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I'd assume you'd be going with the FX series, which as far as I know are all unlocked. 

 

AMD has really fallen back on the high end CPU market though. Even their top of the line FX CPUs are behind some of Intel's mid-high range CPUs. For games at least. 

Oh yeah ofc, it would be stupid to run FX-8XXX and up without an 990FX chipset and a 8+2 Power design. ESPECIALLY if you're overclocking. Anything less on such a high TDP CPU and you're asking for trouble.

It can be done on less, but the risk of problems arising is increased. I see the motherboard in your profile used a lot with FX8s, and it is routinely being switched out for higher end motherboards because it has problems running FX6s and FX8s. It doesn't happen to everyone, but it happens enough that it needs to be avoided.

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It can be done on less, but the risk of problems arising is increased. I see the motherboard in your profile used a lot with FX8s, and it is routinely being switched out for higher end motherboards because it has problems running FX6s and FX8s. It doesn't happen to everyone, but it happens enough that it needs to be avoided.

 

I actually don't use any FX processors in my personal PC. Still rocking my very old Phenom II x4 960T in this one.

 

The 8320 that I use is in the family office, and it's on an MSI 990FXA-GD80v2. I never had any problems with it, but I knew a good board was necessary 

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actually APU also have the similar issue

 

the lower end FM2+ boards do not have heatsinks on the VRM

 

the A10-7850k on the A58 boards will also throttle

 

There are much newer boards supporting the FM2 platform though, and I've seen plenty good ones. The AM3 platform however, is old as dust

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There are much newer boards supporting the FM2 platform though, and I've seen plenty good ones. The AM3 platform however, is old as dust

typically if i were to run the 860k or A10

 

i will go only the A88X chipset ATX mobos

 

the power phases on the atx board are generally better and build for OC

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I actually don't use any FX processors in my personal PC. Still rocking my very old Phenom II x4 960T in this one.

 

The 8320 that I use is in the family office, and it's on an MSI 990FXA-GD80v2. I never had any problems with it, but I knew a good board was necessary

Ya, that mobo is an 8+2 VRM phase motherboard and shouldn't give you any problems even with an overclock. Thing is, once you factor in price of a high end motherboard like that which is basically a necessity, you are spending as much as a locked i5 +H81/B85 motherboard which will outperform the FX in most situations. An i3 outperforms the FX8s in a lot of areas as well. So depending on the type of work he does, going with an FX makes no sense. It always comes down to picking the right tool for the job, and without know what specific job is being done, we can't make a proper recommendation. A CPU for an office is far too vague.

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for a "general purpose" office pc go with an AMD apu. I built a couple 6600k machines with 2133Mhz Ram here a year ago, and they are overkill. I don't foresee them needing replacement for a really long time yet (unless something takes a whole system out at once). AMD cpu's are as good or better for math, encryption, compression, and repetitive tasks. perfect for office computing. you get the added bonus of actual GPU cores and strong compute capability for cheap with an APU. great for light photo/design stuff, and anything adobe or open source as well.

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For work an office grab an I3 or Pentium

 

My g3220 pentium in my home server and in my pc at work are perfectly capable CPUs and cost very little, sure AMD have some bang for buck CPUs but I see no reason you HAVEEEE to go AMD

 

Cost and budget is one reason.

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An Athlon X4 860K probably will do the job just fine, I have yet to understand why this forum is so obsessed with Intel even for budget builds AMD has it's place and while it may not stand firmly on that place there is no need to hate on it. If you could afford more perhaps the A10 7850K would be a good option though as others have said Black edition and FX AMD CPUs/APUs are unlocked. Frankly if AMD had a hyper thread 4 core with 8 thread APU or Athlon black edition CPU or a stronger 6 or 8 core FX CPU I wouldn't mind going AMD and Zen core is set to release later this year or earlier next year and nothing has really been teased or said about it which I guess is good but also kind of like errmmm so AMD hows Zen coming along?

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Cost and budget is one reason.

inB4 I'm called on Fanboyism but.....

 

Dunno about that, there are plenty of cheap CPU's that will do the job for such tasks and I wouldn't call AMD a budget option when lowend Intel CPU/Mobo's are cheap as chips, and have better IPC as well.

You could do the same office type tasks on both companies CPU's and not notice no difference, but Intel isn't always a dearer option.

 

I chase IPC for my systems (or realistic bang for buck) but that doesn't mean I won't recommend something AMD if the tasks at hand requires it, for office stuff, AMD or Intel have similarly priced parts and either choice won't be right or wrong for those tasks you require.

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I would wait until Zen before considering going AMD. Your i5-4460 trumps all of the current FX microprocessors available right now.

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 since you ask about overcloking than amd is not that cheap. you need beefy motherboards.and why would you overclock an office pc?

You want those Word letters to be beefy. :P

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 (or realistic back for buck) 

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Back for Buck yes?

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Back for Buck yes?

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inB4 I'm called on Fanboyism but.....

 

Dunno about that, there are plenty of cheap CPU's that will do the job for such tasks and I wouldn't call AMD a budget option when lowend Intel CPU/Mobo's are cheap as chips, and have better IPC as well.

You could do the same office type tasks on both companies CPU's and not notice no difference, but Intel isn't always a dearer option.

 

I chase IPC for my systems (or realistic bang for buck) but that doesn't mean I won't recommend something AMD if the tasks at hand requires it, for office stuff, AMD or Intel have similarly priced parts and either choice won't be right or wrong for those tasks you require.

 

Without a doubt, there are benefits from Intel CPU's compared to AMD. And you can get a pretty good Intel CPU that doesn't cost alot that performs good.

But it all depends on what people plan to use it for.

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Without a doubt, there are benefits from Intel CPU's compared to AMD. And you can get a pretty good Intel CPU that doesn't cost alot that performs good.

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113284&cm_re=amd-_-19-113-284-_-Product

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116919

 

But it all depends on what people plan to use it for.

Why did you link a $560 Mobile processor?

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I have both CPU's twofold (i7 4790k, i5 4670k (wife's box), AMD 8350, and 8320). Simply put those AMD's make for good servers on a budget. My 8350 does my streaming for twitch and handles a mincraft server without batting an eye. Right now I am experimenting with a multiheaded PC configuration on my 8320. For the OP looking to do office work on them this would be a good money saver and you only have to buy one rather than two computers. And being that you are looking at an 8 core, with the multihead you can even split the CPU up between them. Just a few things to consider here since you are looking for a cheap office build, or at least get the most out of your side project.

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My personal PC is Intel, as you can see in the signature, I need cheaper AMD machines for office and work :) As personal option I will never go red :D

 

I will always go red, but not in terms of CPU. LOL

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Why did you link a $560 Mobile processor?

 

As an example, not saying amd processors are better because their cheaper though.

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The FX moniker means it's unlocked by default, it's like extreme editions- FX used to be AMDs kick ass series (E.g. Athlon FX).

 

Otherwise anything marked as "Black Edition" is unlocked. Although on their APU stuff they seem to be moving towards the "K" suffix.

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At least give us a reason to see your opinion through :P

 

You are downgrading, must be an apparent reason to. 

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How's the $560 CPU a good example in relation to what you said? :P

 

As someone's personal preference, they might want that CPU. Maybe they'd want that AMD one. Maybe a cheaper, maybe a higher cost. Who knows lol.

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