siri integration (eg. Netflix & HBO)

• can now make purchases through Apple TV (OP made a joke about buying a sport coat while having “Netflix and Chill” sessions)

• revamped MLB and NHL apps, integrating streaming through the app as well as other features

Android Pay is rolling out today! Sep 11th, 2015

Source 1: Google officially rolling out Android Pay starting today

Source 2: Android Pay v1.0 Auto-Redeem some loyalty Programs

Source 3: Google takes on Apple with Android Pay

• Gradual rollout starting today, not quite yet available to all of the US

• Android Pay application is to fully replace the “Google Wallet” app

  • Required Pay Services 8.1.13 to operate, you may have to update

• Will be able to use Android Pay at over one million locations across the US

• To use it, you must have an NFC-enabled smartphone running Kitkat 4.4 or later

• This service will work with any cell carrier in the US

• It can support credit and debit cards from American Express, Discover, MasterCard and Visa

• Not all banks in the US will be supported at the start, but most of the major banks and credit unions will work

• Credit/debit number isn’t sent with your payment, Google will instead use a virtual number that provides an extra layer of security

• Android Pay can automatically redeem special offers and submit account details for loyalty programs

• Android Pay makes it easy to check for suspicious activity, as you will be able to quickly view a payment confirmation that shows where each transaction happened

GTA V online free mode is here Source 1: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/447497-gta-v-online-free OP:Rockstar

Source 2: http://ca.ign.com/articles/2015/09/10/how-gta-online-has-changed-rockstar-north

• Gives gta online players a range of seamlessly integrated games and challenges in GTA

• Available to Xbox One, PS4 and PC players September 15th, 2015

• One of these events can kick off at any given moment while in freemode, and you can customize your session to decide exactly what will happen

• Still 8 million players entering and playing GTA online in any given week

• Examples of different events

  • King of the Castle: every man for himself turf war where you’ll need to ascend and claim the “castle” as your territory

  • Hunt the Beast: One volunteer is transformed into a fast, strong werewolf esque beast who must escape pursuers

  • Hunting Pack: you’re part of a team tasked to deliver a priority vehicle rigged to explode if it slows down

  • Cross the Line: Heavily armed squads face off across a neutral zone, with the goal of having people strategically infiltrate opponents territory

AMD R9 Nano launch & reviews

Source 1: linustechtips.com/main/topic/447392-pcper-amd-r9-nano-review/ OP: Zmeul

Source 2: pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/AMD-Radeon-R9-Nano-Review

• “A unique design without a direct rival, for now.” - PCPer

• $650

• Does not compete with the 980Ti or Fury X in terms of performance.

• 4096 stream processors, 256 texture units and 64 ROPs.

• GPU core clock is rated “up to” 1.0 GHz.

• 6-in PCB design

• The card is quiet but far from silent.

• The Nano does support CrossFire using XDMA so no CrossFire connectors are needed.

• No back plate

• single 8-pin PCIe power connection

• three DisplayPort connections and a single HDMI 1.4a port.

• AMD is asking users to trade that last 10% of performance (compared to a Fury X) for a smaller size and the ability to install a Fiji GPU in a unique set of chassis and designs.

AMD's Zen architecture will be late

Source 1: linustechtips.com - amds zen architecture will be late OP: Zmeul

Source 2: digitimes.com/news/a20150910PD202.html

• expected to arrive Q4 2016 at the earliest

• motherboard players are concerned that arrival will be even later

• speculated that en architecture’s late release is due to Globalfoundries’ issues with R&D and yield rates for 14nm FinFET manufacturing

• Zen expected to achieve a 40% improvement in performance compared to existing AMD x86 architecture chips

• “Seeing PC demand remaining weak and its server, embedded and tablet product shipments failing to achieve major growth, AMD reported losses of US$360 million for the first half of 2015.”

