Posted August 25, 2015 Hey guys simple question, with a $225 gpu budget its either a r9 290 or a gtx 960 which is better for scII and LOL at 4k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 25, 2015 R9 290>960 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 25, 2015 290 4GB of Vram on mid-tier card is comical. Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow; Motherboard: MSI ZZ490 Gaming Edge; CPU: i7 10700K @ 5.1GHz; Cooler: Noctua NHD15S Chromax; RAM: Corsair LPX DDR4 32GB 3200MHz; Graphics Card: Asus RTX 3080 TUF; Power: EVGA SuperNova 750G2; Storage: 2 x Seagate Barracuda 1TB; Crucial M500 240GB & MX100 512GB; Keyboard: Logitech G710+; Mouse: Logitech G502; Headphones / Amp: HiFiMan Sundara / Mayflower Objective 2; Monitor: Asus VG27AQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 25, 2015 290 absolutely hands down. Updated 2021 Desktop || 3700x || Asus x570 Tuf Gaming || 32gb Predator 3200mhz || 2080s XC Ultra || MSI 1440p144hz || DT990 + HD660 || GoXLR + ifi Zen Can || Avermedia Livestreamer 513 || New Home Dedicated Game Server || Xeon E5 2630Lv3 || 16gb 2333mhz ddr4 ECC || 2tb Sata SSD || 8tb Nas HDD || Radeon 6450 1g display adapter || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 25, 2015 290 no competition SetupCPU: i3 4160|Motherboard: MSI Z97 PC MATE|RAM: Kingston HyperX Blue 8GB(2x4GB)|GPU: Sapphire Nitro R9 380 4GB|PSU: Seasonic M12II EVO 620W Modular|Storage: 1TB WD Blue|Case: NZXT S340 Black|PCIe devices: TP-Link WDN4800| Montior: ASUS VE247H| Others: PS3/PS4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 25, 2015 Hey guys simple question, with a $225 gpu budget its either a r9 290 or a gtx 960 which is better for scII and LOL at 4k 290 no matter what! http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/334934-unofficial-ltt-beginners-guide/ (by Minibois) and a few things that will make our community interaction more pleasent:1. FOLLOW your own topics 2.Try to QUOTE people so we can read through things easier 3.Use PCPARTPICKER.COM - easy and most importantly approved here 4.Mark your topics SOLVED if they are Don't change a running system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 25, 2015 It's not even close, the 290 smokes the 960. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 25, 2015 Author Ok awesome, I actually couldnt believe that the 290 was 219 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 25, 2015 290 vs 970 would be more fair. So go for the r9 290 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 25, 2015 R9 290 definitely. https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Knaj/saved/cLQ8Mp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 25, 2015 Author so a r9 290 ~ gtx 970? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 26, 2015 GTX 960 < R9 290 < gtx 970 $220 for an r9 290 is a good deal. But just keep in mind that the the r9 290 uses a lot more power and will need a higher grade power supply than the GTX cards. Sometimes I get builder's itch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 26, 2015 GTX 960 < R9 290 < gtx 970 $220 for an r9 290 is a good deal. But just keep in mind that the the r9 290 uses a lot more power and will need a higher grade power supply than the GTX cards. Both can use 80+ bronze Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow; Motherboard: MSI ZZ490 Gaming Edge; CPU: i7 10700K @ 5.1GHz; Cooler: Noctua NHD15S Chromax; RAM: Corsair LPX DDR4 32GB 3200MHz; Graphics Card: Asus RTX 3080 TUF; Power: EVGA SuperNova 750G2; Storage: 2 x Seagate Barracuda 1TB; Crucial M500 240GB & MX100 512GB; Keyboard: Logitech G710+; Mouse: Logitech G502; Headphones / Amp: HiFiMan Sundara / Mayflower Objective 2; Monitor: Asus VG27AQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 26, 2015 Both can use 80+ bronze For a gtx 960 you could get away with a 400-500 watt bronze psu, it needs only 1 6 pin. But yeah, most bronze PSUs that support 2 6 pins should be able to take the 970 or the r9. I just thought it was worth mentioning because the tdp is 100-120 watts difference. Sometimes I get builder's itch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 26, 2015 290. I believe the 290's performance is in between the 960 and 970 or somewhere very close to the 970 The Brokish Boy v1: CPU: i7-8700k GPU: MSI