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Hello. Let me just say that the furthest I've gone with building a new pc was putting in a graphics card.

 

So, now that's out of the way, I wanted to know if there was a good budget CPU that can handle gaming no problem. I'm already thinking about an AMD CPU, but $99.99 seems too good for a 6 core 3.5 GHz processor. And are there any benefits for using an Intel CPU? Please let me know!

 

Also, the CPU I'm currently using is an Intel Pentium 2.6 GHz 2 core.

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Hello. Let me just say that the furthest I've gone with building a new pc was putting in a graphics card.

 

So, now that's out of the way, I wanted to know if there was a good budget CPU that can handle gaming no problem. I'm already thinking about an AMD CPU, but $99.99 seems too good for a 6 core 3.5 GHz processor. And are there any benefits for using an Intel CPU? Please let me know!

 

Also, the CPU I'm currently using is an Intel Pentium 2.6 GHz 2 core.

Its not actually 6 cores, its kinda like hyper threading so 3 cores 6 threads. In single threaded applications (light games, web browsing) get intel. If you are doing multi core apps (gaming, light vid editing get the FX 6300

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fx 6300<i3 <fx 8350<i5

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Well, that seems more than enough for my book. I mean, light games and web browsing work perfectly on my CPU. And I'm not really looking to crush games like Crysis 3 on ultra with this thing. More stuff like Battlefield 4 or Arkham Knight (when Rocksteady finally fixes it.)

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Its not actually 6 cores, its kinda like hyper threading so 3 cores 6 threads. In single threaded applications (light games, web browsing) get intel. If you are doing multi core apps (gaming, light vid editing get the FX 6300

NOT true!

 

intel hyperthreads not AMD.

 

AMD has true 6 core CPUs.

AMD cores are hotter and not as effecient as intel cores. intel's per core performance is much better.

this means that even though intel CPUs don't have as many cores, they are much better at single core use.

 

AMD is for people who don't have a bunch of cash, and don't need much single core performance. such as multi tasking.

intel is better for gaming, while AMD is better for virtual machines.

 

OP, follow your thread.

We can't Benchmark like we used to, but we have our ways. One trick is to shove more GPUs in your computer. Like the time I needed to NV-Link, because I needed a higher HeavenBench score, so I did an SLI, which is what they called NV-Link back in the day. So, I decided to put two GPUs in my computer, which was the style at the time. Now, to add another GPU to your computer, costs a new PSU. Now in those days PSUs said OCZ on them, "Gimme 750W OCZs for an SLI" you'd say. Now where were we? Oh yeah, the important thing was that I had two GPUs in my rig, which was the style at the time! They didn't have RGB PSUs at the time, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big green ones. 

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NOT true!

 

intel hyperthreads not AMD.

 

AMD has true 6 core CPUs.

AMD cores are hotter and not as effecient as intel cores. intel's per core performance is much better.

this means that even though intel CPUs don't have as many cores, they are much better at single core use.

 

AMD is for people who don't have a bunch of cash, and don't need much single core performance. such as multi tasking.

intel is better for gaming, while AMD is better for virtual machines.

I ment like hyper threading i know intel has hyper threading.

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I ment like hyper threading i know intel has hyper threading.

yes, but it is actually 6 cores.

Its not actually 6 cores, its kinda like hyper threading so 3 cores 6 threads. In single threaded applications (light games, web browsing) get intel. If you are doing multi core apps (gaming, light vid editing get the FX 6300

We can't Benchmark like we used to, but we have our ways. One trick is to shove more GPUs in your computer. Like the time I needed to NV-Link, because I needed a higher HeavenBench score, so I did an SLI, which is what they called NV-Link back in the day. So, I decided to put two GPUs in my computer, which was the style at the time. Now, to add another GPU to your computer, costs a new PSU. Now in those days PSUs said OCZ on them, "Gimme 750W OCZs for an SLI" you'd say. Now where were we? Oh yeah, the important thing was that I had two GPUs in my rig, which was the style at the time! They didn't have RGB PSUs at the time, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big green ones. 

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yes, but it is actually 6 cores.

No AMD just advertises it as 6 cores its something like 2 3 core modules

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No AMD just advertises it as 6 cores its something like 2 3 core modules

it's three sets of two cores.

either way, it's really 6 cores.

 

if you cut it open it's 6 cores. 6 physical processors.

 

unlike intel's "8" cores, which are 4 cores hyperthreaded.

4 physical, 8 logical.

We can't Benchmark like we used to, but we have our ways. One trick is to shove more GPUs in your computer. Like the time I needed to NV-Link, because I needed a higher HeavenBench score, so I did an SLI, which is what they called NV-Link back in the day. So, I decided to put two GPUs in my computer, which was the style at the time. Now, to add another GPU to your computer, costs a new PSU. Now in those days PSUs said OCZ on them, "Gimme 750W OCZs for an SLI" you'd say. Now where were we? Oh yeah, the important thing was that I had two GPUs in my rig, which was the style at the time! They didn't have RGB PSUs at the time, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big green ones. 

