Posted January 22, 2015 Hello everyone at Linus Tech Tips. I have a very important but yet idiotic question. I did do my research before this and I have more questions that I cant seem to find answers for. I recently did a build with a AMD FX 8350 8 core processor. (not that great I know since its actually only 4 cores thanks AMD) Along with a MSI 970 Gaming G series motherboard And GPU EVGA GTX 760 2 GB. Link to CPU- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113284&cm_re=AMD_FX_8350-_-19-113-284-_-Product Link to Mobo- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130790&cm_re=MSI_970_gaming-_-13-130-790-_-Product Now I have been doing my very own research and found out the frames I am getting are beyond low to what I am suppose to be getting. And upon further research my CPU is bottle necking upon my investigation. I have a couple questions. Will this CPU bottle neck on Minecraft, TF2 (mvm), SimCity, Arma 2, DayZ and GTA. My CPU temp doesnt ever pass 30 degrees C. My GPU sticks around 35 as well. But if it happens to be my CPU. Is it possible for me to "upgrade" my system from AMD to Intel. Can I change the motherboard and CPU? And still be running windows as normal? Or do I have to undergo certain changes? Thank you for your time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Posted January 22, 2015 Hello everyone at Linus Tech Tips. I have a very important but yet idiotic question. I did do my research before this and I have more questions that I cant seem to find answers for. I recently did a build with a AMD FX 8350 8 core processor. (not that great I know since its actually only 4 cores thanks AMD) Along with a MSI 970 Gaming G series motherboard And GPU EVGA GTX 760 2 GB. Link to CPU- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113284&cm_re=AMD_FX_8350-_-19-113-284-_-Product Link to Mobo- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130790&cm_re=MSI_970_gaming-_-13-130-790-_-Product Now I have been doing my very own research and found out the frames I am getting are beyond low to what I am suppose to be getting. And upon further research my CPU is bottle necking upon my investigation. I have a couple questions. Will this CPU bottle neck on Minecraft, TF2 (mvm), SimCity, Arma 2, DayZ and GTA. My CPU temp doesnt ever pass 30 degrees C. My GPU sticks around 35 as well. But if it happens to be my CPU. Is it possible for me to "upgrade" my system from AMD to Intel. Can I change the motherboard and CPU? And still be running windows as normal? Or do I have to undergo certain changes? Thank you for your time. First off, you do have 8 physical cores, let there be no mistake about that, it's just that the way the memory is moduled causes it to act more like a hyperthreaded quad core. second off, on your temps, are you positive that your PSU is powerful enough? and in terms of swapping out mobo AND CPU? I'm pretty sure Windows Genuine validation will void your license until you reinstall. QUOTE ME OR I PROBABLY WON'T SEE YOUR RESPONSE My Setup: Desktop Spoiler CPU: Ryzen 9 3900X CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 Motherboard: Asus Prime X370-PRO RAM: 32GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 @3200MHz GPU: EVGA RTX 2080 FTW3 ULTRA (+50 core +400 memory) Storage: 1050GB Crucial MX300, 1TB Crucial MX500 PSU: EVGA Supernova 750 P2 Chassis: NZXT Noctis 450 White/Blue OS: Windows 10 Professional Displays: Asus MG279Q FreeSync OC, LG 27GL850-B Main Laptop: Spoiler Laptop: Sager NP 8678-S CPU: Intel Core i7 6820HK @ 2.7GHz RAM: 32GB DDR4 @ 2133MHz GPU: GTX 980m 8GB Storage: 250GB Samsung 850 EVO M.2 + 1TB Samsung 850 Pro + 1TB 7200RPM HGST HDD OS: Windows 10 Pro Chassis: Clevo P670RG Audio: HyperX Cloud II Gunmetal, Audio Technica ATH-M50s, JBL Creature II Thinkpad T420: Spoiler CPU: i5 2520M RAM: 8GB DDR3 Storage: 275GB Crucial MX30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 22, 2015 Author First off, you do have 8 physical cores, let there be no mistake about that, it's just that the way the memory is moduled causes it to act more like a hyperthreaded