dying Old PC vs new and wait for pascal?

[Aphala]

How is a DDR4 platform like Skylake more money? 6700K is 30 euro more then the 4790K right now. DDR4 is the same price as DDR3. The only more expensive part is the motherboard, but that will change in a few weeks/months.

 

And yes faster memory like 2400Mhz sometimes gets +5FPS more then the ancient 1333mhz memory I have now. And for other things like video-editing is also better.

 

I hope to get myself a 8X2 3000Mhz DDR4 kit, if it's not that more expensive over 2133 or 2400Mhz

DDR4 is FAR more expensive than DDR3 almost twice as if not more than DDR3 in most cases.

 

DDR4 ^

 

DDR3^

 

A will agree on faster memory for heavy render machines since that's when high clocks and timings on DDR really comes in handy, but I wouldn't bother upgrading to Skylake when i7 4XXX series doesn't even need to be upgraded it would be completely pointless, I would say upgrade when the i7 7XXX/8XXX series to roll out before making a jump.

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

I'd suggest getting the Phanteks Enthoo Pro instead of the H440 if you're gonna be putting 2 980 Tis is there. 

[TheConverter]

I'd suggest getting the Phanteks Enthoo Pro instead of the H440 if you're gonna be putting 2 980 Tis is there. 

 

Corsair 540 Master Race

 

[TheConverter]

DDR4 is FAR more expensive than DDR3 almost twice as if not more than DDR3 in most cases.

 

DDR4 ^

 

DDR3^

 

A will agree on faster memory for heavy render machines since that's when high clocks and timings on DDR really comes in handy, but I wouldn't bother upgrading to Skylake when i7 4XXX series doesn't even need to be upgraded it would be completely pointless, I would say upgrade when the i7 7XXX/8XXX series to roll out before making a jump.

 

What the fuck? Do you really compare the price of a 8GB kit vs a 16GB kit. Also why do you use Amazon for computer parts? 

 

As i've shown you, 16GB of DDR3 is only 30 euro more then 16GB of DDR4. Do you think that 30 euro matters when you are building a +2000 euro computer?

[Gauzl]

Hello guys,first post here and big fan of Linus

Sorry if this post is in the wrong place

So my PC is around 13 years old

with GA-P35-DS3R as the motherboard and ancient 6 GM of Rams, Intel Core 2 Quad @ 2.4 Ghz and GTX 680 card.

So it is about time I upgrade to a whole new motherboard and PC not to mention the state of my current case is saddening as shown here

I was looking online I found this complete package deal from CyberpowerPC.

Here are the specs and price.

PRICE: 2800

CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-5820K Six-Core 3.30GHz 15MB Intel Smart Cache LGA2011-V3

MEMORY: 16GB (4GBx4) DDR4/2800MHz Quad Channel Memory [-178] (ADATA XPG Z1)

MOTHERBOARD: ASRock X99 Extreme4/3.1 ATX w/Intel GbeLAN, 4x Gen3 PCIe x16, 1 PCIe x1,1x M.2, 10x SATA 6Gb/s [+78]

OVERCLOCK: Extreme OC (Extreme Overclock 20% or more) [+49]

GPU VIDEO: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti Hydro Copper 6GB GDDR5 PCIe 3.0 x16 Video Card (Maxwell) [+219] (Single Card)

Extra details:

CARE2: Cooler Master Thermal Fusion 400 Extreme Performance CPU - Thermal Compound Optimized for Thermal Dissipation [+10]

CAS: CFI Boreallight w/ USB 3.0, EZ Swap HDD, 2x 120mm & 1x 140mm fans, Side Panel Window [-50] (Black Color)

CS_FAN: Maximum Thermaltake Riing 14 Series High Static Pressure 140mm Case/Radiator Fan [+49] (Red Color LED)

FAN: Deepcool Captain 360 360MM CPU Liquid Cooler [+55] (6 x Tt Riing 12 Series Case/Radiator Fans (Push-Pull)(ORANGE) [+72])

HDD: 256GB SANDISK + 3TB SATA III Hard Drive Combo (Combo Drive)

NOISEREDUCE1: Sound Absorbing Foam on Side, Top And Bottom panels [+29]

NOISEREDUCE2: Anti-Vibration Fan Mounts [+9]

TUNING: Intel® Core™ i7-5820K Performance Tuning Protection Plan by Intel [+29]

POWERSUPPLY: 850 Watts - Corsair RM850 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Fully Modular Ultra Quiet Power Supply [+92]

WNC: TP-LINK Archer T8E AC1750 Wireless Dual Band PCI Express Card [+69]

What do you guys think? Stick with these or change some of the specs for a better option with a bit more $ I am kind of flexible up to 3k$ and also up to 1 year in term of waiting time for a new PC if the new specs are worth it.

Also what exactly is the difference between this GTX 980ti Hydro Copper (which seems to be a very new addition) vs the normal one? Do we have any direct comparison between it and TitanX or GTX 980?

And one final question. Should I wait for the new nvidia pascal GPUs? I heard they are 10X faster and they should be released in early to mid 2016. I can wait if it is as they claim 10X better.

