Windows 10 - Free way for MS to spy on you?

[Jumals]

So I've read tons of articles about this, but could someone tell me how accurate all of this is?
How this "spying out" really happens.

Does they really snoop around your PC and collect data etc.
I mean a lot of people do things which are less legal...*cough* piracy *cough*

My tinfoil hat is on pretty tight when something like this is happening.

 

[Aytex]

bunch of buill shit

 

 

unless you have alot of hentai octapus porn and pirated games. then your fine....

[Syntaxvgm]

They data mine

Whether or not like the NSA forced MS to have a back door or something is a complete separate issue from how secure 10 appears. 

[Zeke]

bunch of buill shit

 

 

unless you have alot of hentai octapus porn and pirated games. then your fine....

What about pirated hentai octopus porn games?

[manikyath]

i've had enough of the tinfoil "ms is spying on you" articles to the point i'm *actually* working on switching to linux...

[Syntaxvgm]

bunch of buill shit

 

 

unless you have alot of hentai octapus porn and pirated games. then your fine....

so as long as you have nothing to hide 

[Syntaxvgm]

What about pirated hentai octopus porn games?

this man is asking the right questions 

[Kherm]

bull shit. 

 

bunch of buill shit

 

 

unless you have alot of hentai octapus porn and pirated games. then your fine....

Actually, not even the pirated games, that's not in the Windows 10 EULA, it's in the Microsoft Software agreement and applies to things like XBOX, Groove Music, Cortana, etc. 

[Guest]

bunch of buill shit

 

 

unless you have alot of hentai octapus porn and pirated games. then your fine....

 

bull shit. 

 

Actually, not even the pirated games, that's not in the Windows 10 EULA, it's in the Microsoft Software agreement and applies to things like XBOX, Groove Music, Cortana, etc. 

 

Care to explain how it's all bullshit? Just curious 

[Jumals]

What if the user turns of all of the stuff that is enabled by the default (Privacy stuff) and uses a local account instead of outlook account.
Does that impact on anything, I mean if MS would really be serious with this, they'd have stuff enabled which you can't turn off or even tinker with.

Also as this all is in their EULA (Far as I know) you can't even complain about it if you have win 10.

[Aytex]

Care to explain how it's all bullshit? Just curious 

to not worry about it. we get spied all the time. no one is safe on the internet and that is a fact... there are ways to bypass everything

[Aytex]

What if the user turns of all of the stuff that is enabled by the default (Privacy stuff) and uses a local account instead of outlook account.

Does that impact on anything, I mean if MS would really be serious with this, they'd have stuff enabled which you can't turn off or even tinker with.

Also as this all is in their EULA (Far as I know) you can't even complain about it if you have win 10.

dosent matter look at my post above this

[Kherm]

Care to explain how it's all bullshit? Just curious 

 

You can turn it off. http://winaero.com/blog/how-to-disable-telemetry-and-data-collection-in-windows-10/ 

 

And this should come as no surprise as Google has been doing it for ages.  

[burnttoastnice]

[Jumals]

You can turn it off. http://winaero.com/blog/how-to-disable-telemetry-and-data-collection-in-windows-10/

 

And this should come as no surprise as Google has been doing it for ages.  

What does this "telemetry" thingy collect exactly?

[Guest]

to not worry about it. we get spied all the time. no one is safe on the internet and that is a fact... there are ways to bypass everything

 

Oh, right, thought you meant it's bullshit that they don't 'spy' on you. 

 

You can turn it off. http://winaero.com/blog/how-to-disable-telemetry-and-data-collection-in-windows-10/

 

And this should come as no surprise as Google has been doing it for ages.  

 

OP asked if it was true, it is, yet you said it's bullshit... When you've just said 'you can turn it off', so obviously isn't bullshit.... 

 

You think they're not collecting data in ways you're not even aware of? 

[Kherm]

What does this "telemetry" thingy collect exactly?