quad core. second off, on your temps, are you positive that your PSU is powerful enough? and in terms of swapping out mobo AND CPU? I'm pretty sure Windows Genuine validation will void your license until you reinstall. I'm not changing any drives just CPU and Mobo, I'd have to reinstall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 22, 2015 First off, you do have 8 physical cores, let there be no mistake about that, it's just that the way the memory is moduled causes it to act more like a hyperthreaded quad core. second off, on your temps, are you positive that your PSU is powerful enough? and in terms of swapping out mobo AND CPU? I'm pretty sure Windows Genuine validation will void your license until you reinstall. U wot m8? You think some psu that can run amd fx can't run intel? And windows 8.1 license doesn't void does not matter how many times you reinstall, just has to be activated one key for one computer. I'm not changing any drives just CPU and Mobo, I'd have to reinstall? You can make it work without reinstalling, but it's not recommended Location: Kaunas, Lithuania, Europe, Earth, Solar System, Local Interstellar Cloud, Local Bubble, Gould Belt, Orion Arm, Milky Way, Milky Way subgroup, Local Group, Virgo Supercluster, Laniakea, Pisces–Cetus Supercluster Complex, Observable universe, Universe. Spoiler 12700, B660M Mortar DDR4, 32GB 3200C16 Viper Steel, 2TB SN570, EVGA Supernova G6 850W, be quiet! 500FX, EVGA 3070Ti FTW3 Ultra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 22, 2015 Author First off, you do have 8 physical cores, let there be no mistake about that, it's just that the way the memory is moduled causes it to act more like a hyperthreaded quad core. second off, on your temps, are you positive that your PSU is powerful enough? and in terms of swapping out mobo AND CPU? I'm pretty sure Windows Genuine validation will void your license until you reinstall. Oh and yes, Im running an 850 Watt PSU. EVGA Supernova 850 bronze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 22, 2015 Author Oh and yes, Im running an 850 Watt PSU. EVGA Supernova 850 bronze. So this could work but I would have to reinstall windows. Would I want to do this before I swap or after on first boot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 22, 2015 So this could work but I would have to reinstall windows. Would I want to do this before I swap or after on first boot? Do you have a hard drive? If you do just save the files you need on it, unplug the hard drive. Change the mobo and cpu. Install fresh windows on ssd and plug the hard drive back in. That would be the cleanest solution. Location: Kaunas, Lithuania, Europe, Earth, Solar System, Local Interstellar Cloud, Local Bubble, Gould Belt, Orion Arm, Milky Way, Milky Way subgroup, Local Group, Virgo Supercluster, Laniakea, Pisces–Cetus Supercluster Complex, Observable universe, Universe. Spoiler 12700, B660M Mortar DDR4, 32GB 3200C16 Viper Steel, 2TB SN570, EVGA Supernova G6 850W, be quiet! 500FX, EVGA 3070Ti FTW3 Ultra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 22, 2015 In those specific games, that CPU is limiting you. I recommend you overclock as much as possible, but even that won't solve your problems. Those specific games want strong cores, not many weak ones. If you are within the 30 day return period, I would return that CPU and mobo. An i3 will perform much better in those games, and for the same amount of money, you could even afford an i5 + H81/B85. "I genuinely dislike the promulgation of false information, especially to people who are asking for help selecting new parts." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 22, 2015 you basically listed you play a bunch of games that run much better on intel than amd check here before building next time LGA775 Overclocking Guide - LGA771 to LGA 775 mod - Rigs in spoiler - Subzero Overclocker - HWBOT - Sandybridge-E Frequency WR Holder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 23, 2015 Author Do you have a hard drive? If you do just save the files you need on it, unplug the hard drive. Change the mobo and cpu. Install fresh windows on ssd and plug the hard drive back in. That would be the cleanest solution. Would I have to purchase a new Windows installation Disk or? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 23, 2015 Author you basically listed you play a bunch of games that run much better on intel than amd check here before building next time I did resarch a lot I think I researched for about 4 months before buying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 23, 2015 I did resarch a lot I think I researched for about 4 months before buying. unfortunately you came to the wrong conclusion LGA775 Overclocking Guide - LGA771 to LGA 775 mod - Rigs in spoiler - Subzero Overclocker - HWBOT - Sandybridge-E Frequency WR Holder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 23, 2015 Would I have to purchase a new Windows installation Disk or? if you have windows 8 you can reuse the key. Location: Kaunas, Lithuania, Europe, Earth, Solar System, Local Interstellar Cloud, Local Bubble, Gould Belt, Orion Arm, Milky Way, Milky Way subgroup, Local Group, Virgo Supercluster, Laniakea, Pisces–Cetus Supercluster Complex, Observable universe, Universe. Spoiler 12700, B660M Mortar DDR4, 32GB 3200C16 Viper Steel, 2TB SN570, EVGA Supernova G6 850W, be quiet! 500FX, EVGA 3070Ti FTW3 Ultra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 23, 2015 i swaped motherboard and CPU twice last year without ever having to re-install windows...only new drivers. | CPU: Core i7-8700K @ 4.89ghz - 1.21v | Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING | CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i V2 | | GPU: MSI RTX 3080Ti Ventus 3X OC | RAM: 32GB T-Force Delta RGB 3066mhz | | Displays: Acer Predator XB270HU 1440p Gsync 144hz IPS Gaming monitor | Oculus Quest 2 VR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 23, 2015 First off, you do have 8 physical cores, let there be no mistake about that, it's just that the way the memory is moduled causes it to act more like a hyperthreaded quad core. second off, on your temps, are you positive that your PSU is powerful enough? and in terms of swapping out mobo AND CPU? I'm pretty sure Windows Genuine validation will void your license until you reinstall. Windows will either do one of 3 things 1. Flip out and force you to re-install 2. Tell you windows is not genuine and force you to call Microsoft to get it sorted out 3. Be completely fine with it and ask for net drivers Processor: Intel Xeon E3-1231V3 Motherboard: Gigabyte Z97X-UD3h Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB Video Cards: XFX HD 7850 Ghost Monitors: 3x Acer 23" LED LCD Cooling: Corsair H80i PSU: Cooler Master 600 Watt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 23, 2015 Windows will either do one of 3 things 1. Flip out and force you to re-install 2. Tell you windows is not genuine and force you to call Microsoft to get it sorted out 3. Be completely fine with it and ask for net drivers Usually it's number 2 when it comes to swapping out a Mobo AND CPU. QUOTE ME OR I PROBABLY WON'T SEE YOUR RESPONSE My Setup: Desktop Spoiler CPU: Ryzen 9 3900X CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 Motherboard: Asus Prime X370-PRO RAM: 32GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 @3200MHz GPU: EVGA RTX 2080 FTW3 ULTRA (+50 core +400 memory) Storage: 1050GB Crucial MX300, 1TB Crucial MX500 PSU: EVGA Supernova 750 P2 Chassis: NZXT Noctis 450 White/Blue OS: Windows 10 Professional Displays: Asus MG279Q FreeSync OC, LG 27GL850-B Main Laptop: Spoiler Laptop: Sager NP 8678-S CPU: Intel Core i7 6820HK @ 2.7GHz RAM: 32GB DDR4 @ 2133MHz GPU: GTX 980m 8GB Storage: 250GB Samsung 850 EVO M.2 + 1TB Samsung 850 Pro + 1TB 7200RPM HGST HDD OS: Windows 10 Pro Chassis: Clevo P670RG Audio: HyperX Cloud II Gunmetal, Audio Technica ATH-M50s, JBL Creature II Thinkpad T420: Spoiler CPU: i5 2520M RAM: 8GB DDR3 Storage: 275GB Crucial MX30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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