Thanks

Don't buy a GPU with a waterblock pre installed, makes it a lot harder to sell in the future and you may not like the hydro copper waterblock.

[Aphala]

What the fuck? Do you really compare the price of a 8GB kit vs a 16GB kit. Also why do you use Amazon for computer parts? 

 

As i've shown you, 16GB of DDR3 is only 30 euro more then 16GB of DDR4. Do you think that 30 euro matters when you are building a +2000 euro computer?

Not sure if you are an idiot but I am starting to think you are.

 

Since you clearly can't tell an arse from an elbow I will show you AGAIN.

 

https://gyazo.com/d804f74b5fb854a55ab54d0df8078e1a < DDR3 @ £105 base value

 

https://gyazo.com/5013505746ff3dbf3fd2ba28c153f941 < DDR4 @ £204 base value

 

Now I will give you the benefit of the doubt and consider currency and what not, but CLEARLY there is a £100 DIFFERENCE if you are using sale prices then you are just being a tool.

 

£100 is a make or break for anyone given that DDR3 @ 1600mhz is going to last 6 or so years before it become dated, given our previous replies that rendering does in fact get a boost on higher clocked and DDR4 > DDR3 when it comes to high end rendering / 3D mode creating like application such as AutoCAD I know this FACT because working for a company that uses AutoCAD daily ram speeds are VERY important as well as CPU but that's another topic which I couldn't give you a good answer on since CPU's are not my area.

 

EDIT: I was at work when I took those screenshots so they weren't the best example. Bare that in mind

[TheConverter]

Not sure if you are an idiot but I am starting to think you are.

 

Since you clearly can't tell an arse from an elbow I will show you AGAIN.

 

https://gyazo.com/d804f74b5fb854a55ab54d0df8078e1a < DDR3 @ £105 base value

 

https://gyazo.com/5013505746ff3dbf3fd2ba28c153f941 < DDR4 @ £204 base value

 

Now I will give you the benefit of the doubt and consider currency and what not, but CLEARLY there is a £100 DIFFERENCE if you are using sale prices then you are just being a tool.

 

£100 is a make or break for anyone given that DDR3 @ 1600mhz is going to last 6 or so years before it become dated, given our previous replies that rendering does in fact get a boost on higher clocked and DDR4 > DDR3 when it comes to high end rendering / 3D mode creating like application such as AutoCAD I know this FACT because working for a company that uses AutoCAD daily ram speeds are VERY important as well as CPU but that's another topic which I couldn't give you a good answer on since CPU's are not my area.

 

EDIT: I was at work when I took those screenshots so they weren't the best example. Bare that in mind

 

Just look at your stupid screenshots, can't you see that you are comparing 16GB sets versus 8GB sets? Is that fair?

 

 

 

Crucial Ballistix DDR3 1600Mhz:  http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/315313/crucial-ballistix-sport-bls2cp8g3d1609ds1s00ceu.html

Corsair Vengeance Pro 2400Mhz: http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/353138/corsair-vengeance-pro-cmy16gx3m2a2400c11r.html

Crucial Ballistix Sport DDR4 2400Mhz: http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/420415/crucial-ballistix-sport-bls2c8g4d240fsa.html

 

So DDR4 is only 34.65€ more expensive, or even 15.01€ if you compare it to the same speed DDR3. And no it's no a freaking sale on Amazon.

[Nena Trinity]

Get a new mobo, CPU & ram if they are DDR2 also maybe a new PSU for safety? But the GTX 680 is better than 960 or equal so keep that untill Pascal!

 

Also why Pascal 300 series are nice bang for your moneyz! :3

[TheConverter]

Get a new mobo, CPU & ram if they are DDR2 also maybe a new PSU for safety? But the GTX 680 is better than 960 or equal so keep that untill Pascal!

 

Also why Pascal 300 series are nice bang for your moneyz! :3

 

He has 3000 CAD to spend, why not get a 980Ti for 1/4 of his budget?

 

It will bottleneck a bit.. maybe 10-15% but yeah.. games like Witcher 3 have 30-40% usage on my old 1st gen quad core.

[Nena Trinity]

He has 3000 CAD to spend, why not get a 980Ti for 1/4 of his budget?

 

It will bottleneck a bit.. maybe 10-15% but yeah.. games like Witcher 3 have 30-40% usage on my old 1st gen quad core.

680 is a decent card and he could save some cash for Pascal if he want that. (980ti & Fury X are good to)

[TheConverter]

680 is a decent card and he could save some cash for Pascal if he want that. (980ti & Fury X are good to)

 

Pascal won't be better then 980Ti, you want to know why? Because Nvidia will never release a Ti card at launch of Pascal, so all we will get is a GTX 1080 which will perform the same as a 980Ti or worse

 

After 6-12 months Nvidia will release a new Titan card which will be better and then after a few more months a 1080Ti

[Aphala]

@TheConverter

 

Are you even listen to yourself!?

 

EVERYTHING you have shown me is on SALE!

 

Amazon Prime = Sale prices

The others = On sale...