Nintendo attacking speedrunners

Source 1: linustechtips.com/main/topic/447789-nintendo-attacking-speed OP: Ramamataz

Source 2: geeksnack.com - nintendo cracking down on speed runners and roms

Source 3: wiiudaily.com/2015/09/nintendo-cracking-down-on-youtubers-again/

Source 4: destructoid.com - nintendo s cracking down on speedrunning and rom h

Source 5: digitaltrends.com - nintendo targets speedrunners with youtube copyr

Source 6: r.ncp.nintendo.net/

• PangaeaPanga, a YouTube speedrunner, had his channel “butchered” by Nintendo

• “upwards of 80%” of his content has been removed from YouTube

• reasoning was his use of tool assisted hacks or hacked ROMS of Super Mario

• multiple copyright strikes against him

• received an email from the Nintendo Anti-Piracy Team stating that his videos infringe Nintendo’s copyrights

• “As the owner of the copyright in the games: Mario Kart 8, Super Mario World, and Pokémon, Nintendo has the exclusive right to perform the games publicly or to make derivative works based on the games. By making a derivative work using Nintendo's IP, and then displaying Nintendo's IP on your YouTube channel, you have violated Nintendo's exclusive rights.”

• “Nintendo understands that its fans are the reason for its success, and we are always happy to see people share their passion for Nintendo's games. At the same time, Nintendo's intellectual property constitutes its most valuable assets, and the unauthorized use of these assets jeopardizes Nintendo's rights. Because of this, we ask that you please remove the video in question from your channel, and confirm that you will not post any videos using unauthorized software or copies of games, distribute or continue work on the modification, or take any other steps that would infringe Nintendo's rights.”

• referred him to the Nintendo Creators Program (through which Nintendo takes a cut, listed as 30% for channels and 40% for videos, of ad revenues generated by videos featuring Nintendo games) if he wanted to continue his “fan engagement on YouTube”

• “However, please note that this Code of Conduct prohibits you, among other things, from posting any content using unauthorized software or copies of games. This includes videos featuring tool-assisted speedruns, which require making a copy of a game's ROM file, and running the copied ROM through an emulator.”

• other speedrun videos are being removed across YouTube

• speculated that this is due to the recent release of Super Mario Maker

• speculated that Nintendo wants to stop people from sharing their ROM hacks (where they make no money) and instead force them to buy the game, where new levels are shared within Nintendo’s own ecosystem

Samsung Launches Industry’s First 12Gbps LPDDR4 DRAM

Source 1: linustechtips.com - samsung launches industry%E2%80%99s first 12g OP: Jos

Source 2: au.finance.yahoo.com - samsung launches industry first 12gb 23000050

• First 12-gigabit (Gb) LPDDR4 (low power, double data rate 4) mobile DRAM

• 12Gb version is more than 30 percent faster at 4,266 megabits per second (Mbps), twice as fast as a DDR4 DIMM processing speed per pin at 2133Mbps.

• Enables 3 gigabyte (GB) or 6GB of mobile DRAM in a single package using just two chips and four chips respectively.

• Samsung also expects that due to the benefits of its LPDDR4 mobile memory, application areas will expand beyond smartphones and tablets to include ultra-slim PCs, digital appliances and automotive devices, in the coming years.

OnePlus 2 To Be Available Without Invite - Well, for an hour.

Source 1: linustechtips.com - oneplus 2 to be available without invite we OP: Suika

Source 2: androidauthority.com - oneplus announces open sales oneplus 2 this m

• Company co-founder said: “We know how it feels waiting and waiting for something you really want, while being given ETAs that go unfulfilled. We appreciate the trust and support that you have given to a relatively small and unknown company like OnePlus. We know that you are rooting for us, and want nothing more than to see us succeed. Therefore, it feels extra terrible to let you down this time around, again.”

• OnePlus has announced that it will open up sales for the OnePlus 2 sometime later this month or early next month, for one hour only.

• Exact date and time will be given to us sometime soon.

Qualcomm's Snapdragon Flight...Cheap drones in the future

Source 1: linustechtips.com - qualcomms snapdragon flightcheap drones in th OP: Jos

Source 2: sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2015/sep/10/qualcomm-snapdragon-flight-drones

• On Thursday Qualcomm introduced a new circuit board and software specifically designed to enable better aerial photography.

• Called the Snapdragon Flight, the circuit board aims to allow drone makers to introduce smaller, easy–to-use and inexpensive drones that would operate as flying cameras.

• Snapdragon Flight is expected to power flying cameras drones that would retail for about $300, said Hugo Swart, senior product development manager with Qualcomm.

• It has Snapdragon 801 processors to power its applications.

• Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and GPS, as well as display technologies enable wireless streaming. That allows users to see on their smartphones what the drone camera is filming in flight, said Swart.

• A Qualcomm technician pointed a leaf blower at a prototype, small flying camera drone powered by Snapdragon Flight to simulate wind. When the leaf blower was lowered, the drone returned to the location that its stabilization cameras recognized as its original hover point.

Amazon is making a $50 tablet!

Source 1: linustechtips.com/main/topic/446178-amazon-is-making-a-50-tablet/ OP: Lolzious

Source 2: wsj.com - amazon to release 50 tablet as it struggles to sell pricie

• $50 tablet with a 6-inch screen,

• A simple and effectively disposable device for straightforward tasks like streaming video at home and shopping on Amazon.com.

• Chief Executive Jeff Bezos said, the company prefers to make money by selling services that work with the devices, like e-books and video rentals.

• Wal-Mart Stores Inc. and Amazon sell several 7-inch tablets for around $50, including from brands unfamiliar to many Americans like RCA, Ematic and Ares.

Jurassic world becoming reality but for Mammoths.

Source 1: linustechtips.com - jurasic world becoming reality but for mammot OP: Jos

Source 2: https://www.the-newshub.com/science/is-a-real-jurassic-park-coming

• Russian scientists are working to extract the DNA of woolly mammoths and hope to resurrect the extinct species.

• project is housed at the Mammoth Museum of the Institute of Applied Ecology at the North-Eastern Federal University.

• The team already have Yuka, an exquisitely preserved 39,000 pound woolly mammoth, in their possession.

• The Russian scientists believe they have an upper hand because of the quality of specimens that had been frozen and preserved in the Siberian permafrost.

• Once extracted, the DNA would be cross-linked with a modern elephant to give birth to an animal that resembles a prehistoric mammoth.

• Zebra fish and jellyfish have already been successfully cross-linked to make glowing fish

 

Rapid Fire

Fallout 4 will support modding (Confirmed) ALSO: $30 Season Pass

Source 1: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/447084-the-gro OP: Bethesda

Source 2: Fallout 4’s free updates, $30 season pass and upcoming mod support detailed

• Creation kit will be released for PC early next year

• Bethesda says the creation kit is “the same tool we use in the studio”

• Kit will follow for Xbox One and PS4 after, no eta though

• Confirmed on Bethesdas website

  • They say “The most important thing in our games is the freedom you have to create your own experience, and modding is a big part of that.”

Get a free VR Cardboard box with Kelloggs

Source 1: Get a free Google Cardboard with Kelloggs OP: Engadget

Source 2: VR is the prize at the bottom of your cereal box

Source 3: Google Cardboard VR

• New Zealand promotion - Kellogg’s is promoting packs of nutri-grain by bundling instructions that transform the box into a Google Cardboard-style device

  • https://youtu.be/lcrk7VDuyWU - Video Instructions

• Download the “NG Bolt” app from the app store or Google play

• Can just watch one of three videos to simulate a vr type experience

Canon shows their VR headset with an alleged resolution of 5600x2800

Source 1: Canon shows their VR headset OP: Tweaktown, UploadVR

Source 2: Canon teases VR headset with 2.5 res per eye

Source 3: Canon teases a handheld display with a rumored 2.5k per eye

• New VR display has a 120-degree FOV, three layer optical lens system per eye

• Unconventional, sporting two legs that serve as handholds rather than a strap that fits on your head. Looks like updated viewfinder you see near monuments and vistas PICTURE

• Device streamed a 5-minute loop of high-res footage shot by Canon camers in 5600x2800 resolution

• Details are fairly slim, just the prototype and some hands on experiences

All gas stations in Russia have to install EV charging stations

Source 1: All gas stations in Russia will have to install EV charging stations OP: Autoblog

Source 2: All gas stations in Russia will have to install EV charging stations

Source 3: Russia decrees: every gas station must have EV charging

• One single sweeping decree, Russia could become much more hospitable for electric cars

• All gas stations must be equipped with EV charging stations by Nov 2016

• Gas station owners must cover all applicable costs for install

• Loophole = Doesn’t specify what type of charging station, likely most will go with most inexpensive

• Only a reported 500 electric cars have been sold in Russia (146 million ish people)

Pokemon GO announced for IOS and Android devices

Source 1: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/447320-pokemon-go-announce OP: Serbii

Source 2: Pokemon GO announced - Capture, trade and battle Pokemon

Source 3: Pokemon GO announced for Android/Iphone

Announcement Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sj2iQyBTQs

• Nintendo, The Pokemon Company and Niantic (Independant from Google) have announced Pokemon GO.

