Posted January 26, 2015 hi everyone so i have noticed something weird with my current setup ( GTX970 driving 1x 1080p screen and 1x 1280x1024 screen) basically the second screen tanks my FPS when gaming on my 1080p screen , i will use BF4 as an example With both screens , bf4 maxed out : struggle top stay above 60fps single 1080p screen , bf4 maxed out : above 80fps all the time it also does this in other games such as The Crew and Call of duty AW and Far Cry3/4 so i am looking for a cheap as possible Nvidia GPU to drive my second screen , any suggestions ? NOTE : atm the card will need to drive 1024p @60hz , but i will upgrade my main monitor to 1440p in the near future so the GPU will have to drive 1080p @60hz soon , no gaming on second screen , it is just used for OBS , and twitch chat when i stream so any one have any suggestions ? Oh also i am in the UK and website dosent really matter thanks in advance My Pc Specs CPU : AMD FX-8350 @stock w/Noctua NH D-14 Mobo: Asus M5A99FX Ram : 16gb Corsair XMS3 @1600mhz GPU : Gigabyte GTX970 Windforce OC 4GB @1429mhz SSD: Sandisk X110 256gb Case: Be Quiet Silent Base 800 Windowed PSU: EVGA 850w g2 Peripherals : Corsair K70 w/Red Switches , Logitech G502 , Samsung SyncMaster S22B300 (1920x1080) , Ttesports Shock one headset , Phone : HTC one A9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 26, 2015 GT 220? GT 610-740? Main Rig: CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X | RAM: 32GB (2x16GB) KLEVV CRAS XR RGB DDR4-3600 | Motherboard: Gigabyte B550I AORUS PRO AX | Storage: 512GB SKHynix PC401, 1TB Samsung 970 EVO Plus, 2x Micron 1100 256GB SATA SSDs | GPU: EVGA RTX 3080 FTW3 Ultra 10GB | Cooling: ThermalTake Floe 280mm w/ be quiet! Pure Wings 3 | Case: Sliger SM580 (Black) | PSU: Lian Li SP 850W Server: CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3100 | RAM: 32GB (2x16GB) Crucial DDR4 Pro | Motherboard: ASUS PRIME B550-PLUS AC-HES | Storage: 128GB Samsung PM961, 4TB Seagate IronWolf | GPU: AMD FirePro WX 3100 | Cooling: EK-AIO Elite 360 D-RGB | Case: Corsair 5000D Airflow (White) | PSU: Seasonic Focus GM-850 Miscellaneous: Dell Optiplex 7060 Micro (i5-8500T/16GB/512GB), Lenovo ThinkCentre M715q Tiny (R5 2400GE/16GB/256GB), Dell Optiplex 7040 SFF (i5-6400/8GB/128GB) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 26, 2015 hi everyone so i have noticed something weird with my current setup ( GTX970 driving 1x 1080p screen and 1x 1280x1024 screen) basically the second screen tanks my FPS when gaming on my 1080p screen , i will use BF4 as an example With both screens , bf4 maxed out : struggle top stay above 60fps single 1080p screen , bf4 maxed out : above 80fps all the time it also does this in other games such as The Crew and Call of duty AW and Far Cry3/4 so i am looking for a cheap as possible Nvidia GPU to drive my second screen , any suggestions ? NOTE : atm the card will need to drive 1024p @60hz , but i will upgrade my main monitor to 1440p in the near future so the GPU will have to drive 1080p @60hz soon , no gaming on second screen , it is just used for OBS , and twitch chat when i stream so any one have any suggestions ? Oh also i am in the UK and website dosent really matter thanks in advance FX 8350 with a 970.. