Final Solution

[Monarch36]

So earlier this week I posted about upgrading my CPU and motherboard so I won't bottleneck my new GPU, so I have gathered some cash and I figured this

 

CPU - AMD FX 8350 8-Core

Mobo - Gigabyte GA-970A-D3P DDR3 (sorry if I butchered the name) 70$

 

These two to run my new GTX 970 2.0 SSC ACX

 

If anyone has any history with this mobo and CPU combination please feel free to post feedback, OR if you have a better mobo they recommend (preferably around the same price) 

 

Thanks - Monarch

 

 

[Sam Z Man]

Oh God not the FX CPU's.

[Exceptional OCD]

You would be better off with an Intel CPU but I assume you've heard that a lot.

[Nexxus]

If you are gaming, which I assume based on that card...dont.

[bob345]

dont but the 8350 now. At this time it is a horrible waste of money.

[WereCat]

By upgrading from FX 6300 to FX 8350 you will get exactly 0 benefit in gaming except that you will just throw your money away. (Nevermind you have A8 5500). I would suggest you to go for i5 4440/4460.

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The 8350 bottlenecks both my 760s in some games, it will not bottleneck the 970 BUT that is a large waste of money. Go with Intel and wait till skylake so you have room to upgrade.

[Sam Z Man]

Also a 8350 on a 970 motherboard is how you get a melted motherboard.

[itachipirate]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/JDWy8d

 

The 8 core FX CPU really isn't made for gaming

[techguru]

So earlier this week I posted about upgrading my CPU and motherboard so I won't bottleneck my new GPU, so I have gathered some cash and I figured this

 

CPU - AMD FX 8350 8-Core

Mobo - Gigabyte GA-970A-D3P DDR3 (sorry if I butchered the name) 70$

 

These two to run my new GTX 970 2.0 SSC ACX

 

If anyone has any history with this mobo and CPU combination please feel free to post feedback, OR if you have a better mobo they recommend (preferably around the same price) 

 

Thanks - Monarch

how did you come to this conclusion

[Monarch36]

So what im gathering is that everyone is recommending not to even bother with the AMD couple, and instead go Intel?

Does anyone have any specific reasons why i should go with the slower quad core CPU, over the faster 8 core? 

(other than AMD sucks) @itachipirate

[techguru]

So what im gathering is that everyone is recommending not to even bother with the AMD couple, and instead go Intel?

Does anyone have any specific reasons why i should go with the slower quad core CPU, over the faster 8 core? 

(other than AMD sucks) @itachipirate

think of it like this

an old 8 cylinder engine won't be as powerful as a newer 6 cylinder engine

[techguru]

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1198?vs=697

[Monarch36]

@techguru Being a car guy that totally makes sense to me, but with the i5.. would a slower clock and boost speed and cores really make a difference? Also I have limited knowledge of Intel CPU's seeing how i have my one computer build (being AMD)

[techguru]

all you really have to understand is that 95% of the time...intel cpu is the better option..more powerful cores ....doing more instructions at the same time...vs the amd chips

intel also does this with less power and less heat

[Monarch36]

So yes, for gaming your saying the I5 would be a better option? @techguru

[techguru]

So yes, for gaming your saying the I5 would be a better option? @techguru

not even just for gaming

for everything

video editing

production work

etc..

[itachipirate]

So what im gathering is that everyone is recommending not to even bother with the AMD couple, and instead go Intel?

Does anyone have any specific reasons why i should go with the slower quad core CPU, over the faster 8 core? 

(other than AMD sucks) @itachipirate

Don't put it as "Don't bother with AMD" or you'll become a fanboy

 

The FX CPUs are better for servers and other multithreaded/professional applications because of how the architecture is made, they're high core-count CPUs with low per-core performance. The FX CPUs also have an architecture that is several years old (4 years I think?) which is still just a re-hash of an older architecture.

 

The i5-4460 is running 4 more powerful cores which benefits gaming but is worse for server-type loads. The 4460 is also based off of a very new architecture, and has an architecture that handles gaming very well

[Monarch36]

Thanks for the input @itachipirate @techguru so the i5 will not bottleneck the 970? and another thing is, is this i5 the same socket type as the newer i5's like the k series? (4690k)

[techguru]

Thanks for the input @itachipirate @techguru so the i5 will not bottleneck the 970? and another thing is, is this i5 the same socket type as the newer i5's like the k series? (4690k)

yes

all 1150

 

I should probably mention

the new skylake cpu's will be out in the fall

so if you can..I might consider waiting for those

since it will be a new socket type for those

[itachipirate]

Thanks for the input @itachipirate @techguru so the i5 will not bottleneck the 970? and another thing is, is this i5 the same socket type as the newer i5's like the k series? (4690k)

It's the same socket. The 4460 won't bottleneck the GTX 970

[Monarch36]

So i could even ipgrade even further down the line with an even better i5, cool. Hows this for a mobo @itachipirate @techguru

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PVV27ZY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1W7VJMCZRZBUQ

[Sam Z Man]

@techguru Being a car guy that totally makes sense to me, but with the i5.. would a slower clock and boost speed and cores really make a difference? Also I have limited knowledge of Intel CPU's seeing how i have my one computer build (being AMD)

Okay let me explain to you how per core performance works using automotives.

A CPU is like a engine.

Clock speed=Max RPM

Cores=Cylinders

Microarchitecture(IPC)=Cylinder displacement

The FX-8350 specs like this.

-8 cylinders

-8000 max RPM

-20 cubic inches per cylinder

The i5 4460 specs like this.

-4 cylinders

-6400 max RPM

-50 cubic inches per cylinder

You now may think that they perform almost identically, but there's a catch. You are limited to the number of spark plugs that the engine can use, based on how many cores each task uses.

Games only use 4 cores so you only get 4 spark plugs.

That makes the i5 run exactly like it should.

The 8350 instantly throws out half of its theoretical performance.

Now what would win in a drag race in this situation, that's the best CPU.

[evilarceus]

If you're buying the FX 8350, it's basically a dead end for AMD if you're planning to upgrade again.. You would have to switch to Intel CPU and mobo, since AMD has been shitting on their CPUs for the last 5 years.