PewDiePie attacks Nintendo for YouTube cash share plan

[ShadowCaptain]

Nintendo is just using the available tools.

 

Which is fine, I have no issue with them doing it as far as their rights go

 

But I dont have to like it as a moral decision

[Zerreth]

Jokes aside, this is just wrong. Its free advertising, Nintendo needs to restructure and fire all of their higher ups for more sensible people. I don't want Nintendo's next game being Mario: The Pizza maker.

 

Well at what point do you say it's fair use /  advertising VS exploitation ? If one were to hold a "let's watch" of a movie or television series then in your book it would all be fine and just "Free Advertising". For a lot of people, the way they experience that content doesn't matter. (playing it themselves or watching others play it through)

This becomes a problem when sales of a game can actually be hurt because of all those people just sitting though the entire game via youtube "let's plays" and NOT buying the game.

You forget the hundreds and thousands of people who actually have to crunch till 3 in the morning to deliver that game/experience. If they are not paid, then they have no job, and the game won't be made in the first place. To champion one person who is making MILLIONS of the back of others is despicable.

 

You could argue for the content Pewdiepie himself adds to his videos, but when put into perspective his addition is just a very very VERY small fraction of the actual work that makes up all the content in that video. Through that lens, the 50/50 Sharing program is more than fair. Ask yourself, how much manhours would it cost to actually create that content ?

Just because Nintendo is enforcing basic licencing practice on youtube only now rather than 5-10 years ago doesn't make it wrong. This has always been true for music and movies / tv shows, why shouldn't it be so for games ?

 

To quote Ygritte (Game of Thrones): "They're not your lands! We've been here the whole time! You lot came along and just put up a big Wall and said it was yours!"

[revl8er]

Well at what point do you say it's fair use /  advertising VS exploitation ? If one were to hold a "let's watch" of a movie or television series then in your book it would all be fine and just "Free Advertising". For a lot of people, the way they experience that content doesn't matter. (playing it themselves or watching others play it through)

This becomes a problem when sales of a game can actually be hurt because of all those people just sitting though the entire game via youtube "let's plays" and NOT buying the game.

You forget the hundreds and thousands of people who actually have to crunch till 3 in the morning to deliver that game/experience. If they are not paid, then they have no job, and the game won't be made in the first place. To champion one person who is making MILLIONS of the back of others is despicable.

 

You could argue for the content Pewdiepie himself adds to his videos, but when put into perspective his addition is just a very very VERY small fraction of the actual work that makes up all the content in that video. Through that lens, the 50/50 Sharing program is more than fair. Ask yourself, how much manhours would it cost to actually create that content ?

Just because Nintendo is enforcing basic licencing practice on youtube only now rather than 5-10 years ago doesn't make it wrong. This has always been true for music and movies / tv shows, why shouldn't it be so for games ?

 

To quote Ygritte (Game of Thrones): "They're not your lands! We've been here the whole time! You lot came along and just put up a big Wall and said it was yours!"

 

I'm surprised it took this long for someone to say this.  Everyone here is so Anti-Nintendo just because they are protecting their content.  You can argue, as everyone here pretty much did, that Nintendo is getting free advertisement of the game, but that's just BS there.  Since most let's play videos go from start of the game to end of the game you are viewing the whole story of the game.  While you aren't actually playing the game yourself you are losing the sensation of being able to experience it for yourself.  I am probably the minority here, but if I were to watch a video such as this on a game I wouldn't buy it.  What would be the point as I've seen the whole story already.  If this is right for youtubers to do then should they also be able to play movies while given their opinions on certain parts?  It's pretty much the same thing IMO.  If the videos were just short reviews then sure I could understand that, but not a full playthrough of the games.  On the other hand, if the game has been out for over 15 years then sure I have no problem as you aren't really going to be able to find the game new anyways except online.  

[lttiscancer]

"Teen" on porn websites like xHamster are 18+. I think you're too quick with accusing him of a terrible crime here.

Besides, it's "big tits teen". That's hardly what I'd call "porn that resembles his lust for kids".

 

Oh come on... That's just ad hominem. I don't even like PewDiePie but he makes a good point. Nintendo are hurting themselves with this stupid policy.

They are missing out on a lot of publicity, and most people who watch PewDiePie watches his videos because of him, not because of the game he plays.

 

 

 

That's me, not Albatross. Although, I don't think creepy fits me that well so maybe you're talking about someone else.

 

 

Oh my God it actually exists!

 

I don't really hate him. I hate his videos because they make me cringe and I just can't stand them. I am kind of disappointed because he seems like a smart guy and he is very likable in the (rare) cases when he is just his normal, non exaggerated self. It bothers me that he is catering to the absolute lowest common denominator.

I may personally think you're sorta weird for loli porn, I totally respect your ability to actually use your brain and think intellectually. I don't like pewdiepie being as animated as he is now, and i no longer watch the videos but actually searching for ways to claim someone is a pedo and shit is fucked up.

[Solkia]

Well at what point do you say it's fair use /  advertising VS exploitation ? If one were to hold a "let's watch" of a movie or television series then in your book it would all be fine and just "Free Advertising". For a lot of people, the way they experience that content doesn't matter. (playing it themselves or watching others play it through)

 

You can't play a book or movie.

 

I've tried out several games I've seen in let's plays. If someone watches an LP and doesn't buy the game, they weren't going to buy the game regardless. I know I sure as hell have no interest in MGS4.

[patrickjp93]

I don't get it why companies stand against free marketing.

 

Pew die pie is a bigger force in the industry than some game publications whether we want to admit it or not.

How the bloody Hell did that happen anyway? He has nothing of importance or authority to say nor the integrity to back it up.

[Unhelpful]

I don't know what any of those sites are so I can't say whether or not both or just xhamster frequently uploads child porn. However it says "teen" in the address. Either he went searching for it, failed (which is still wrong) or he went searching for it and found it, and then watched it. Underage teenagers still fall under child pornography, which he is clearly guilty of.

tbh I can't stand the guy... But isn't that a bit unfair? I would imagine teen can/usually does mean 18/19.

 

If you were looking for creepy illegal shit I would imagine you look up "underage"

[Trik'Stari]

1. He is right, (as much as it pains me to say) his viewers are watching for him, not for just the game.

2. Since when does Xhamster upload child porn? I've been there more than a few times over the years and never seen anything even close....then again I don't go looking for that kind of thing.

[Zerreth]

You can't play a book or movie.

Google would disagree.

On a serious note, @ Oculus connect, Epic Games had a slide in their presentation that boils it down to the simple concept of the medium and what each iteration adds to the mix.

Book - > Audio -> Video -> Game -> VR. Each step adds something to the mix what makes up the experience as a whole. While it is true that you don't get the interactive part that a game brings to the table vs a movie, but it does satisfy all of the other parts. That is exactly why I worded it like:

 

For a lot of people, the way they experience that content doesn't matter. (playing it themselves or watching others play it through)

In other words: They don't care about the interactive part.

 

 

If someone watches an LP and doesn't buy the game, they weren't going to buy the game regardless.

 

This Issue is not something directed at YOU the consumer, but rather at the content creator (In this case Pewdiepie) who is using unlicensed content from another content creator (Nintendo) to make money. For you actually nothing changes. The original content creator is entitled to its share.