• Free to play for mobile devices on IOS and Android, releases in 2016

• Game will see players able to catch, train and battle with Pokemon in the real world via location in their mobile devices

• Players can play with an optional device called “Pokemon Go Plus”. Like a smartwatch, it can be worn on the wrist and is used to execute in-game actions such as catching a Pokemon

• The device can be connected to smartphones using Bluetooth, and will flash its LED and vibrate to notify players about nearby Pokemon

[arvark]

lol the title of the video

[comicsansms]

Linus gibberish

[ThatOnePyotr]

Apple Right off the bat!

[SwedishHaxMafia]

Can you guys please stop using the Seiren? It sucks. At the very least get a shock mount for it.

 

edit: Just noticed it is actually the Yeti. Either way it is just not fit for that usage scenario.

[xnamkcor]

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8460/7971986792_36e1457da0_b.jpg

[dbinoj]

Linus gibberish

Looks like a timestamp to me. Not gibberish 

[rilesjenkins]

If anyone's looking for the Shia Labeuf/Linus video that he was talking about it's here:

[MAXXHEW]

I wanna see some see some next level Virtual Reality.  After all these years AMD showed losses and not much new... it's great to see a killer new line of GPU's, ZEN, Mantle/DX12/Vulcan, HBM, company restructuring/splitting and promoting, and rumors of a deal with the Windows/XBOX makers Microsoft (who recently released a completely new OP system, that as I recall includes/will introduce some wild new VR).  Remember all the hype from AMD about their new game changing tech?  Listen/read closely... you can slightly hear how the ass kissing sellout review channels are changing their same old AMD bashing tune... maybe a new era of PC gaming was not just hype from the Red Team.  VR with TrueAudio will be nice... hopefully it's just about to get good!  

[Trik'Stari]

Linus waifu: "Will you be home on time?"

Linus: "If the WAN show goes okay"

Linus waifu: "So you won't be home on time then."

 

 

Dayum, Linus got burned.

[StrangeOne]

I don't really agree with having 64GB as the baseline, but maybe something like 32GB. The original iPhone had 4GB at its lowest price and 4*7 is 28, close enough to 32GB. I'd imagine most iPhone users are very casual and don't need 64GB of storage and even I am not personally against 16GB phones as long as they have expandable storage for my music, pictures and videos, my apps and things that need fast read/write speed don't take up that much space on my phone. Of course there should always be higher storage options since not everyone is like me but not all smaller storage devices are bad. Oh and one last thing $100 for every step up in storage is ridiculous, an extra 48/64GB of storage should not cost me an extra $100.

[79wjd]

I don't really agree with having 64GB as the baseline, but maybe something like 32GB. The original iPhone had 4GB at its lowest price and 4*7 is 28, close enough to 32GB. I'd imagine most iPhone users are very casual and don't need 64GB of storage and even I am not personally against 16GB phones as long as they have expandable storage for my music, pictures and videos, my apps and things that need fast read/write speed don't take up that much space on my phone. Of course there should always be higher storage options since not everyone is like me but not all smaller storage devices are bad. Oh and one last thing $100 for every step up in storage is ridiculous, an extra 48/64GB of storage should not cost me an extra $100.

Making 32gb the baseline wouldn't be advantageous to Apple as it would just discourage people from buying the 64gb model. The way it's set up now, people who don't know better and/or people who don't need the space will get the 16gb version, while people who want more will pay for the 64gb version. If Apple made 32gb the base model, then there wouldn't be a whole lot of incentive to upgrade to the 64gb version (for a very large chunk of those who upgrade to 64gb in the first place).

People are willing to pay $100/$200 for more storage, therefore it would be idiotic of Apple to not charge that much.

[Trik'Stari]

Lol they have some rude ballin ass neighbors.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

.......Did he seriously just use the word "codswallop"?

