AMD needs power efficient architecture!

[32gigs]

I think we can all agree AMD is basically crap(compared to the competition), nothing they make is not beaten by someone else! There products are weaker then the competition, run hotter and draw a huge amount of power. Rumors say the r9 390x is gonna be watercooled! this is what they have to do to add in more stream processors and higher base clocks; if they keep this up they'll have to use liquid nitrogen to cool the r9 490x. the gtx titan x doesnt need watercooling and it has 3000+ cuda cores BECAUSE OF THE POWER EFFICIENT MAXWELL. So why does this card need it. power effecient architecture will allow for higher base clocks and more processors potentially opening the flood gates for more innovation and improvement so amd could soon be on par with intel and nvidia so we dont need to 1000 for a damn 8 core and 1000 for a slightly better gtx 980 (titan x)  (sorry for the grammar and format)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks for the insight though everbody! I didn't mean to troll I just wanted to have a discussion w/ ppl who actually understand tech nobody does where I come from.

[Interfectorem]

*Sigh*

[Atmos]

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Inciting flame wars is NOT a good way to start off your career here. AMD has competitive gear and does have, and has had some power efficient hardware today and in the past. Fanboys are the scum of the world.

 

I've never seen any quality reports on the 390X being stock water cooled, and tonga is already fairly power efficient, far better than hawaii. So that part is just fanboy shit you see on the internet. AMD for almost it's entire life has traded blows with nvidia for graphics horsepower, the 295x2 still being the fastest single-card solution in the world for gaming in 95% of games. The cpu side of things amd could improve, yes. But amd also is lightyears ahead of intel in terms of integrated graphics, being magnitudes better. Both intel and nvidia can learn a lot of amd, as amd can learn a lot from them.

[thekeemo]

titan-x thermal throttles..

[TheKDub]

I think we can all agree AMD is basically crap, nothing they make is not beaten by someone else! There products are weaker then the competition, run hotter and draw a huge amount of power. Rumors say the r9 390x is gonna be watercooled! this is what they have to do to add in more stream processors and higher base clocks; if they keep this up they'll have to use liquid nitrogen to cool the r9 490x. the gtx titan x doesnt need watercooling and it has 3000+ cuda cores BECAUSE OF THE POWER EFFICIENT MAXWELL. So why does this card need it. power effecient architecture will allow for higher base clocks and more processors potentially opening the flood gates for more innovation and improvement so amd could soon be on par with intel and nvidia so we dont need to 1000 for a damn 8 core and 1000 for a slightly better gtx 980 (titan x)  (sorry for the grammar and format)

 

The titan X could use watercooling or at least a better cooler as from what I've heard it has some major thermal throttling issues.

[VioDuskar]

fan boy much?

[TheSLSAMG]

The titan X could use watercooling or at least a better cooler as from what I've heard it has some major thermal throttling issues.

I'm not so sure, I'm seeing plenty of people overclock them to 1300MHz+ on the stock cooler.

 

Though to OP saying that Big Maxwell is power efficient, it isn't that power efficient. It still has a 250W TDP, which is no less than 290X or the original TITAN.

[The Crazed Child]

le cokeman has returned

[gilm0re3]

I love Nvidia just as much as the next guy, but please, try not to fanboy over them too much.

[32gigs]

hmmmm. at least watercooling is not required

[32gigs]

i just want amd to innovate and not be the underdog for ONCE

[Vek1313]

What's even the point of this thread? Oh and for the price to performance AMD cards do outperform Nvidia cards.

[TheSLSAMG]

hmmmm. at least watercooling is not required

It won't be for the 390X either if leaks are anything to go by.

 

WCE means WaterCooled Edition. If it's an edition, it isn't the only model. Editions tend to be higher end versions of the original model with something special to offer, like the Z97 Sabertooth Mark S which is a special edition board. There will be an aircooled R9 390X...

[Vek1313]

i just want amd to innovate and not be the underdog for ONCE

Just think though they are the only company putting out CPUs and GPUs so they do have multiple directions to go in.

[32gigs]

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Inciting flame wars is NOT a good way to start off your career here. AMD has competitive gear and does have, and has had some power efficient hardware today and in the past. Fanboys are the scum of the world.

