Is developing artificial intelligence inhumane?

[T.Vengeance]

So I've been thinking about this question, and maybe some of our community's insight might help. I can't reconcile the idea of AI helping us to solve world problems with the idea of being scared of new technology. Like the day when the car became mass produced, I'm pretty sure someone would've thought that this is the end of humanity. People would drive everywhere. We would all be obese, fat, lazy,etc. I know Wall-E had that same idea. But here we are now. Sure we might have obesity problems, but it is far from the aforementioned dystopia.

 

Ever since humans invented the first technology, we have used it to in a way accelerate evolution, not by natural selection, but by our own minds. Instead of evolving a thick exoskeleton to crack nuts, we used rocks. You guys get the point. So will there be a point where our technology supersedes our biology (that being our brains if you consider that the epoch of our biology) such that they will overtake us a rule us?

 

A true AI would not obey The Three Laws of Robotics set out by Asimov, because not even we follow those laws. How do we expect our own creation to not kill us or harm us if we do the same to other people? 

 

But at the same time, a true AI would help us in unfathomable ways. An AI with the capabilities to do accurate calculations while adapting to environments would allow us to make judgement void of emotions. It would help us make rational decisions. 

[AlwaysFSX]

Inhumane, no. Suicidal, most likely.

[NeatSquidYT]

Maybe there will be a point where the human brain is inferior to technology, but wasn't there a story where a supercomputer took ages to do 1 second of brain power or something similar?

[Aytex]

pc master race becomes a real thing

[T.Vengeance]

Inhumane, no. Suicidal, most likely.

If you think about it though, while it's pretty subjective (cultural dependent), a lot of the stuff we consider inhumane are things that cause suffering in the end like torture for example. So in essence developing an AI such that in the future we may become slaves to it could be seen as inhumane. But I get what you mean though.

 

Maybe there will be a point where the human brain is inferior to technology, but wasn't there a story where a supercomputer took ages to do 1 second of brain power or something similar?

I was thinking more along the lines of an AI that's of the same competency level as us. That would me that due to the large computational power such an AI would possess, it would take no time for it to be smarter than us.

[AlwaysFSX]

If you think about it though, while it's pretty subjective (cultural dependent), a lot of the stuff we consider inhumane are things that cause suffering in the end like torture for example. So in essence developing an AI such that in the future we may become slaves to it could be seen as inhumane. But I get what you mean though.

I mean, as far as coding for AI goes it's a lot of if/else questions and there could be one loop saying "if X causes harm to human then do not do." But there's always the chance for error in coding that could cause a lot of looping problems, ie: mass murder.

[Nikolithebear]

Im sure theres going to be admin fail safes and over-rides in it.  Im definitively sure.  

[BoredErica]

So I've been thinking about this question, and maybe some of our community's insight might help. I can't reconcile the idea of AI helping us to solve world problems with the idea of being scared of new technology. Like the day when the car became mass produced, I'm pretty sure someone would've thought that this is the end of humanity. People would drive everywhere. We would all be obese, fat, lazy,etc. I know Wall-E had that same idea. But here we are now. Sure we might have obesity problems, but it is far from the aforementioned dystopia.

 

Ever since humans invented the first technology, we have used it to in a way accelerate evolution, not by natural selection, but by our own minds. Instead of evolving a thick exoskeleton to crack nuts, we used rocks. You guys get the point. So will there be a point where our technology supersedes our biology (that being our brains if you consider that the epoch of our biology) such that they will overtake us a rule us?

 

A true AI would not obey The Three Laws of Robotics set out by Asimov, because not even we follow those laws. How do we expect our own creation to not kill us or harm us if we do the same to other people? 

 

But at the same time, a true AI would help us in unfathomable ways. An AI with the capabilities to do accurate calculations while adapting to environments would allow us to make judgement void of emotions. It would help us make rational decisions. 

Interesting post.

Perhaps... It's inhumane when the AI is sentient... But when it's sentient, it won't listen and obey us in the first place.

[T.Vengeance]

I mean, as far as coding for AI goes it's a lot of if/else questions and there could be one loop saying "if X causes harm to human then do not do." But there's always the chance for error in coding that could cause a lot of looping problems, ie: mass murder.

That's true. Although it always does bring me back to the I Robot movie where: 

VIKI decides to curfew all humans to prevent suffering. I mean it's still good for humanity. It saves lives.

Anyhow, I just thought of this post mainly because I'm also interested in developing it, but I'm afraid of being the last "Oppenheimer" of humanity. Creating something like Skynet. If you know what I mean.

[T.Vengeance]

Interesting post.