[ygohome]

Lukes low voice rarely picks up well on the mics. Linus I hear clearly. But everytime Luke speaks, his voice is much lower, and just never picks up on the mic very well. So... I turn up volume to understand and hear Luke... then Linus voice is like YELLING at me. It has been this way since Luke first was introduced on camera in a speaking role (I think that was way back years ago in Linus home). I'm not into Audio Video, but could Luke possible get a mic seperate from Linus and then adjust his voice so we can hear him? This seems like something that should have been discussed already and maybe it has. But I still can't hear Luke. Thanks

[Doctorgear63]

Timestamps since they're not in the description still: 
Warning: This WAN show contains mild innuendo and numerous RIP-Headphone-User moments... so basically like every other WAN show.
0:00 Pre-Intro: WAN Setup, Micro-USB 3 rant, and ... Mammoths?
6:22 INTRO "No More technical difficulties" he said.
7:58 LinusLateTips Again
9:00 Google rolling out Android Pay www.androidauthority.com/android-pay-officially-launched-641280/
15:40 AMD R9 Nano, what is it good for? Absolutely Nothing? www.pcper.com/reviews/graphics-cards/amd-radeon-r9-nano-review
22:15 STRAWPOLL Does it trip you out that Luke & Linus are wearing the same shirt? strawpoll.me/5461253/r 23:08 Turnip for President?
24:00 AustinTechTips and Scrapyard Wars 3 tease
25:30 STRAWPOLL R9 Fury Nano strawpoll.me/5461288/r
25:50 NVIDIA AMD Market share discussion
28:18 Linus says Come on
28:23 NickyV says Come on
28:35 STRAWPOLL AMD vs NVIDIA Discrete Graphics strawpoll.me/5461320/r
30:50 LinusFanboyTips
32:34 RIP HEADPHONE USERS
33:22 Linus&LukeBackInTheDayTips
36:34 LinusHouseTips
39:35 Apple Things Happened www.apple.com/apple-events/september-2015/
41:00 Linus Said a Bad word. Apple stuff continues
41:57 RIP HEADPHONE USERS
42:00 Luke's point on Elon Musk
42:28 LinusOCDTips, more Musk
43:29 LinusEvasionTips
44:08 Back to Apple
44:47 Linus&LukeBackInTheDayTips Again
52:05 RIP HEADPHONE USERS
52:37 iPhone 6S Review Tease
53:18 Apple iSurfacePad Pro 3, or something?
1:00:35 New Apple Watch
1:01:32 New Apple TV
1:03:48 SPONSOR www.Lynda.com/WANShow
1:05:21 SPONSOR www.SquareSpace.com
1:07:14 NEW SPONSOR 1Up Box 1UpBox.co/1EMJD1D
1:07:30 RIP HEADPHONE USERS
1:11:50 Pokémon Go Announced for IOS and Android http://www.technobuffalo.com/2015/09/10/pokemon-go-announced-capture-trade-and-battle-pokemon-in-the-real-world/
1:15:49 Jurassic Park to become reality? More Mammoths https://www.the-newshub.com/science/is-a-real-jurassic-park-coming
1:18:04 Amazon's $50 Tablet http://www.wsj.com/articles/amazon-to-release-50-tablet-as-it-struggles-to-sell-pricier-devices-1441653902
1:20:43 Nintendo Cracking Down on Speed-Runners and ROMs http://www.geeksnack.com/2015/09/11/nintendo-cracking-down-on-speed-runners-and-roms/
1:24:02 Just Do it Just Wait Fan Vid:

1:26:44 Sad End to Show
1:27:21 OUTRO

[xnamkcor]

Lukes low voice rarely picks up well on the mics. Linus I hear clearly. But everytime Luke speaks, his voice is much lower, and just never picks up on the mic very well. So... I turn up volume to understand and hear Luke... then Linus voice is like YELLING at me. It has been this way since Luke first was introduced on camera in a speaking role (I think that was way back years ago in Linus home). I'm not into Audio Video, but could Luke possible get a mic seperate from Linus and then adjust his voice so we can hear him? This seems like something that should have been discussed already and maybe it has. But I still can't hear Luke. Thanks

Sounds like a personal handicap. Use an equalizer.