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think there's mere bottleneck. Main Rig Case: NZXT H440 White | CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K @5.2GHz | CPU Cooler: Corsair H80i Hydro Series | Motherboard: MSI Z97S Krait Edition | RAM: HyperX Fury White & Black Series 16GB (4x4GB) OC to 2133MHz | Graphics Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 980 Ti ArcticStorm | SSD: Intel 730 Series 480GB & Samsung 840 256GB | HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200rpm | PSU: EVGA 750W Supernova G2 80+ Gold | Display: BenQ XL2420G & Samsung S20D300 | Headset: Corsair 1500 | Mouse: Logitech G700S | Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K70 Silver RED LED XENON Build: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V2 @3.3GHz | Intel DZ68BC | Corsair Dominator Platinum 2x4GB 1866MHz | Kingston HyperX 3k 240GB | MSI GeForce GTX 680 | Fractal Design Define R4 Titanium Grey | Seasonic 520W 80+ Platinum Fanless Office Build: Case: Fractal Focus G White | CPU: i5-8600K | CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo | Motherboard: MSI Z370-A PRO | RAM: Corsair LPX 16GB-2666 | GPU: MSI GTX 1060 6GB GAMING X | SSD: Kingston A400 240GB | HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200rpm | PSU: EVGA BT 450W+ Bronze Phone iPhone XS Max 512GB Gold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 26, 2015 Author FX 8350 with a 970.. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think there's mere bottleneck. that is a very common misconception , my 8350 does not bottleneck my 970 , i have already tested this ...... My Pc Specs CPU : AMD FX-8350 @stock w/Noctua NH D-14 Mobo: Asus M5A99FX Ram : 16gb Corsair XMS3 @1600mhz GPU : Gigabyte GTX970 Windforce OC 4GB @1429mhz SSD: Sandisk X110 256gb Case: Be Quiet Silent Base 800 Windowed PSU: EVGA 850w g2 Peripherals : Corsair K70 w/Red Switches , Logitech G502 , Samsung SyncMaster S22B300 (1920x1080) , Ttesports Shock one headset , Phone : HTC one A9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 26, 2015 Maybe a GT610? CPU: R5 5800X3D Motherboard - MSI X570 Gaming Plus RAM - 32GB Corsair DDR4 GPU - XFX 7900 XTX 4GB Case - NZXT H5 Flow (White) Storage - 2X 4TB Samsung 990 Pro PSU - Corsair RM100E Cooling - Corsair H100i Elite Capellix Keyboard Corsair K70 (Brown Switches) Mouse - Corsair Nightsword RGB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 26, 2015 that is a very common misconception , my 8350 does not bottleneck my 970 , i have already tested this ...... am pretty sure one dude will give links to some bottlenecks in a second NEVER GIVE UP. NEVER STOP LEARNING. DONT LET THE PAST HURT YOU. YOU CAN DOOOOO IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 26, 2015 hi everyone so i have noticed something weird with my current setup ( GTX970 driving 1x 1080p screen and 1x 1280x1024 screen) basically the second screen tanks my FPS when gaming on my 1080p screen , i will use BF4 as an example With both screens , bf4 maxed out : struggle top stay above 60fps single 1080p screen , bf4 maxed out : above 80fps all the time it also does this in other games such as The Crew and Call of duty AW and Far Cry3/4 so i am looking for a cheap as possible Nvidia GPU to drive my second screen , any suggestions ? NOTE : atm the card will need to drive 1024p @60hz , but i will upgrade my main monitor to 1440p in the near future so the GPU will have to drive 1080p @60hz soon , no gaming on second screen , it is just used for OBS , and twitch chat when i stream so any one have any suggestions ? Oh also i am in the UK and website dosent really matter thanks in advance maybe try lowering the graphics - ? it does stress the gpu when there is two screens. NEVER GIVE UP. NEVER STOP LEARNING. DONT LET THE PAST HURT YOU. YOU CAN DOOOOO IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 26, 2015 that is a very common misconception , my 8350 does not bottleneck my 970 , i have already tested this ...... FX 8350 with a 970.. