Posted August 12, 2015 Well I know that if I press that button on my PC box, it turns on. Pretty great actually. /jk I have a small idea of how it works, but can't say I'm a professional. "We're all in this together, might as well be friends" Tom, Toonami. mini eLiXiVy: my open source 65% mechanical PCB, a build log, PCB anatomy and discussing open source licenses: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1366493-elixivy-a-65-mechanical-keyboard-build-log-pcb-anatomy-and-how-i-open-sourced-this-project/ mini_cardboard: a 4% keyboard build log and how keyboards work: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1328547-mini_cardboard-a-4-keyboard-build-log-and-how-keyboards-work/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 12, 2015 Most instruction sets have a multiply function these days, unless you are working on a really crappy chip, then you can usually just use a shift-and-add... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 12, 2015 Author I'm learning about this right now. Fun fact, computers can't do decimal numbers natively How difficult is it? I don't like 2D games...I just couldn't get into them.. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 12, 2015 or multiplication or division or... I could have explained that a little better, I didn't want to bore everyone to death with floating point mathematics or boolean algebra How difficult is it? It's only the intro classes for that stuff. It's not too bad. Just a lot of math they expect you to be able to do to be able to demonstrate concepts, or did you mean decimal numbers? That would be the floating points I was talking about CPU: Intel Core i7-4770k | Mobo: MSI Mpower Max | Cooling: Cryorig R1 Ultimate w/ XT140 front Fan | GPU: EVGA GTX 770 Dual SC SLI | Case: NZXT H440 | Case Fans: Phanteks PH-140SP x5 | PSU: EVGA Supernova P2 1000W | RAM: 16GB Crucial Ballistix Tactical Tracer | SSD: Kingston HyperX 3k 120GB | HDD: Seagate BarracudeKeyboard: Razer Blackwidow Ultimate 2013 | Mouse: Razer Deathadder 2013 | Headphones: Sennheiser HD438s | Mousepad: Razer Goliathus Control | Monitor 1: Benq XL2430T | Monitor 2: BenQ RL2455HM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 12, 2015 in what? I have no idea what you're talking about Me neither :rolleyes: [spoiler=My PC] Spoiler CPU: Intel Core i7 6700K | COOLER: Corsair H105 | MOBO: ASUS Z170i Gaming Pro AC | RAM: Corsair LPX DDR4 16GB 2400MHz | GPU: EVGA GTX 980 Classified | CASE: BitFenix Prodigy | SSD: Samsung 950 Pro 512GB | PSU: XFX XTR 650W [spoiler= Le Other Stuff] Monitor: BenQ XL2411Z | Keyboard: Ozone Strike Pro | Mouse: A4 Tech X7 F4 | MousePad: Ozone Spoiler Spoiler PlayStation 2 | PSP 2000 | Game Boy Color | Nintendo DS Lite | Nintendo 3DS | Wii Spoiler Sony Xperia J (Why u so bad D:) | iPod 4th gen | iPhone 4 | Yarvik Xenta 13c (3muchchrome5her) Spoiler Spoiler Pentium B980 | 500GB WD Blue | Intel HD Graphixxx | 4Gegabeytes of REHAM Current OS: MSX 10.0 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)Ilikethelennyfaceyouknow( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Windows Password Reset Guide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 12, 2015 That's the point. in what? I have no idea what you're talking about Me neither :rolleyes: sssssshhhhhhhhh....... Main rig on profile VAULT - File Server Spoiler Intel Core i5 11400 w/ Shadow Rock LP, 2x16GB SP GAMING 3200MHz CL16, ASUS PRIME Z590-A, 2x LSI 9211-8i, Fractal Define 7, 256GB Team MP33, 3x 6TB WD Red Pro (general storage), 3x 1TB Seagate Barracuda (dumping ground), 3x 8TB WD White-Label (Plex) (all 3 arrays in their respective Windows Parity storage spaces), Corsair RM750x, Windows 11 Education Sleeper HP Pavilion A6137C Spoiler Intel Core i7 6700K @ 4.4GHz, 4x8GB G.SKILL Ares 1800MHz CL10, ASUS Z170M-E D3, 128GB Team MP33, 1TB Seagate Barracuda, 320GB Samsung Spinpoint (for video capture), MSI GTX 970 100ME, EVGA 650G1, Windows 10 Pro Mac Mini (Late 2020) Spoiler Apple M1, 8GB RAM, 256GB, macOS Sonoma Consoles: Softmodded 1.4 Xbox w/ 500GB HDD, Xbox 360 Elite 120GB Falcon, XB1X w/2TB MX500, Xbox Series X, PS1 1001, PS2 Slim 70000 w/ FreeMcBoot, PS4 Pro 7015B 1TB (retired), PS5 Digital, Nintendo Switch OLED, Nintendo Wii RVL-001 (black) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 12, 2015 I only know basics now, but I'll be taking some classes soon that will show how. Computer engineering is such a boring field to be honest. I tried it for a semester and when back into Computer Science. The technical details about how logic gates work and all of the electrical engineering stuff wasn't lost on me but omg was it hard to pay attention to when all I really wanted to do was programming and assembly of a computer. I decided I don't need to know the technical detail of how a computer actually does it's thing. I just treat individual components like black boxes. I know that if I put this input in I can