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The pump doesn't have to run for water to pass through it, since most water pumps centrifugal. Passing water through it shouldn't be any harder or more restrictive than a CPU waterblock. I'm assuming the AIO waterblock are large enough to cover the complete GPU die including the width of the imposer. Just my assumptions, I could be wrong  

 

I'm sure it covers the whole GPU die and HBM imposer as well as the VRMs. If there's no fan on the card, then they have to. ;) 

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All that bragging about HBM and shit and it gets us a lousy 92 points? How large is the margin of error for 3dmark? I mean GG for matching the 980Ti but it better OC and actualy benefit from it or there won't be any point in getting it if it costs the same or more than the 980 Ti.

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All that bragging about HBM and shit and it gets us a lousy 92 points? How large is the margin of error for 3dmark? I mean GG for matching the 980Ti but it better OC and actualy benefit from it or there won't be any point in getting it if it costs the same or more than the 980 Ti.

 

It has a full waterblock, pump and rad included and costs only $50 more than the EVGA 980Ti hydro copper which come with waterblock only. ;)

 

People conveniently keep forgetting this.

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It has a full waterblock, pump and rad included and costs only $50 more than the EVGA 980Ti hydro copper which come with waterblock only. ;)

 

People conveniently keep forgetting this.

I dont recall the 980 ti in the chart being a hydrocopper, not to mention the fact that the AIO cooled 980 Ti from EVGA is $50 less than the hydrocopper and also not to mention that the 980 Ti doesn't need to be watercooled to reach high OC's.

 

so.....I'm trying to figure out your point.

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I dont recall the 980 ti in the chart being a hydrocopper, not to mention the fact that the AIO cooled 980 Ti from EVGA is $50 less than the hydrocopper and also not to mention that the 980 Ti doesn't need to be watercooled to reach high OC's.

 

so.....I'm trying to figure out your point.

 

It's easy to say "look the fury is so much more money than the 980Ti" referring to the base model at $649. But that's not a proper comparison, IMO. If you really want to compare apples to apples, we have to compare the cost of the factory water cooled 980Ti's to the water cooled Fury. In that respect, the prices are not that far out of line. You're getting a full waterblock with integrated pump and a thick 120mm rad included. You're getting a better, more efficient cooling solution compared to the 980Ti hybrid AIO version (which only water cools the GPU die) and you're getting a fully functioning water cooled solution compared to the 980Ti hydro copper (which comes with the waterblock only). 

 

We don't yet know how well Fury overclocks, so we can't really say anything about that yet. 

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It's easy to say "look the fury is so much more money than the 980Ti" referring to the base model at $649. But that's not a proper comparison, IMO. If you really want to compare apples to apples, we have to compare the cost of the factory water cooled 980Ti's to the water cooled Fury. In that respect, the prices are not that far out of line. You're getting a full waterblock with integrated pump and a thick 120mm rad included. You're getting a better, more efficient cooling solution compared to the 980Ti hybrid AIO version (which only water cools the GPU die) and you're getting a fully functioning water cooled solution compared to the 980Ti hydro copper (which comes with the waterblock only). 

 

We don't yet know how well Fury overclocks, so we can't really say anything about that yet. 

I can see how you can make the assumption that it's a full coverage block but can you actually show me proof that it is in fact full coverage? that being said the "extra value addons" are only on the fury because it needs it. Reference 980 Ti's overclock very well on the stock cooler, that's not even considering the aftermarket air cooled ones.

 

the arguement for the AIO is pretty weak imo.

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I can see how you can make the assumption that it's a full coverage block but can you actually show me proof that it is in fact full coverage? that being said the "extra value addons" are only on the fury because it needs it. Reference 980 Ti's overclock very well on the stock cooler, that's not even considering the aftermarket air cooled ones.

 

the arguement for the AIO is pretty weak imo.

 

There is no fan on the card itself. The VRMs on a 300w TDP GPU cannot be passively cooled. I'm 100% sure it has a full waterblock that cools the GPU die (including HBM interposer) and the VRMs. I don't need to see the block itself, I just need logic. ;)

 

There is apparently going to be a 3-fan reference cooler available as well for other variants/versions of Fury, which will come in at a lower cost and compete with the air-cooled 980Ti's. So no, it doesn't have the water-cooling because it "needs it". It has it because it's targeted to be a premium model, just like the water-cooled 980Ti variants.

 

I'm not making arguments, I'm just saying we need to compare apples to apples. 

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There is no fan on the card itself. The VRMs on a 300w TDP GPU cannot be passively cooled. I'm 100% sure it has a full waterblock that cools the GPU die (including HBM interposer) and the VRMs. I don't need to see the block itself, I just need logic. ;)

 

There is apparently going to be a 3-fan reference cooler available as well for other variants/versions of Fury, which will come in at a lower cost and compete with the air-cooled 980Ti's. So no, it doesn't have the water-cooling because it "needs it". It has it because it's targeted to be a premium model, just like the water-cooled 980Ti variants.