Gaming X GTX ti MOBO: Asus ROG Maximus X Code Ram: G.Skill Trident Z 4x8gb 3200mhz DRIVES: 2x3TB WD Black , 500gb Samsung 850 EVO SSD, 500gb 970 EVO SSD Case: be quiet! Dark Base Pro 900 Black Headphone: ATH-MSR7 Mic: Blue Yeti Monitors: 27" BenQ GW2765 1440p; IPS, 27" Acer Predator XB271HU 1440p; VA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 26, 2015 Both can use 80+ bronze For a gtx 960 you could get away with a 400-500 watt bronze psu, it needs only 1 6 pin. But yeah, most bronze PSUs that support 2 6 pins should be able to take the 970 or the r9. I just thought it was worth mentioning because the tdp is 100-120 watts difference. The efficiency rating of the PSU does not correlate with the power output, though it can relate to the internal build quality of the unit (i.e. capacitors, inductors, and other electrical components used in the voltage filtering stages, etc). You can use a 80 PLUS "regular" rated PSU if one wanted, and it would still be perfectly okay. An example is my Corsair TX850 V1. It just falls short of 80 PLUS Bronze rating, yet, it has powered my system with three HD 5850's, and now two HD 7970's, with no problems at all. TDP is a measurement of HEAT ENERGY, Q, expressed in Wattage. TDP is not solely the power draw/requirement of the graphics card. That's why you can have an AMD and NVidia graphics card with the same power draw rating, but very different TDP. (For more information: First and Second Fundamental Laws of Thermodynamics) Intel Z390 Rig ( *NEW* Primary ) Intel X99 Rig (Officially Decommissioned, Dead CPU returned to Intel) i7-8086K @ 5.1 GHz Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Master Sapphire NITRO+ RX 6800 XT S.E + EKwb Quantum Vector Full Cover Waterblock 32GB G.Skill TridentZ DDR4-3000 CL14 @ DDR-3400 custom CL15 timings SanDisk 480 GB SSD + 1TB Samsung 860 EVO + 500GB Samsung 980 + 1TB WD SN750 EVGA SuperNOVA 850W P2 + Red/White CableMod Cables Lian-Li O11 Dynamic EVO XL Ekwb Custom loop + 2x EKwb Quantum Surface P360M Radiators Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum + Corsair K70 (Red LED, anodized black, Cheery MX Browns) AMD Ryzen Rig AMD R7-5800X Gigabyte B550 Aorus Pro AC 32GB (16GB X 2) Crucial Ballistix RGB DDR4-3600 Gigabyte Vision RTX 3060 Ti OC EKwb D-RGB 360mm AIO Intel 660p NVMe 1TB + Crucial MX500 1TB + WD Black 1TB HDD EVGA P2 850W + White CableMod cables Lian-Li LanCool II Mesh - White Intel Z97 Rig (Decomissioned) Intel i5-4690K @ 4.8 GHz ASUS ROG Maximus VII Hero Z97 Sapphire Vapor-X HD 7950 EVGA GTX 1070 SC Black Edition ACX 3.0 20 GB (8GB X 2 + 4GB X 1) Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600 MHz Corsair A50 air cooler NZXT X61 Crucial MX500 1TB SSD + SanDisk Ultra II 240GB SSD + WD Caviar Black 1TB HDD + Kingston V300 120GB SSD [non-gimped version] Antec New TruePower 550W EVGA G2 650W + White CableMod cables Cooler Master HAF 912 White NZXT S340 Elite w/ white LED stips AMD 990FX Rig (Decommissioned) FX-8350 @ 4.8 / 4.9 GHz (given up on the 5.0 / 5.1 GHz attempt) ASUS ROG Crosshair V Formula 990FX 12 GB (4 GB X 3) G.Skill RipJawsX DDR3 @ 1866 MHz Sapphire Vapor-X HD 7970 + Sapphire Dual-X HD 7970 in Crossfire Sapphire NITRO R9-Fury in Crossfire *NONE* Thermaltake Frio w/ Cooler Master JetFlo's in push-pull Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD + Kingston V300 120GB SSD + WD Caviar Black 1TB HDD Corsair TX850 (ver.1) Cooler Master HAF 932 <> Electrical Engineer , B.Eng <> <> Electronics & Computer Engineering Technologist (Diploma + Advanced Diploma) <> <> Electronics Engineering Technician for the Canadian Department of National Defence <> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 26, 2015 The efficiency rating of the PSU does not correlate with the power output. You can use a 80 PLUS "regular" rated PSU if one wanted, and it would still be perfectly okay. An example is my Corsair TX850 V1. It just falls short of 80 PLUS Bronze rating, yet, it has powered my system with three HD 5850's, and now two HD 7970's, with no problems at all. TDP is a measurement of HEAT ENERGY, Q, expressed in Wattage. TDP is not solely the power draw/requirement of the graphics card. That's why you can have an AMD and NVidia graphics card with the same power draw rating, but very different TDP. I used 80+ Bronze as an example because there is no reason why that shouldn't be the minimum efficiency rating one uses. Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow; Motherboard: MSI ZZ490 Gaming Edge; CPU: i7 10700K @ 5.1GHz; Cooler: Noctua NHD15S Chromax; RAM: Corsair LPX DDR4 32GB 3200MHz; Graphics Card: Asus RTX 3080 TUF; Power: EVGA SuperNova 750G2; Storage: 2 x Seagate Barracuda 1TB; Crucial M500 240GB & MX100 512GB; Keyboard: Logitech G710+; Mouse: Logitech G502; Headphones / Amp: HiFiMan Sundara / Mayflower Objective 2; Monitor: Asus VG27AQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 26, 2015 290 kicks off way more heat and eats more power but it's performance is way better. Arcturus(log here): Intel Core i7 6700K // MSI 980 Ti Gaming 6G(1454/1995) // Kingston HyperX Fury DDR4 2133MHz 16GB // MSI XPower Gaming Titanium Edition // Samsung 850 EVO 500GB // WD Black 2TB // Corsair 760T // Corsair RM850i Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 28, 2015 The efficiency rating of the PSU does not correlate with the power output, though it can relate to the internal build quality of the unit (i.e. capacitors, inductors, and other electrical components used in the voltage filtering stages, etc). You can use a 80 PLUS "regular" rated PSU if one wanted, and it would still be perfectly okay. An example is my Corsair TX850 V1. It just falls short of 80 PLUS Bronze rating, yet, it has powered my system with three HD 5850's, and now two HD 7970's, with no problems at all. TDP is a measurement of HEAT ENERGY, Q, expressed in Wattage. TDP is not solely the power draw/requirement of the graphics card. That's why you can have an AMD and NVidia graphics card with the same power draw rating, but very different TDP. (For more information: First and Second Fundamental Laws of Thermodynamics) Thanks for the info and correcting my terminology (so I can accurately explain this better next time). I understand that the effeciency of the PSU doesn't effect the power output, it's just that bronze or better rated ones tend to have better parts in them (better 12v rail and capacitors), but yes, there's no correlation between those factors. In the end though, the r9 290 does use quite a bit more power than a gtx 970/960 overall. If you're either upgrading a system or building a new one, keep the power supply in mind. A 550w with a strong 40ish amp 12v rail would be the least I would go with for the r9 290. http://www.trustedreviews.com/amd-radeon-r9-290-review-amd-radeon-r9-290-test-results-page-2#tr-review-summary (Shows the power draw on the r9 to be much higher) Sometimes I get builder's itch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 28, 2015 A 290 is an underclocked 390 (or rather a 390 is an overclocked 290) so it has more in common with a 970 than a 960. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 28, 2015 There's honestly no comparison between the two performance wise, the 290 is in a completely different league. The only reason the 960 would possibly be considered in this scenario is if your PSU cannot support a 290 either because it's wattage is too low or because it doesn't have the right/enough connectors. While you're only planning on playing low requirement games like SC2 and LoL the 290 would be a far better choice. "The of and to a in is I that it for you was with on as have but be they" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 28, 2015 290 - it's quite a bit better and since you're thinking of 4K the 960 isn't even an option since it can't even cope with 1440p, let alone 4K - 290 is within spitting distance of the 970 and while demanding games @ 4K won't be easy to run - the ones you specfied will be just right Archangel (Desktop) CPU: i5 4590 GPU:Asus R9 280 3GB RAM:HyperX Beast 2x4GBPSU:SeaSonic S12G 750W Mobo:GA-H97m-HD3 Case:CM Silencio 650 Storage:1 TB WD RedCelestial (Laptop 1) CPU:i7 4720HQ GPU:GTX 860M 4GB RAM:2x4GB SK Hynix DDR3Storage: 250GB 850 EVO Model:Lenovo Y50-70Seraph (Laptop 2) CPU:i7 6700HQ GPU:GTX 970M 3GB RAM:2x8GB DDR4Storage: 256GB Samsung 951 + 1TB Toshiba HDD Model:Asus GL502VTWindows 10 is now MSX! - http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/440190-can-we-start-calling-windows-10/page-6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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