 

You have just proven my point, thanks you clearly make no sense so at this point I bid you adieu.

 

Dodgy advice.

[79 Potatoes]

Since when a C2Q is 13 years old?

[Nena Trinity]

Pascal won't be better then 980Ti, you want to know why? Because Nvidia will never release a Ti card at launch of Pascal, so all we will get is a GTX 1080 which will perform the same as a 980Ti or worse

 

After 6-12 months Nvidia will release a new Titan card which will be better and then after a few more months a 1080Ti

Are you sure it wont be named 18 or 108? The card was 9000 series long ago!

[TheConverter]

Are you sure it wont be named 18 or 108? The card was 9000 series long ago!

 

GTX 080TI  :rolleyes:

[raladin3D]

Since when a C2Q is 13 years old?

 

"So my PC is around 13 years old

with GA-P35-DS3R as the motherboard, 6 GM of Rams, Intel Core 2 Quad @ 2.4 Ghz and GTX 680 card."

 

The 13 years is for the Motherboard where the CPU is around 9 years old (since it was released in 07). I used Around for that reason.

[raladin3D]

Get a new mobo, CPU & ram if they are DDR2 also maybe a new PSU for safety? But the GTX 680 is better than 960 or equal so keep that untill Pascal!

 

Also why Pascal 300 series are nice bang for your moneyz! :3

 

Thanks, but I am very picky when it comes to playing video games and movies. I am literally the kind of guy who if the movie being watched is not AT LEAST 1080p can't watch it. Same idea with Video games, if I can't put all the graphics on Ultra (including filtering) I just can't play the game. I feel like I a missing an experience.... of course I would downgrade a bit if the game is of a franchise that I truly love such as Assassin's creed or Soul reaver.

 

I had to stop playing Thief because of that.... I just can't do it haha

 

Plus if I wanted the gloomy low graphics I would've bought and settled for a console.....

[79 Potatoes]

"So my PC is around 13 years old

with GA-P35-DS3R as the motherboard, 6 GM of Rams, Intel Core 2 Quad @ 2.4 Ghz and GTX 680 card."

The 13 years is for the Motherboard where the CPU is around 9 years old (since it was released in 07). I used Around for that reason.

The mb was launched in 2007 too, I'd like to know where you got those numbers, if they're from some mb component then I can say that my haswell rig is 7 years old

[raladin3D]

Don't buy a GPU with a waterblock pre installed, makes it a lot harder to sell in the future and you may not like the hydro copper waterblock.

 

Thank you very much for letting me know, I'll definitely keep that in mind! I was just wondering because the increase in FPS is pretty good and compares to higher GPUs

[raladin3D]

The mb was launched in 2007 too, I'd like to know where you got those numbers, if they're from some mb component then I can say that my haswell rig is 7 years old

You might be right

Although I got my info based on this  "Rev. 2002"

[79 Potatoes]

You might be right

Although I got my info based on this "Rev. 2002"

That's a revision number.

Anyway, rock that cpu

[raladin3D]

why wait for pascal? as as soon as pascal is out you may as well wait another year for pascal's replacement which will be better still.. and a year on a better ect ect..

Well I am not waiting just for Pascal to be honest. I am more interested and waiting for the new GTX card that is said to be much more improved than the previous Titan X and 980 ti

[raladin3D]

That's a revision number.

Anyway, rock that cpu

Oh hahah, well 8 years is still a pretty long time Not ancient but still long

But yeah man, good cpu  

[GDRRiley]

Big difference in what? In your pocket? Hahahaha

 

Could you give us a link to the website? That PC looks pretty decent in price, but it's not really well balanced.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($498.98 @ DirectCanada)

CPU Cooler: Corsair H55 57.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($66.99 @ NCIX)

Motherboard: ASRock X99 Extreme4/3.1 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($319.25 @ Vuugo)

Memory: A-Data XPG Z1 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory ($388.98 @ Newegg Canada)

Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($104.99 @ DirectCanada)

Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card ($889.99 @ Memory Express)

Case: NZXT H440 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($138.75 @ Vuugo)

Power Supply: Corsair RM 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($173.68 @ DirectCanada)

Total: $2581.61

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-08-06 17:51 EDT-0400

 

Edit: For the same money you can easily get a system with TWO 980Ti's

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($294.98 @ DirectCanada)

CPU Cooler: Corsair H55 57.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($66.99 @ NCIX)

Motherboard: MSI Z97S SLI Krait Edition ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($142.99 @ Newegg Canada)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($139.75 @ Vuugo)

Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($128.75 @ shopRBC)

Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($889.99 @ Memory Express)

Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($889.99 @ Memory Express)

Case: NZXT H440 (White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($138.25 @ Vuugo)

Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($176.99 @ Memory Express)

Total: $2868.68

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-08-06 17:59 EDT-0400

The top build needs a 240mm or 280mm radiator. not a 120mm

[TheConverter]

The top build needs a 240mm or 280mm radiator. not a 120mm

 

Meh, H55 is the best 120mm cooler but I agree. If he isn't overclocking it's enough.