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so im building my nephew his first gaming pc, he is ascending from 360 instead of getting a xbone, I have a build planned out but would like to see if you have any good suggestions for parts to be changed.

the pc part picker is here, http://pcpartpicker.com/p/HvRN4D, the budget is $600 and I will be giving him a case, disk drive, windows, and a 120mm aio cooler for the build.

id like to hear what suggestions you guys have for different parts. thanks in advance.

EDIT: Okay here's some rules for suggestions

MUST BE UNDER 600 including shipping before mail in rebates

Must be quad core

Seagate hdd

Prefer black and red, as that is color of case.

Also I prefer amd over Intel because of past underhanded business dealings by Intel. Vote with your wallet people.

And he wants to upgrade to Zen in a few years.

Also will be used exclusively for 1080p

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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gMMfcf

 

This pentium will overclock to insane speeds, and a 4GB GPU will allow for higher resolutions

 

i also added a SSD

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10 minutes ago, Stardar1 said:

Well, with an i7, GTX 1080, Full tower and flashy lights, it can obviously only be for one thing:

Solitaire. 

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NO PENTIUMS.

BAD.

its a gaming rig and the Pentium has super powerful cores

this thing has the world record for the fastest CPU clock speed achieved ever

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Well, with an i7, GTX 1080, Full tower and flashy lights, it can obviously only be for one thing:

Solitaire. 

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so im building my nephew his first gaming pc, he is ascending from 360 instead of getting a xbone, I have a build planned out but would like to see if you have any good suggestions for parts to be changed.

 

the pc part picker is here, http://pcpartpicker.com/p/HvRN4D, the budget is $600 and I will be giving him a case, disk drive, windows, and a 120mm aio cooler for the build.

 

id like to hear what suggestions you guys have for different parts. thanks in advance.

Give me 10 and I'll have one.

Fine you want the PSU tier list? Have the PSU tier list: https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list-40-rev-103/

 

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NO PENTIUMS.

BAD.

 

The G3258 is a beast for the price, and it leaves a great upgrade path for an i5 4690K or similar later down the road.

 

Give me a few mins and I'll have something better. than the OP's list.

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its a gaming rig and the Pentium has super powerful cores

this thing has the world record for the fastest CPU clock speed achieved ever

Nope, G3258 hasn't even broken 7GHz afaik. The record is held by AMD's FX 8 core, 8.429GHz

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Nope, G3258 hasn't even broken 7GHz afaik. The record is held by AMD's FX 8 core, 8.429GHz

Oh, i wasnt aware of this.

 

but still, the pentium is better than the anthlon

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10 minutes ago, Stardar1 said:

Well, with an i7, GTX 1080, Full tower and flashy lights, it can obviously only be for one thing:

Solitaire. 

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The G3258 is a beast for the price, and it leaves a great upgrade path for an i5 4690K or similar later down the road.

 

Give me a few mins and I'll have something better. than the OP's list.

  http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gMMfcf

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10 minutes ago, Stardar1 said:

Well, with an i7, GTX 1080, Full tower and flashy lights, it can obviously only be for one thing:

Solitaire. 

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its a gaming rig and the Pentium has super powerful cores

this thing has the world record for the fastest CPU clock speed achieved ever

 

The G3258 is a beast for the price, and it leaves a great upgrade path for an i5 4690K or similar later down the road.

 

Give me a few mins and I'll have something better. than the OP's list.

 

But those 2 cores cause so many problems in modern gaming. It's almost better to go with a 4 core AMD and then upgrade to an i5 later on. You'll probably have to change motherboards anyway, with the new architectures coming out.

 

going Pentium right now is only recommended if you're upgrading in <1 year.

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its a gaming rig and the Pentium has super powerful cores

this thing has the world record for the fastest CPU clock speed achieved ever

Linus himself has said that 2 cores is just not enough for gaming anymore. So no pentiums
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If you want to play modern AAA titles, you will have trouble running them on a G3258. It may be fast enough, but four thread optimization prevents it from running well on a dual core.

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If you want to play modern AAA titles, you will have trouble running them on a G3258. It may be fast enough, but four thread optimization prevents it from running well on a dual core.

With a $600, i dont see much else as fitting the budget, is there an I3 you would recomend?

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10 minutes ago, Stardar1 said:

Well, with an i7, GTX 1080, Full tower and flashy lights, it can obviously only be for one thing:

Solitaire. 

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But those 2 cores cause so many problems in modern gaming. It's almost better to go with a 4 core AMD and then upgrade to an i5 later on. You'll probably have to change motherboards anyway, with the new architectures coming out.

 

going Pentium right now is only recommended if you're upgrading in <1 year.

Also the Pentium is good if you are only planning on playing LoL, HoN, Dota 2, CS:GO, SC2, HotS, etc.

 

 

Linus himself has said that 2 cores is just not enough for gaming anymore. So no pentiums

 

Many games are moving to having minimum requirements of 8-core CPUs (FX procs) or 4-core (Phenom) for AMD or 4-core CPUs for Intel

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  • Cooler: Cryorig H7 (With a 120 mm Thermaltake Riing RGB)
  • Motherboard: MSI B150M Bazooka Plus
  • Memory: 16 (2x8) GB DDR4 Kingston HyperX Fury (Black)
  • Video Card: Sapphire NITRO R9 390 (Stock)
  • Storage:  1 TB Western Digital Blue
  • Power Supply: 520 W Seasonic M12II Evo (with custom extensions and cable combs)
  • Casing: NZXT S340 Elite (Matte Black)
  • Fans: 2x 120 mm & 3x 140 mm Thermaltake Riing RGB
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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/c9nmpg 

There. 