[Speaker1264]

No new news on the AMD/nVidia DX12 thing?

[ygohome]

Sounds like a personal handicap. Use an equalizer.

 

Edit:  Including LinusTech tag since my question is realy toward him rather than another forum user.  Thanks.

@LinusTech

 

I don't have a handicap hearing.  My vision, yes.  But I have excellent hearing, for a 45 yr old. ha.  Really?  no one else has trouble hearing Luke/Slick sometimes?  Most professional setups mic the individuals seperately to control the mix.  But like I said in my previous posting, I'm not a audio video expert.  My question is,  rather than me set up specialized equalizer for this, can LMG fix it on their end?  I mean, I am 45 and a bit lazy since I just click and play.

 

btw, hello Mesa.  I moved a years ago from Flagstaff to Louisiana.  Arizona trails in North Phoenix (Table Mesa area) and Flagstaff I miss often.

 

Thanks.

[xnamkcor]

I don't have a handicap hearing.  My vision, yes.  But I have excellent hearing, for a 45 yr old. ha.  Really?  no one else has trouble hearing Luke/Slick sometimes?  Most professional setups mic the individuals seperately to control the mix.  But like I said in my previous posting, I'm not a audio video expert.  My question is,  rather than me set up specialized equalizer for this, can LMG fix it on their end?  I mean, I am 45 and a bit lazy since I just click and play.

 

btw, hello Mesa.  I moved a years ago from Flagstaff to Louisiana.  Arizona trails in North Phoenix (Table Mesa area) and Flagstaff I miss often.

 

Thanks.

Whether you have a handicap or not, an equalizer will help increase the volume of the ranges of sound which are lacking.

[ColonelSanders21]

 

"[Vessel] asked us, 'well do you want to go with an automated system so that you guys are claiming monetization or pulling down content that features your videos' and I said no, of course not! I love it when people ... take what we've created, and [turn] it into something cool."

 

(I apologize for me butchering that quote, but it's hard when there's two people finishing each other's sentences.)

 

This is funny to hear, as I posted one of these and it got monetized by Fullscreen immediately.

 

 

I understand that you guys are all for community stuff, but this system is obviously already in place whether you're even aware of it or not. I edited that before that moving vlog was even on YouTube, but I waited until it was published by you guys before I uploaded the video, because I wanted to respect your wishes of having Vessel exclusive content. That didn't even matter, I guess.

 

I don't even monetize my stuff because I don't feel like it's worthwhile to get the 0.02 cents I would get from it, and for that particular video I really didn't do all that much to make it. But it still feels like a slap in the face to get something like this, because suddenly the video you edited together isn't yours anymore - it belongs to a corporation, they get whatever profit off of it they can, and they slap ads everywhere (I absolutely loathe the idea of having ads on my videos). 

 

Maybe you guys just weren't aware this is happening. But it is, and it's odd to hear you're against it when it's clearly going on regardless.

 

Here's a link to said video if you wanted to see it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ooXS4MMngI

[xnamkcor]

because suddenly the content you edited together isn't yours anymore

 

It isn't yours.

[ColonelSanders21]

It isn't yours.

 

Right, and I get that. I didn't make any of the footage in that video. But I edited it together. I took two separate videos and mashed them together to make something new., but I didn't produce the content in the first place. They have the right to do what they do when it comes to their content being used.

 

At the same time, though, it's disheartening. My video's not meant to take the place of one of Linus' videos. It's not a re-upload of his content directly (which is what ContentID definitely thinks it is), it's a companion piece to those videos I used. But even though Fullscreen had no input on the creation of my dumb little video, they get 100% of the ad money. They get peanuts from it, but it's just kind of makes you feel down.

 

Take one of my other stupid videos for example (you don't have to watch it if you don't want): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc6MVKw_guw

 

I spent a lot of time on this video. Much more than anyone ever should. But Capcom sees that I used music from Ducktales, so they get all the profit off of my 11 views, block it on mobile, and block it in Germany. They have the legal right to do so, it's their music; but c'mon, it's from the NES version, which they don't even sell anymore, and someone thinking "gee, I sure would love to listen to the music from Ducktales right about now" wouldn't be coming to my video to listen to it. But no; because there's a chance that I could just be uploading the song in it's entirety without any other content, Capcom owns my video.