Perhaps... It's inhumane when the AI is sentient... But when it's sentient, it won't listen and obey us in the first place.

Mhm that's exactly my point. Why would a true AI obey us. They have no reason to. We kill each other and the only people we don't are friends and family, and even then sometimes backstabbing happens.

[AlwaysFSX]

That's true. Although it always does bring me back to the I Robot movie where: 

VIKI decides to curfew all humans to prevent suffering. I mean it's still good for humanity. It saves lives.

Anyhow, I just thought of this post mainly because I'm also interested in developing it, but I'm afraid of being the last "Oppenheimer" of humanity. Creating something like Skynet. If you know what I mean.

Again, that's why you'd have to create rules. And ask a lawyer for help because you need to be very clear in definition of what the AI can't do.

[d1screet]

The whole idea behind an AI just simply learning all the world has through the Internet and things sure sounds foreboding, but uh, how much memory would this AI need to remember it all?

[BoredErica]

Mhm that's exactly my point. Why would a true AI obey us. They have no reason to. We kill each other and the only people we don't are friends and family, and even then sometimes backstabbing happens.

How long do you guess it would be until such an AI would exist? Time magazine predicted the singularity to be at 2031. Where they got that number I still have no idea.

 

CGP Grey made a nice video here, about machines replacing jobs and why the displacement of jobs might be different this time than anything from history. I think you'll enjoy it.

[Volbet]

If we were to create an AI that would pass a Turing test with flying colours, then that AI would probably be susceptible to the same problems that the human race faces.

Our emotions gets in the way of logic and reason, and logic and reason gets in the way of quick decision making.

With our current computer technology, we are only able to create AIs that work on a logical level. If they wanted to kill us, they would take their sweet time actually deciding to do it, and how to do it.

[lightningterror]

We don't always think logically. Don't forget that many times we make decisions based on emotions in which case if you think about it logically makes no sense.

This is where AI are incapable of thinking.

[danfoofoo]

Maybe I'm coming from a different point of view here, but all the AI algorithms that people in my field have developed are to help make decisions. There's no humanity in them. They literally just do math equations to group things together and/or calculate probability.

[Ertman]

The problem is the definition of AI.

AI as it stands and is being developed now, it's just a complex computer program, a tool, nothing more.

If we are talking about full blown artificial intelligence, that is a sentient creation, capable of of creativity, learning, and posses what we determine as free will. Best case scenario, would be that it ignores us, and does its own thing, worst case exterminates the human race. There is also a possibility of its own self termination. Another argument would be whether it is inhumane to subjugate this intelligence though to do our bidding.

[Guest]

Inhumane would not be the correct word. Applications might be inhumane. But developing AI's? I can't really think of a way.

[EpicAdom]

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This right here is so great

[Mattrixx]

pc master race becomes a real thing

Better hope you're a white, blonde, blue eyed, non Jewish, Aryan watercooled, cable sleeved, 4k capable, non-human-sympathetic, PC when that happens.

[Aytex]

Better hope you're a white, blonde, blue eyed, non Jewish, Aryan watercooled, cable sleeved, 4k capable, non-human-sympathetic, PC when that happens.

lol

[SImoHayha]

Lets not make Ultron guys.....

[-iSynthesis]

So I've been thinking about this question, and maybe some of our community's insight might help. I can't reconcile the idea of AI helping us to solve world problems with the idea of being scared of new technology. Like the day when the car became mass produced, I'm pretty sure someone would've thought that this is the end of humanity. People would drive everywhere. We would all be obese, fat, lazy,etc. I know Wall-E had that same idea. But here we are now. Sure we might have obesity problems, but it is far from the aforementioned dystopia.

 

Ever since humans invented the first technology, we have used it to in a way accelerate evolution, not by natural selection, but by our own minds. Instead of evolving a thick exoskeleton to crack nuts, we used rocks. You guys get the point. So will there be a point where our technology supersedes our biology (that being our brains if you consider that the epoch of our biology) such that they will overtake us a rule us?

 

A true AI would not obey The Three Laws of Robotics set out by Asimov, because not even we follow those laws. How do we expect our own creation to not kill us or harm us if we do the same to other people? 

 

But at the same time, a true AI would help us in unfathomable ways. An AI with the capabilities to do accurate calculations while adapting to environments would allow us to make judgement void of emotions. It would help us make rational decisions. 

Stupid af, though probably not inhumane.

[christianled59]

It'll probably be like the AI from interstellar.

[minimoose]

Im sure theres going to be admin fail safes and over-rides in it. Im definitively sure.

The whole point of AI is that it could turn it off