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think there's mere bottleneck. Even my 4.8 GHz OC'ed FX-8320 slightly bottlenecks my GTX 970, averaging around 85% GPU usage during BF4. Face it man, there's a bottleneck. Intel Core i7-5820K (4.4 GHz) | Gigabyte GTX 970 G1 Gaming | Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB | 2x 360mm Custom Loop (Noctua iPPC) | ASRock X99 Extreme6 | Samsung 840 EVO 250GB | Fractal Design Define S | Corsair HX750 | Windows 10 | Corsair M65 RGB PRO | Corsair K70 RGB LUX (CherryMX Brown) | Beyerdynamic Custom One Pro & Creative Sound Blaster Z | Nexus 6P (32GB Aluminium) | Check out my setup: Project Kalte Here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 26, 2015 What exactly are you doing on the second monitor. I really don't think that you should be loosing 20 fps by having that monitor on. Windows 10 likes to spy on you. Protect your Data! Run GNU/Linux!That One Privacy Guy's VPN Comparison Chart. Spoiler Spoiler |ARCH LINUX| |CPU i5 4690k @ 4.7GHz| |GPU: Asus Strix 390x| |Mobo: Asus Sabertooth Z97 Mk 2| |RAM: Corsair Veangence Pro 16gb (2x8gb) @2133mhz| |CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i| |PSU: 750w EVGA Supernova 80+ Gold| |Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX(Silver)| |K/B: Pok3r w/ Cherry MX Blues| Spoiler |Samsung 250GB 840 EVO: Arch Linux installation.| |Seagate Barracuda 2TB: Mostly Games and stuff related to that. Music and most Media as well.| |Seagate NAS 4TB: Anime and Anime Art-Whoring.| |Seagate 1TB 2.5" SSHD: Arch install on my Thinkpad X220.| |Samsung OEM Lenovo SSD: Windows 8.1 cause I need to play JRPGs some how.| Spoiler |Cans: Sennheiser HD 558(Modded)| |Earbuds: Shure SE215| I'm working on expanding this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 26, 2015 Author maybe try lowering the graphics - ? it does stress the gpu when there is two screens. i would rather spring for a cheap GPU to run my second screen that sacrifice dem graphics My Pc Specs CPU : AMD FX-8350 @stock w/Noctua NH D-14 Mobo: Asus M5A99FX Ram : 16gb Corsair XMS3 @1600mhz GPU : Gigabyte GTX970 Windforce OC 4GB @1429mhz SSD: Sandisk X110 256gb Case: Be Quiet Silent Base 800 Windowed PSU: EVGA 850w g2 Peripherals : Corsair K70 w/Red Switches , Logitech G502 , Samsung SyncMaster S22B300 (1920x1080) , Ttesports Shock one headset , Phone : HTC one A9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 26, 2015 Author Even my 4.8 GHz OC'ed FX-8320 slightly bottlenecks my GTX 970, averaging around 85% GPU usage during BF4. Face it man, there's a bottleneck. that is just bf4 ..... , my brothers 4690k +970 PC does it aswell .... My Pc Specs CPU : AMD FX-8350 @stock w/Noctua NH D-14 Mobo: Asus M5A99FX Ram : 16gb Corsair XMS3 @1600mhz GPU : Gigabyte GTX970 Windforce OC 4GB @1429mhz SSD: Sandisk X110 256gb Case: Be Quiet Silent Base 800 Windowed PSU: EVGA 850w g2 Peripherals : Corsair K70 w/Red Switches , Logitech G502 , Samsung SyncMaster S22B300 (1920x1080) , Ttesports Shock one headset , Phone : HTC one A9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 26, 2015 that is just bf4 ..... , my brothers 4690k +970 PC does it aswell .... You did get me there, I've only really monitored GPU usage in BF4, I need to try more games. Intel Core i7-5820K (4.4 GHz) | Gigabyte GTX 970 G1 Gaming | Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB | 2x 360mm Custom Loop (Noctua iPPC) | ASRock X99 Extreme6 | Samsung 840 EVO 250GB | Fractal Design Define S | Corsair HX750 | Windows 10 | Corsair M65 RGB PRO | Corsair K70 RGB LUX (CherryMX Brown) | Beyerdynamic Custom One Pro & Creative Sound Blaster Z | Nexus 6P (32GB Aluminium) | Check out my setup: Project Kalte Here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 26, 2015 i would rather spring for a cheap GPU to run my second screen that sacrifice dem graphics I run two 1080p monitors and even with one 970, it was more than suffiecent for one gaming on BF4 at Ultra and one for other stuff. Then again, I'm