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AMD is usually considered the "budget" option considering the fact that the highest-performance intel CPU is about 5000x better than the highest-performance AMD CPU.

 

AMD CPUs usually give you more physical cores for the money. But there is a drawback. These cores aren't the fastest. The intel cores give you much better per-core performance. Which is better for gaming/multitasking. A 4 core intel CPU can greatly outperform an 8 core AMD CPU. AMD products also put off a lot more heat than intel products, so if you want to overclock you will be spending much more on cooling.

 

Also, you current CPU is an intel CPU, so you could spend much less money on an entirely new motherboard because your new CPU may use the same socket. (and seeing that you have very little computer-building experience, I don't think you want to be swapping any motherboards anytime soon.)

 

And, seeing that you are a fairly new member to the forum, Welcome! And don't forget to follow your topic to get notifications on replies when the poster doesn't quote/tag you.

 

 

 

EDIT: @ I beat the "'followYourThread' knight". You're not living up to your potential.

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fx 6300<i3 <fx 8350<i5

FX 6300 < A10 7870k/ Athlon X4 860k < i3/G3258 < FX 8320e/8370e (simply cuz it overclocks better then 8350 and performs pretty much the same at lower temps) < i5 < i7 LGA 1150 < i7 LGA 2011-V3 < high end Opteron (cuz you can mobos with 4 of these monsters) < XEON

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FX 6300 < A10 7870k/ Athlon X4 860k < i3/G3258 < FX 8320e/8370e (simply cuz it overclocks better then 8350 and performs pretty much the same at lower temps) < i5 < i7 LGA 1150 < i7 LGA 2011-V3 < high end Opteron (cuz you can mobos with 4 of these monsters) < XEON

g3258 should be along with 860k, because i3 is quite a bit better.

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AMD is usually considered the "budget" option considering the fact that the highest-performance intel CPU is about 5000x better than the highest-performance AMD CPU.

 

AMD CPUs usually give you more physical cores for the money. But there is a drawback. These cores aren't the fastest. The intel cores give you much better per-core performance. Which is better for gaming/multitasking. A 4 core intel CPU can greatly outperform an 8 core AMD CPU. AMD products also put off a lot more heat than intel products, so if you want to overclock you will be spending much more on cooling.

 

Also, you current CPU is an intel CPU, so you could spend much less money on an entirely new motherboard because your new CPU may use the same socket. (and seeing that you have very little computer-building experience, I don't think you want to be swapping any motherboards anytime soon.)

 

And, seeing that you are a fairly new member to the forum, Welcome! And don't forget to follow your topic to get notifications on replies when the poster doesn't quote/tag you.

 

 

EDIT: @ I beat the "'followYourThread' knight". You're not living up to your potential.

highest performing intel cots 15000x highest performing AMD processor. So that only makes sense.

That being said... At this point, AMD CPus are just outdated and old, BUT. Their performance is perfectly OK, and not a single spec of dust better then JUST ENOUGH.

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g3258 should be along with 860k, because i3 is quite a bit better.

i rated it there due to single core performance. Sure the i3 is better, but in general, i3 4330 vs 860k / 7870k with same mid range GPU performs the same in games. i3 is just better in general, while in gaming they are pretty equal (4 "cores" is sort of equalling 2 cores + HT in gaming). That being said, 7870k/860k tops out at 280X, while an i3 can get a 290, maybe even a 290X without bottlenecking.

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i rated it there due to single core performance. Sure the i3 is better, but in general, i3 4330 vs 860k / 7870k with same mid range GPU performs the same in games. i3 is just better in general, while in gaming they are pretty equal (4 "cores" is sort of equalling 2 cores + HT in gaming). That being said, 7870k/860k tops out at 280X, while an i3 can get a 290, maybe even a 290X without bottlenecking.

yeah, but g3258 is still not in the same class as an i3, it's comparable to 860k. pentium doesn't even run in some games and in others it has very bad minimum fps like gta v for example, which leads to lag spikes.

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EDIT: @ I beat the "'followYourThread' knight". You're not living up to your potential.

 

 

you missed my first post?

We can't Benchmark like we used to, but we have our ways. One trick is to shove more GPUs in your computer. Like the time I needed to NV-Link, because I needed a higher HeavenBench score, so I did an SLI, which is what they called NV-Link back in the day. So, I decided to put two GPUs in my computer, which was the style at the time. Now, to add another GPU to your computer, costs a new PSU. Now in those days PSUs said OCZ on them, "Gimme 750W OCZs for an SLI" you'd say. Now where were we? Oh yeah, the important thing was that I had two GPUs in my rig, which was the style at the time! They didn't have RGB PSUs at the time, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big green ones. 

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you missed my first post?

