Intel Skylake NGPTIM

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Ohh goody, the trend continues.

 

Please accept my apologies if this has already been posted but since I can't seem to find it I'll post it. It is looking like Skylake will be using Intel's Next Generation Polymer TIM which is slightly better than the shit used on early Haswell but still pretty shit on the Skylake CPU's.

 

What really pisses me off that this time round they could easily solder it since there are no capacitors right next to the die like Haswell has. Though that news is a little disappointing I am still looking forward to Skylake which should provide a pretty decent upgrade from my Sandy Bridge Core i5 but I'm going to wait until the chip matures and to whether Intel will release a Devils Canyon variant of Skylake.

 

Anyway here is the article to read at your leisure.

 

http://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/anton-shilov/intel-core-i7-6700k-skylake-de-lidded-small-die-and-ngptim-found/

 

I have a pretty decent board and chip so there is a chance that I'll be retaining the Core i5-2500K for quite a lot longer lol

[manikyath]

i'm pretty sure the reason for not soldering is cost.

[qwertywarrior]

why cant they use Flux like they always used it cant be that much of an expense 

oh well at least this means easier deliding like ivy

[Faceman]

Dang.. was really hoping for a solder job. Hopefully it is still an epic overclocker.

[That Norwegian Guy]

Intel treating enthusiasts like peasants again. While Intel's idea of 'enthusiast' is the 'more money than sense' crowd, expecting anyone who wants decent features to go X99/ X179. I might just cancel my X99 plans because now I feel like I'm being dicked around into getting X99 rather than choosing it of my own free will. And I'll be waiting for AMD's 2016 offerings while I stick with my 3570K.

[marldorthegreat]

Intel treating enthusiasts like peasants again. While Intel's idea of 'enthusiast' is the 'more money than sense' crowd, expecting anyone who wants decent features to go X99/ X179. I might just cancel my X99 plans because now I feel like I'm being dicked around into getting X99 rather than choosing it of my own free will. And I'll be waiting for AMD's 2016 offerings while I stick with my 3570K.

Yeah, me too. I was thinking about upgrading from my now VERY dated 8370, but after the zen leak I think I might wait a little bit longer.

[VSG]

i'm pretty sure the reason for not soldering is cost.

Tell that to Godavari APUs with soldered IHS.

[manikyath]

Tell that to Godavari APUs with soldered IHS.

didnt say soldering was too expensive, its just probably more expensive than paste.

[Nielips]

Flux and soldernalso come with health and safety concerns, this could be a possible reason why they have ditched using it.

[patrickjp93]

why cant they use Flux like they always used it cant be that much of an expense

oh well at least this means easier deliding like ivy

Because the application process is hot enough that 22nm and 14nm transistors melt. Many are searching for a low-temp soldering process.

[patrickjp93]

Tell that to Godavari APUs with soldered IHS.

AMD will change its tune on Zen. IBM had to abandon solder for the Power 8s at 22nm as well due to chip melting problems.

[qwertywarrior]

Because the application process is hot enough that 22nm and 14nm transistors melt. Many are searching for a low-temp soldering process.

finally there is an actual reason but wait if 22nm is the issue how come they are using it on the 6 and 8 core haswells ?

[patrickjp93]

finally there is an actual reason but wait if 22nm is the issue how come they are using it on the 6 and 8 core haswells ?

Because the density used on the mainstream parts is much higher. In other words, heat dissipation wasn't an issue for the much larger HEDT and E5/E7 chips because they can literally spread the heat more quickly. With Broadwell and Skylake at 14nm I don't know if Intel will be able to keep solder on HEDT either.

[NumLock21]

Flux and soldernalso come with health and safety concerns, this could be a possible reason why they have ditched using it.

The process is most likely automated. I doubt there is a worker armed with a giant syringe, applying it by hand.

[deviant88]

Not this shit again, i delided even my locked i5 4570 temps were shit even at 3.6 ghz with massive scythe ninja 3 cooler on it. now my max is 50-55C regular load 100%(not benchmarks)

[Nielips]

The process is most likely automated. I doubt there is a worker armed with a giant syringe, applying it by hand.

I'm just stating this from a chemical composition point, I have no idea about their production process.

[Adriel]

Well this isn't the greatest of news, I was hoping to finally get a skylake after hearing all the hype behind it. Guess I'll just get a devil's Canyon.

[beebskadoo]

If they can keep the temps under control I don't think it's going to be that bad of  a thing. But if it's anything like Ivy or Haswell, then I would just go for the enthusiast platform.