 

I'm not making arguments, I'm just saying we need to compare apples to apples. 

It's not a bad assumption for the block and I agree but I still want to see PCB shots before I say im 100% about anything. That being said we don't even know if the air cooled ones are even capable of being overclocked. I also don't think the whole apples to apples thing works when comparing a card that has a rad and pump to one that doens't if anything is an apples to apples comparision it would be the 980 Ti hybrid against the fury x as they are bothr eady to use out of the box and have the same inconvienience factor associated with the rad. Whereas the hyrocopper needs additional hardware to even be powered on much less actually used.

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I'm hoping the water block are not that expensive, given the size of the card. Cooling this card is a water coolers wet dream. Small form factor and no DDR5 to cool should give nice temps and good over clocking. I'm hoping I can mod the stock cooler and just add it to my water loop. That might not be a good idea for warranty purposes, a modder can only dream 

 

 

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It's not a bad assumption for the block and I agree but I still want to see PCB shots before I say im 100% about anything. That being said we don't even know if the air cooled ones are even capable of being overclocked. I also don't think the whole apples to apples thing works when comparing a card that has a rad and pump to one that doens't if anything is an apples to apples comparision it would be the 980 Ti hybrid against the fury x as they are bothr eady to use out of the box and have the same inconvienience factor associated with the rad. Whereas the hyrocopper needs additional hardware to even be powered on much less actually used.

 

The 290/X are capable of being overclocked on air (my 290 OC's pretty darn high for a non-OC non-binned version) and they have only a 10w lower TDP. So in that regard, I would say it's safe to assume Fiji will be capable of overclocking on air, but the questions is; by how much? ;)  We'll soon find out. 3 more days... :)

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About where I expected.

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I honestly would get the Titan X still because I don't really like the idea of all that heat and power consumption. But cool for AMD and all. :)

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i wonder how much heat it will output.... *shots fired* i don't like the idea of 300W TDP which is a complete turn off for me i'm trying to bring my own TDP down not up, but that HBM is a good thing for AMD until nvidia releases their own cards with HBM then the playing field with be level again

   

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I honestly would get the Titan X still because I don't really like the idea of all that heat and power consumption. But cool for AMD and all. :)

But we don't even know the TDP of the Fury X or whatever, and the Titan X gets mega hot.

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I honestly would get the Titan X still because I don't really like the idea of all that heat and power consumption.

Then do not get a 980ti or a Titan-X. Get a 980.
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But we don't even know the TDP of the Fury X or whatever, and the Titan X gets mega hot.

 

Apparently it is 300w. If you expect lower, or lower than the new rebrands, it isn't gonna happen.

 

Then do not get a 980ti or a Titan-X. Get a 980.

 

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Heyyo,

The Fury X is indeed going to be an awesome card... but really? $1000.00!? Fuck it better not be... especially if it's true about only having 4GB HBM... for $1000.00? The NVIDIA Titan X would be a better deal since it offers 12GB of GDDR5. Less chance of a VRAM bottleneck.

I dunno how accurate this article is... but it's good news if the Fury X does have that much graphics horsepower. I just wish it had more VRAM if it's going to be anywhere near the price of the NVIDIA GTX 980 ti or the Titan X.....

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Not that surprising to me that it beat the 980ti

how is it disappointing a card that is not OC is getting beat by a card that is?

 

 

because its already watercooled ... not overclock potential... my 780 went from 960mhz to 1350 when i watercooled ... what are you going to overclock a already watercooled card ..

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because its already watercooled ... not overclock potential... my 780 went from 960mhz to 1350 when i watercooled ... what are you going to overclock a already watercooled card ..

well, rumours state that there are both aircooled and watercooled models both running on the same stock clocks.
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well, rumours state that there are both aircooled and watercooled models both running on the same stock clocks.

that can still mean that the air cooled is runing 95C xD and water is 70C xD we don't know yet

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because its already watercooled ... not overclock potential... my 780 went from 960mhz to 1350 when i watercooled ... what are you going to overclock a already watercooled card ..

beccause the 295x2 totally can't be overclocked.......

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that can still mean that the air cooled is runing 95C xD and water is 70C xD we don't know yet

Bingo - we don't know yet. We have no idea yet about overclock potential. And 95 degrees is not gonna happen again this time because they are not using the stock cooler from Hawaii launch. They learned their lesson from the deserved bad press.
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Bingo - we don't know yet. We have no idea yet about overclock potential. And 95 degrees is not gonna happen again this time because they are not using the stock cooler from Hawaii launch. They learned their lesson from the deserved bad press.

 

lets hope so :) i like Nvidia but i don't want AMD to die :( 

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