 

Usage data, how you use Cortana, the Store, and programs you open. It basically get filtered to Microsoft, they aggregate the data, and then review it to help make Windows better. 

[Jumals]

I did try windows 10 but I rolled it back soon as this spying thing hit the fan.

I mean I did see my usage of "Bit torrent" in gigabytes I mean, which was pretty odd and got me on my toes.

 

 

E: What I'm trying to figure out is If I go back to windows 10, will it be "safe" I mean is it wise to use windows 10, there is obviously a lot of benefits for using it.

I noticed that all of my games runs better, no stuttering or anything.
 

[omniomi]

 

Most of the data collected is anonymous usage statistics and error reporting which has existed in Windows for as long as I can remember and I'm old. It's also optional. Beyond that there's some different stuff:

 

• Location Data: If you want Cortana to be able to give you relevant information to your location you need this to be turned on... It can also be provided to apps so their experience can be tailored... Automatically spelling something colour instead of color if you're outside the US for example. News flash: every website you visit already knows your location unless you use a VPN or a proxy. Even if you turn off location services in your browser a website can make a decent guess based on your IP/ISP.... 09-29n3-n883.seattle.comcast-internet.com <- Hmm, wonder where this (imaginary) person lives. See here: http://mylocation.org/ - The location settings in Windows just determine if apps/Windows has permission to do what websites do anyway.
• Typed phrases / email / etc for better prediction: This is part of Cortana and the soft keyboard if you use touch. It lets Windows read stuff you write and have written to learn how you talk to better predict what you'll type next. Most of the people bitching about this one probably had no problem turning the exact same thing on inside SwiftKey on Andorid or agreeing to it in the Samsung Galaxy EULA because their keyboard does this too... But MS is evil right guys?
• Better Cortana results: You can let Microsoft track how you search to give you better results. Guess what, Google is already doing this to you when you use Google. When you Google search "homoeopathy" whether the top results are about hows it's bullshit or how it's the best thing ever depend on your search habbits... Same shit, different service. 
• OneDrive: If you store stuff on OneDrive Microsoft can see it... duh? If you store stuff on Dropbox, Dropbox can see it... 
• if you fill out your Outlook profile Microsoft has that information... again... duh?
• Shared WiFi Passwords with Friends: If this is turned on you can OPTIONALLY share passwords to networks you frequent (on a one by one selectable basis) with friends in your contact list. One toggle turns this feature off but while it's on it doesn't just send your WiFi passwords to everyone you have to tell it to share the password for a given network.
• The EULA is scary: Have you ever read an EULA before? Nothing is really different with the Windows EULA now but because of all the online content it contains verbiage from the Outlook EULA, the XBox EULA, the Bing EULA, and so on that you've probably already agreed to elsewhere anyway. Windows can now just do things you used to have to go to the websites to do.

There are 1.25 billion Windows PCs running today... No one is sitting down and looking at this data and going "Oh look, Bob searched for D-Cup Titties on Google Images again but his wife shops for A-Cup bras on Amazon..." They reserve the right to aggrigate data though so someone in the Cortana department could conceivably see "It looks like the mid-west uses Cortana for restaurant recommendations 25% more often than the east coast." They don't care about your individual habits. Any non anonymous tracking is just to provide a better service which is something Google, Bing, Android, Apple/Siri, and so on are all doing already. People need to take their damn tin foil hats off / stop trolling. If you're concerned crank up your privacy settings but no one is creating a dossier on you and if the feds wanted any of that info about you they'll get it even if that means a warrant where they physically take the computer because you were too paranoid to connect it to the internet. 

 

It's always weird... People will be like "I don't want Microsoft to know my personal information" and then turn around and buy something from the Microsoft store and fill out their billing address and credit card info. Uhm... You just gave them your personal information? Or they don't want Microsoft to know their search habbits but it's fine if Google knows even though Google is where you search for your "octo porn" and Cortana is where you search for "Control Panel."

[Jumals]

Thanks omniomi, it makes sense when you put it like that.