 

I guess my point is that, although it is completely within people's legal bounds to do this to matched content, it doesn't make it any less of a blow when your work is just tossed aside. I don't make content for a living - I make it because, I hope, somebody gets entertainment out of it. YouTube's ContentID system takes out any sort of human element to these takedowns/monetization (which is necessary for such a huge site, but that doesn't mean ContentID isn't severely flawed). If Linus saw this video directly, I don't think he'd personally go and monetize it; if Hiroshige Tonomura and the team behind Ducktales for the NES saw the other one, I doubt they'd see my video and react in the same way. 

 

I don't own any of the footage in that video; but I own every edit in place there (as small as they may be), and that counts for something.

[xnamkcor]

Right, and I get that. I didn't make any of the footage in that video. But I edited it together. I took two separate videos and mashed them together to make something new., but I didn't produce the content in the first place. They have the right to do what they do when it comes to their content being used.

 

At the same time, though, it's disheartening. My video's not meant to take the place of one of Linus' videos. It's not a re-upload of his content directly (which is what ContentID definitely thinks it is), it's a companion piece to those videos I used. But even though Fullscreen had no input on the creation of my dumb little video, they get 100% of the ad money. They get peanuts from it, but it's just kind of makes you feel down.

 

Take one of my other stupid videos for example (you don't have to watch it if you don't want): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc6MVKw_guw

 

I spent a lot of time on this video. Much more than anyone ever should. But Capcom sees that I used music from Ducktales, so they get all the profit off of my 11 views, block it on mobile, and block it in Germany. They have the legal right to do so, it's their music; but c'mon, it's from the NES version, which they don't even sell anymore, and someone thinking "gee, I sure would love to listen to the music from Ducktales right about now" wouldn't be coming to my video to listen to it. But no; because there's a chance that I could just be uploading the song in it's entirety without any other content, Capcom owns my video.

 

I guess my point is that, although it is completely within people's legal bounds to do this to matched content, it doesn't make it any less of a blow when your work is just tossed aside. I don't make content for a living - I make it because, I hope, somebody gets entertainment out of it. YouTube's ContentID system takes out any sort of human element to these takedowns/monetization (which is necessary for such a huge site, but that doesn't mean ContentID isn't severely flawed). If Linus saw this video directly, I don't think he'd personally go and monetize it; if Hiroshige Tonomura and the team behind Ducktales for the NES saw the other one, I doubt they'd see my video and react in the same way. 

 

I don't own any of the footage in that video; but I own every edit in place there (as small as they may be), and that counts for something.

You hold copyright on the editing, but the original copyright owners still retain ownership of their footage. If you want to bypass YouTube's rules, pay for your own server. It's legal. As a private organisation that is supplying you with a service it has the right to decide what gets put up and who can use their service as long it isn't because of your race, creed, sex, or a few others.

[ColonelSanders21]

You hold copyright on the editing, but the original copyright owners still retain ownership of their footage. If you want to bypass YouTube's rules, pay for your own server. It's legal. As a private organisation that is supplying you with a service it has the right to decide what gets put up and who can use their service as long it isn't because of your race, creed, sex, or a few others.

Yep, it's fine, they can choose to do whatever they want.

 

But that doesn't mean I can't feel slightly peeved by it.

[DomClancy]

From 1:20:00 is where this show really goes a bit nutty. They try and say the intended audiences of LMG and Nintendo are essentially the same... This is where the tech backgrounds and lack of business acumen of Linus and Luke really rears its ugly unsophisticated head. 

You guys are "communicating a message and looking for users to communicate that message back through user content" whereas Nintendo are selling products. The stakes are literally thousands of times greater for Nintendo. Just because a massive entertainment platform of Youtube exists for independent developers to make money through the use of Nintendo's products DOESN'T mean Nintendo are morally obligated to allow and approve of that profit pursuit. LMG is a firm built around information. Nintendo is one built around many many more things.

Object to takedown notices and copyright strikes. Object to the lack of independent opinions outside of traditional media. But rejecting Nintendo's corporate policy of evidently believing its better to maximize control over what informs people's perceptions of their products is asinine and illogical in the extreme. The whole rant is an appeal to nostalgia and emotion - nothing else.