 

Did I actually miss that? or did you just edit that in? (insert Illuminati music)

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yeah, but g3258 is still not in the same class as an i3, it's comparable to 860k. pentium doesn't even run in some games and in others it has very bad minimum fps like gta v for example, which leads to lag spikes.

http://pclab.pl/art57777-24.html

true that, forgot about the 2core stuff for a moment....

either way, price wise. If money is the question, rather then raw performance

No GPU, only intergrated.

i3 < i5/i7 < i5 5675c (best performance but 300 USD price) < A10 7870k (140 USD... 15-20% worse then i5 5675c, but due to the cost of the Broadwell i5, you can build a whole AMD setup for the same price as the broadwell itself)

With GPU

G3258 + R9 270X (extreme budget) (less then 400 USD total cost)

860k + R9 280X (low budget around 450-500 USD)

i3 + R9 290 TRI-X OC (medium budget around 550 USD)

i5 + R9 390 NITRO/MSI Gaming (upper end casual gamer, close to 750 USD for a good balanced system)

i7 + 980Ti/ 390 CF (better then most of your friends setups. costs around 1200 USD at the very least)

X99 + 980 Ti SLI (if you have friends able to match this system, then you have rich friends)

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I currently have an R7 240 4GB edition, so yeah.

Can you tell us some more about your CPU? Model number for instance?

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it's three sets of two cores.

either way, it's really 6 cores.

 

if you cut it open it's 6 cores. 6 physical processors.

 

unlike intel's "8" cores, which are 4 cores hyperthreaded.

4 physical, 8 logical.

 

Clustered hyperthreading and simultaneous hyperthreading are two different things, sure, but they're still both hyperthreading.

 

 

 

Also, you current CPU is an intel CPU, so you could spend much less money on an entirely new motherboard because your new CPU may use the same socket. (and seeing that you have very little computer-building experience, I don't think you want to be swapping any motherboards anytime soon.)

 

While I agree with your basic point, I don't think it's at all fair to say that beginners shouldn't do motherboard swaps. Physically putting hardware together is absolute child's play, and while replacing a motherboard may be more of a job than replacing, say, a graphics card, it's still incredibly easy. Everybody with half a decent amount of common sense (or ability to read manuals) will be able to do it without trouble.

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Swapping boards is childplay.. seriously..

 

Take your time (like ANYTHING you wanna do correctly) and you'll be fine.

 

Someone who mentions/shows minimum FPS...

 

FX 6300 not even allowing FULL GPU usage.

8350 vs 6300

8350 vs Intel 3770K

 

 

i5 is gunna be about the same as the i7 in gaming performance, probably faster actually as newer Haswell i5's have better performance at the same clocks.

/If I was on a budget, I'd straight up hands down buy a cheap temp i3 Intel CPU and have the ability to use it and upgrade later to something that actually works.

Unlike the FX 6300 for cheap, and having NO upgrade path for enhancing your gaming performance (esp the minimums)

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NOT true!

 

intel hyperthreads not AMD.

 

AMD has true 6 core CPUs.

AMD cores are hotter and not as effecient as intel cores. intel's per core performance is much better.

this means that even though intel CPUs don't have as many cores, they are much better at single core use.

 

AMD is for people who don't have a bunch of cash, and don't need much single core performance. such as multi tasking.

intel is better for gaming, while AMD is better for virtual machines.

 

OP, follow your thread.

And youre not right about AMD cores being ''hotter''.

 

Stop looking at FX 9590 and calling every AMD CPU being hot, go ahead an OC an Intel CPU to 5 GHz and then complain.

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And youre not right about AMD cores being ''hotter''.

 

Stop looking at FX 9590 and calling every AMD CPU being hot, go ahead an OC an Intel CPU to 5 GHz and then complain.

even my old 1090T was hot.

AMD cores at stock speeds are hotter than intel cores at stock speeds.

 

of coarse a massive OC is going to be hot.

We can't Benchmark like we used to, but we have our ways. One trick is to shove more GPUs in your computer. Like the time I needed to NV-Link, because I needed a higher HeavenBench score, so I did an SLI, which is what they called NV-Link back in the day. So, I decided to put two GPUs in my computer, which was the style at the time. Now, to add another GPU to your computer, costs a new PSU. Now in those days PSUs said OCZ on them, "Gimme 750W OCZs for an SLI" you'd say. Now where were we? Oh yeah, the important thing was that I had two GPUs in my rig, which was the style at the time! They didn't have RGB PSUs at the time, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big green ones. 

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even my old 1090T was hot.

AMD cores at stock speeds are hotter than intel cores at stock speeds.

 

of coarse a massive OC is going to be hot.

Intel's equivalent at the time when Phenom 2 was a thing ran even hotter btw.

 

And at stock speeds AMD CPUs are shitloads cooler than Intel's in normal conditions, give me a proof im wrong or go away.

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