And guess what...

IT HAS A PENTIUM THAT RULES!

And if you don't want the pentium, theres always the little known chip called the core i3...

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3cBgyc 

:P

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Total: $585.90

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There ya go.

 

If he wants to play games later down the road that require quad cores, he can upgrade to an i5 4690K very easily, and it will absolutely destroy any of AMD's processors in single-threaded tasks such as gaming.

Specs: CPU - Intel i7 8700K @ 5GHz | GPU - Gigabyte GTX 970 G1 Gaming | Motherboard - ASUS Strix Z370-G WIFI AC | RAM - XPG Gammix DDR4-3000MHz 32GB (2x16GB) | Main Drive - Samsung 850 Evo 500GB M.2 | Other Drives - 7TB/3 Drives | CPU Cooler - Corsair H100i Pro | Case - Fractal Design Define C Mini TG | Power Supply - EVGA G3 850W

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so im building my nephew his first gaming pc, he is ascending from 360 instead of getting a xbone, I have a build planned out but would like to see if you have any good suggestions for parts to be changed.

 

the pc part picker is here, http://pcpartpicker.com/p/HvRN4D, the budget is $600 and I will be giving him a case, disk drive, windows, and a 120mm aio cooler for the build.

 

id like to hear what suggestions you guys have for different parts. thanks in advance.

 

 

Would you like an upgrade path?

If no the 860k is a good choice but if you would like to upgrade the cpu later, go i3.. the pentium is great but suffers in anything thast will use more than 2 threads. With this you can get a used Haswell / broadwell chip in a few years (i5 or i7, locked or unlocked) and drop in for a boost.

 

Tiny bit over BUT.. it has an SSD, z97 motherboard and PSU that will allow SLI.. overall a kick-ass rig

 

 
CPU: Intel Core i3-4160 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($108.99 @ NCIX US) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-Gaming 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($95.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: A-Data XPG V2 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($47.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: OCZ ARC 100 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($49.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 960 2GB Superclocked Video Card  ($189.99 @ NCIX US) 
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($44.00 @ Newegg) 
Total: $609.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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But those 2 cores cause so many problems in modern gaming. It's almost better to go with a 4 core AMD and then upgrade to an i5 later on. You'll probably have to change motherboards anyway, with the new architectures coming out.

 

going Pentium right now is only recommended if you're upgrading in <1 year.

 

With the pentium you can get a z97 mobo, then upgrade the pentium to an i5 4690K or similar, I'd guess the i5 4690K will stick around for at least 3 years and still be a great option.

Specs: CPU - Intel i7 8700K @ 5GHz | GPU - Gigabyte GTX 970 G1 Gaming | Motherboard - ASUS Strix Z370-G WIFI AC | RAM - XPG Gammix DDR4-3000MHz 32GB (2x16GB) | Main Drive - Samsung 850 Evo 500GB M.2 | Other Drives - 7TB/3 Drives | CPU Cooler - Corsair H100i Pro | Case - Fractal Design Define C Mini TG | Power Supply - EVGA G3 850W

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CPU: Intel Core i3-4160 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($108.99 @ NCIX US) 

Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($33.99 @ Newegg) 


Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($97.98 @ OutletPC) 


Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 290 4GB TurboDuo Video Card  ($219.99 @ Newegg) 



Total: $605.86

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

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With the pentium you can get a z97 mobo, then upgrade the pentium to an i5 4690K or similar, I'd guess the i5 4690K will stick around for at least 3 years and still be a great option.

Then just save up and buy a 4690K, if you want a 4690K then buy one, no sense spending money on a Pentium if you know you're going to be spending more money on an i5 later down the road.

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Would you like an upgrade path?

If no the 860k is a good choice but if you would like to upgrade the cpu later, go i3.. the pentium is great but suffers in anything thast will use more than 2 threads. With this you can get a used Haswell / broadwell chip in a few years (i5 or i7, locked or unlocked) and drop in for a boost.

 

Tiny bit over BUT.. it has an SSD, z97 motherboard and PSU that will allow SLI.. overall a kick-ass rig

 

 
CPU: Intel Core i3-4160 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($108.99 @ NCIX US) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-Gaming 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($95.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: A-Data XPG V2 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($47.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: OCZ ARC 100 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($49.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 960 2GB Superclocked Video Card  ($189.99 @ NCIX US) 
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($44.00 @ Newegg) 
Total: $609.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-10 13:06 EDT-0400

 

This, but a 4GB 270x

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10 minutes ago, Stardar1 said:

Well, with an i7, GTX 1080, Full tower and flashy lights, it can obviously only be for one thing:

Solitaire. 

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Then just save up and buy a 4690K, if you want a 4690K then buy one, no sense spending money on a Pentium if you know you're going to be spending more money on an i5 later down the road.

 

The exact same argument can be made towards the AMD processor, if they're going to have to upgrade it anyways due to sub-par performance, why not just save up more and get a better processor in the first place.

Specs: CPU - Intel i7 8700K @ 5GHz | GPU - Gigabyte GTX 970 G1 Gaming | Motherboard - ASUS Strix Z370-G WIFI AC | RAM - XPG Gammix DDR4-3000MHz 32GB (2x16GB) | Main Drive - Samsung 850 Evo 500GB M.2 | Other Drives - 7TB/3 Drives | CPU Cooler - Corsair H100i Pro | Case - Fractal Design Define C Mini TG | Power Supply - EVGA G3 850W

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This, but a 4GB 270x

All options he can consider and change.. he could also go h81 and 290.. swings and roundabouts.. I'm not currently a fan of what AMD are doing so I generally suggest Nvidia but to each their own.

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