using a 5820k My arsenal: i7-9700k Gaming Rig, an iPhone, and Stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 26, 2015 that is a very common misconception , my 8350 does not bottleneck my 970 , i have already tested this ...... Even my 4.8 GHz OC'ed FX-8320 slightly bottlenecks my GTX 970, averaging around 85% GPU usage during BF4. Face it man, there's a bottleneck. If the issue does not occur when running on one monitor, then it is NOT a bottleneck situation, so let's just drop the topic before it becomes another red vs blue war. "Rawr XD" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 26, 2015 What exactly are you doing on the second monitor. I really don't think that you should be loosing 20 fps by having that monitor on. ^ this in no case should running a second screen decrease FPS that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 26, 2015 GT 220? GT 610-740? Who is your profile pic? "Rawr XD" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 26, 2015 i have the same problem, but with an even worse CPU, when I have some youtube playing on my 2nd screen (1080p) i lose even 30% performance while playing - LoL goes from 100-110 FPS to 70-80 Planning on trying StarCitizen (Highly recommended)? STAR-NR5P-CJFR is my referal link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 26, 2015 Author What exactly are you doing on the second monitor. I really don't think that you should be loosing 20 fps by having that monitor on. I have a CPU meter and a GPU meter on it , when i stream i have OBS , and my twitch chat open on it My Pc Specs CPU : AMD FX-8350 @stock w/Noctua NH D-14 Mobo: Asus M5A99FX Ram : 16gb Corsair XMS3 @1600mhz GPU : Gigabyte GTX970 Windforce OC 4GB @1429mhz SSD: Sandisk X110 256gb Case: Be Quiet Silent Base 800 Windowed PSU: EVGA 850w g2 Peripherals : Corsair K70 w/Red Switches , Logitech G502 , Samsung SyncMaster S22B300 (1920x1080) , Ttesports Shock one headset , Phone : HTC one A9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 26, 2015 why not just sli 970s? Its a Championship not a Belt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 26, 2015 Author If the issue does not occur when running on one monitor, then it is NOT a bottleneck situation, so let's just drop the topic before it becomes another red vs blue war. Yes this exactly , my CPU is not the issue here , thank you for speaking sense lol My Pc Specs CPU : AMD FX-8350 @stock w/Noctua NH D-14 Mobo: Asus M5A99FX Ram : 16gb Corsair XMS3 @1600mhz GPU : Gigabyte GTX970 Windforce OC 4GB @1429mhz SSD: Sandisk X110 256gb Case: Be Quiet Silent Base 800 Windowed PSU: EVGA 850w g2 Peripherals : Corsair K70 w/Red Switches , Logitech G502 , Samsung SyncMaster S22B300 (1920x1080) , Ttesports Shock one headset , Phone : HTC one A9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 26, 2015 I have a CPU meter and a GPU meter on it , when i stream i have OBS , and my twitch chat open on it I can see you loosing 20+ fps when you are actually streaming and that would definitely seem to be a CPU bottleneck. Otherwise there is no way you should be loosing that much performance. I'm not saying its 100% your CPU's fault but it could be if you are streaming. Windows 10 likes to spy on you. Protect your Data! Run GNU/Linux!That One Privacy Guy's VPN Comparison Chart. Spoiler Spoiler |ARCH LINUX| |CPU i5 4690k @ 4.7GHz| |GPU: Asus Strix 390x| |Mobo: Asus Sabertooth Z97 Mk 2| |RAM: Corsair Veangence Pro 16gb (2x8gb) @2133mhz| |CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i| |PSU: 750w EVGA Supernova 80+ Gold| |Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX(Silver)| |K/B: Pok3r w/ Cherry MX Blues| Spoiler |Samsung 250GB 840 EVO: Arch Linux installation.