Im not doing that i just want improvement for amd, but thanks for being such a good sport u guys arent like the youtube assholes

[Unlikelyjoker]

I think im just gonna leave the forum for awhile.

If you have me on Skype/Steam contact me when the fanboys die down

[cthomas1489]

I think we can all agree AMD is basically crap, nothing they make is not beaten by someone else! There products are weaker then the competition, run hotter and draw a huge amount of power. Rumors say the r9 390x is gonna be watercooled! this is what they have to do to add in more stream processors and higher base clocks; if they keep this up they'll have to use liquid nitrogen to cool the r9 490x. the gtx titan x doesnt need watercooling and it has 3000+ cuda cores BECAUSE OF THE POWER EFFICIENT MAXWELL. So why does this card need it. power effecient architecture will allow for higher base clocks and more processors potentially opening the flood gates for more innovation and improvement so amd could soon be on par with intel and nvidia so we dont need to 1000 for a damn 8 core and 1000 for a slightly better gtx 980 (titan x)  (sorry for the grammar and format)

 

Well I'm gonna first point out that I don't think you once mentioned a CPU... but posted in the CPU section so that's cool I guess. They definitely do have power efficient mobile chips though and their timeline outlines even more things. It's just taking time for them. They're a fraction of the size of Intel. I'll always have faith in them and do enjoy their products. Eventually it'll get there I'm sure. Businesses thrive from competition.

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AMD has much better prices. I love Nvidia for the features but if I didnt need some of their features I'd go with AMD.

I have an AMD processor and its fine, works good for the price. Both have their pros and cons, who cares which is better.

[TheSLSAMG]

What's even the point of this thread? Oh and for the price to performance AMD cards do outperform Nvidia cards.

That's debatable. R9 290X and GTX 970 provide the same level of performance for the same money. As do the R9 280 and GTX 960. Used doesn't count, anyone can go buy used and get a better deal on either side. NVIDIA tend to make better top-end cards, AMD tend to make better price/performance solutions, but this generation is fairly matched (though NVIDIA is leaving huge gaps.)

[tmlhalo]

Power efficiency doesn't put frames on the screen. I couldn't give a damn about power consumption. If I wanted something to play games at less than 200w I'd get a laptop. Though the joke here is comparing  last gen AMD to current gen Nvidia. Sadly the joke isn't very fun. I don't see you being around on the forums long.

[Lolzious]

Yeeaaaaaaaaaaaanoooooooo

 

Intel, Nvidia, and AMD are all great companies, and they will all overtake and be overtaken, just how it goes

Also, I can run Unigine Valley at only 60c on my 280x, therefore, your argument is "semi" invalid.

[32gigs]

fan boy much?

dude a quad core i5 defeats a 8 core amd processor they really do need to step up there game especially in the single threaded performance department 

[Atmos]

Im not doing that i just want improvement for amd, but thanks for being such a good sport u guys arent like the youtube assholes

 

Then here's a few tips man. If you dont want to be permanently hated on the forums, don't fanboy and talk from your ass when trying to make a point. for 90% of the stuff you said is just hear-say bullshit you find on youtube, like reviewers comparing the 8350 to a 5960X and calling it a fair comparison, or gpuboss rating any nvidia card higher in their index than any amd card, doing nothing but pushing a biased and anti-competitive agenda. Do yourself a favor, look at some reliable benchmarks from like, cpubenchmarks.net or gpubenchmarks.net, or tomshardware or even LTT benchmarks. Gather information for yourself from reliable and nonbiased sources. Then come back and try to talk about amd not being relevant today. 

[VioDuskar]

Power efficiency doesn't put frames on the screen. I couldn't give a damn about power consumption. If I wanted something to play games at less than 200w I'd get a laptop. Though the joke here is comparing  last gen AMD to current gen Nvidia. Sadly the joke isn't very fun. I don't see you being around on the forums long.

he's a bit too polarized IMO

[TheSLSAMG]

Power efficiency doesn't put frames on the screen.

While true, power efficiency has a huge contribution to the thermal performance of a machine. Consider that R9 290Xes tend to run at higher temps than GTX 970s and perform only as well, and run at higher temps than a GTX 980 while performing worse (if we're comparing the most similar cooling solutions, say Tri-X to Windforce.)