expect X input out based on reviews and comparisons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 12, 2015 i have no ideea man. all i know is that cpu goes into mobo and stuff like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 13, 2015 And the motherboard is the backbone Or the loving mother of electronics that holds her young close to her. I'm going to punch your face- IN THE FACE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 13, 2015 CPU is a brain, RAM is a brain, storage is a brain, the entire computer is a brain lol Very true. I'm going to punch your face- IN THE FACE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 13, 2015 o/ Computer Science nerd here. I can find my way around a computer's guts pretty easily. Also electronics nerd, which also helps. Remember kids, the only difference between screwing around and science is writing it down. - Adam Savage PHOΞNIX Ryzen 5 1600 @ 3.75GHz | Corsair LPX 16Gb DDR4 @ 2933 | MSI B350 Tomahawk | Sapphire RX 480 Nitro+ 8Gb | Intel 535 120Gb | Western Digital WD5000AAKS x2 | Cooler Master HAF XB Evo | Corsair H80 + Corsair SP120 | Cooler Master 120mm AF | Corsair SP120 | Icy Box IB-172SK-B | OCZ CX500W | Acer GF246 24" + AOC <some model> 21.5" | Steelseries Apex 350 | Steelseries Diablo 3 | Steelseries Syberia RAW Prism | Corsair HS-1 | Akai AM-A1 D.VA coming soon™ xoxo Sapphire Acer Aspire 1410 Celeron 743 | 3Gb DDR2-667 | 120Gb HDD | Windows 10 Home x32 Vault Tec Celeron 420 | 2Gb DDR2-667 | Storage pending | Open Media Vault gh0st Asus K50IJ T3100 | 2Gb DDR2-667 | 40Gb HDD | Ubuntu 17.04 Diskord Apple MacBook A1181 Mid-2007 Core2Duo T7400 @2.16GHz | 4Gb DDR2-667 | 120Gb HDD | Windows 10 Pro x32 Firebird//Phoeniix FX-4320 | Gigabyte 990X-Gaming SLI | Asus GTS 450 | 16Gb DDR3-1600 | 2x Intel 535 250Gb | 4x 10Tb Western Digital Red | 600W Segotep custom refurb unit | Windows 10 Pro x64 // offisite backup and dad's PC Saint Olms Apple iPhone 6 16Gb Gold Archon Microsoft Lumia 640 LTE Gulliver Nokia Lumia 1320 Werkfern Nokia Lumia 520 Hydromancer Acer Liquid Z220 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 13, 2015 I understand how all the inners of a PC work. From the pins going from the Power button to the motherboard Setup1 onboard. To the CPU running on North Bridge, while the two PCI-e operate on either North or South Bridge. The PCI-E closest to the CPU operates on the North Bridge (A Bridge that communicates with peripherals like Memory, CPU, L2 Cache, PCI, and AGP activities) seperated by two PCI which slower than PCI-e much like DVI running slower than HDMI. and coming in at last is the second PCI-E that could also run on the North Bridge but usually is located on the South Bridge chipset. (The South Bridge controls hard drives, optical drives, power regulation, I/O, and Serial Buses like USB 2.0. Behind the Motherboard, is the chipset. Which is an integrated number of circuitry that operates the entire motherboard and all peripherals connected to it. It connects everything to everything, and operates mainly in distinctive bridges. (As I've mentioned earlier) A Motherboard houses many pin receptacles (Some for main ATI Power, some for HD audio input some for H.D.D. LEDS and Power.) These receptacles can operate on a faster bridge (At least the Power). But usually fall under South Bridge where it transmits data between the Pin and the attune. I could go on..but it's a very long explanatory process which I am not up for. But, I hope this kind of helps give you an idea of how I believe the computer works. Citations: Knowledge and Experience. Regards, Cyber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 13, 2015 Having a computer science minor helps. Although, honestly I learn more about computers from Linus and Luke than I did in college. I know a lot of the low-level activity that happens. I've designed logic and circuit diagrams and designed the circuitry for a simple computer, but that sort of knowledge isn't terribly useful unless you want to build a computer from absolute scratch. i7 3820 -- 8 GB RAM -- Zotac GTX 970 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 13, 2015 See you have this thing called a CPU and it has lots of very small things inside of it which turn on and off, then your OS thinks, "Eh! That is doing stuff" Then it talks to his buddy the GPU to display something on the screen. (most likely porn, shh... don't tell mom). Technology Entertainment Creativity Technology Electricity Control Technology Electronics Computers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 13, 2015 i wish i had that old apple computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 13, 2015 Author Having a computer science minor helps. Although, honestly I learn more about computers from Linus and Luke than I did in college. I know a lot of the low-level activity that happens. I've designed logic and circuit diagrams and designed the circuitry for a simple computer, but that sort of knowledge isn't terribly useful unless you want to build a computer from absolute scratch. How difficult are the concepts to grasp? I don't like 2D games...I just couldn't get into them.. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 13, 2015 How difficult are the concepts to grasp? It is a very logic intenstive. You have to be really solid on that. For most people including programmers its just going to be confusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 13, 2015 Most people that drive a car have little concern for how it works, so long as it does work. CPU: Intel 5930k cooled by H110i GT Mobo: MSI X99S XPower AC RAM: 32GB Dominator Platinum 2800mhz GPU: 2x MSi Lightning 290x SSD: 512GB 850 Pro HDD: 4&2TB WD Black PSU: Corsair AX1500i Case: Corsair 900D Monitor: 3xVG248QE Keyboard: Logitech G910 Orion Spark Mouse: Logitech G700s Headset: Astro A50 I like chocolate milk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 14, 2015 Author Most people that drive a car have little concern for how it works, so long as it does work. True but most people don't build their cars I don't like 2D games...I just couldn't get into them.. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 14, 2015 True but most people don't build their cars Most people don't build their computers or phones. CPU: Intel 5930k cooled by H110i GT Mobo: MSI X99S XPower AC RAM: 32GB Dominator Platinum 2800mhz GPU: 2x MSi Lightning 290x SSD: 512GB 850 Pro HDD: 4&2TB WD Black PSU: Corsair AX1500i Case: Corsair 900D Monitor: 3xVG248QE Keyboard: Logitech G910 Orion Spark Mouse: Logitech G700s Headset: Astro A50 I like chocolate milk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 14, 2015 It depends on how far you want to take the question, there is no one person in the world who knows every single step to making a computer from scratch. That is the beauty of humanity, cumulative knowledge and experience. since we can all specialize in our own little areas, when we work together we can make some pretty amazing things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 14, 2015 How difficult are the concepts to grasp? Not very. The basics are very simple to follow. The more complicated circuitry can be a little confusing but if you can see how they're laid out and used, it's fairly easy to understand. It's when you start getting circuits to work together to actually make a computer that things get a little complex. If you wanna try making circuits, there's a program we used called Logisim. http://www.cburch.com/logisim/ They have tutorials and stuff if you need it and I'm sure YouTube has video tutorials too http://www.cburch.com/logisim/docs/2.1.0/guide/index.html i7 3820 -- 8 GB RAM -- Zotac GTX 970 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 14, 2015 To quote Joel from Vinesauce... Basically, electric shenanigans. I fucking love Joel Yes I know this is a late reply to something, but Joel is awesome. Spoiler Senor Shiny: Main- CPU Intel i7 6700k 4.7GHz @1.42v | RAM G.Skill TridentZ CL16 3200 | GPU Asus Strix GTX 1070 (2100/2152) | Motherboard ASRock Z170 OC Formula | HDD Seagate 1TB x2 | SSD 850 EVO 120GB | CASE NZXT S340 (Black) | PSU Supernova G2 750W | Cooling NZXT Kraken X62 w/Vardars Secondary (Plex): CPU Intel Xeon E3-1230 v3 @1.099v | RAM Samsun Wonder 16GB CL9 1600 (sadly no oc) | GPU Asus GTX 680 4GB DCII | Motherboard ASRock H97M-Pro4 | HDDs Seagate 1TB, WD Blue 1TB, WD Blue 3TB | Case Corsair Air 240 (Black) | PSU EVGA 600B | Cooling GeminII S524 Spoiler (Deceased) DangerousNotDell- CPU AMD AMD FX 8120 @4.8GHz 1.42v | GPU Asus GTX 680 4GB DCII | RAM Samsung Wonder 8GB (CL9 2133MHz 1.6v) | Motherboard Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z | Cooling EVO 212 | Case Rosewill Redbone | PSU EVGA 600B | HDD Seagate 1TB DangerousNotDell New Parts For Main Rig Build Log, Señor Shiny I am a beautiful person. The comments for your help. I have to be a good book. I have to be a good book. I have to be a good book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 14, 2015 I used to know how the fetch execute cycle went on a CPU but that was only for my computing AS level. Dropped it so yeah it's been a year since I've ever needed to remember how it works. Setup: i5 4670k @ 4.2 Ghz, Corsair H100i Cooler, Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB Ram @ 1600 Mhz, MSI Z87-GD65 Motherboard, Corsair GS700 2013 edition PSU, MSI GTX 770 Lightning, Samsung EVO 120 SSD + 2TB&1TB Seagate Barracudas, BenQ XL2411T Monitor, Sennheiser HD 598 Headphones + AntLion ModMic 4.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 14, 2015 The whole thing? That would take someone with close to a PhD in Computer Science, along with years and years of knowledge. I doubt anyone here is at that level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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