| |Seagate Barracuda 2TB: Mostly Games and stuff related to that. Music and most Media as well.| |Seagate NAS 4TB: Anime and Anime Art-Whoring.| |Seagate 1TB 2.5" SSHD: Arch install on my Thinkpad X220.| |Samsung OEM Lenovo SSD: Windows 8.1 cause I need to play JRPGs some how.| Spoiler |Cans: Sennheiser HD 558(Modded)| |Earbuds: Shure SE215| I'm working on expanding this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 26, 2015 Author I can see you loosing 20+ fps when you are actually streaming and that would definitely seem to be a CPU bottleneck. Otherwise there is no way you should be loosing that much performance. FPS dosent really change when i stream , maybe 5fps difference , with that being said , it still dosent explain why i gain 20 fps with my second monitor disconnected ...... My Pc Specs CPU : AMD FX-8350 @stock w/Noctua NH D-14 Mobo: Asus M5A99FX Ram : 16gb Corsair XMS3 @1600mhz GPU : Gigabyte GTX970 Windforce OC 4GB @1429mhz SSD: Sandisk X110 256gb Case: Be Quiet Silent Base 800 Windowed PSU: EVGA 850w g2 Peripherals : Corsair K70 w/Red Switches , Logitech G502 , Samsung SyncMaster S22B300 (1920x1080) , Ttesports Shock one headset , Phone : HTC one A9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 26, 2015 Who is your profile pic? Anna Kendrick Main Rig: CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X | RAM: 32GB (2x16GB) KLEVV CRAS XR RGB DDR4-3600 | Motherboard: Gigabyte B550I AORUS PRO AX | Storage: 512GB SKHynix PC401, 1TB Samsung 970 EVO Plus, 2x Micron 1100 256GB SATA SSDs | GPU: EVGA RTX 3080 FTW3 Ultra 10GB | Cooling: ThermalTake Floe 280mm w/ be quiet! Pure Wings 3 | Case: Sliger SM580 (Black) | PSU: Lian Li SP 850W Server: CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3100 | RAM: 32GB (2x16GB) Crucial DDR4 Pro | Motherboard: ASUS PRIME B550-PLUS AC-HES | Storage: 128GB Samsung PM961, 4TB Seagate IronWolf | GPU: AMD FirePro WX 3100 | Cooling: EK-AIO Elite 360 D-RGB | Case: Corsair 5000D Airflow (White) | PSU: Seasonic Focus GM-850 Miscellaneous: Dell Optiplex 7060 Micro (i5-8500T/16GB/512GB), Lenovo ThinkCentre M715q Tiny (R5 2400GE/16GB/256GB), Dell Optiplex 7040 SFF (i5-6400/8GB/128GB) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 26, 2015 Anna Kendrick of course. lol "Rawr XD" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 26, 2015 FPS dosent really change when i stream , maybe 5fps difference , with that being said , it still dosent explain why i gain 20 fps with my second monitor disconnected ...... Ok then its not your CPU. Um I still don't understand why you are losing that much performance. This is honestly the extent of my knowledge gone. Do you have another monitor you can borrow and try with it? I don't think this specific monitor could lead to this problem but possibly. Windows 10 likes to spy on you. Protect your Data! Run GNU/Linux!That One Privacy Guy's VPN Comparison Chart. Spoiler Spoiler |ARCH LINUX| |CPU i5 4690k @ 4.7GHz| |GPU: Asus Strix 390x| |Mobo: Asus Sabertooth Z97 Mk 2| |RAM: Corsair Veangence Pro 16gb (2x8gb) @2133mhz| |CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i| |PSU: 750w EVGA Supernova 80+ Gold| |Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX(Silver)| |K/B: Pok3r w/ Cherry MX Blues| Spoiler |Samsung 250GB 840 EVO: Arch Linux installation.| |Seagate Barracuda 2TB: Mostly Games and stuff related to that. Music and most Media as well.| |Seagate NAS 4TB: Anime and Anime Art-Whoring.| |Seagate 1TB 2.5" SSHD: Arch install on my Thinkpad X220.| |Samsung OEM Lenovo SSD: Windows 8.1 cause I need to play JRPGs some how.| Spoiler |Cans: Sennheiser HD 558(Modded)| |Earbuds: Shure SE215| I'm working on expanding this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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