Is it bad I wish I got an FX 8320? :O

[Majestic]

Also, I can't afford 2011-3 sockets!

 

Well then deal with waiting a bit, or accelerate it someway else (CUDA, QuickSync). 8320 wouldn't have made any difference. 

 

And I find it pretty amazing how you can be upset they're suggesting you're trolling. You start a ludicrous thread, and act suprised they find it suspicious. And instead of explaining yourself you start lashing out.

You really see no error in logic with that?

 

Again, /thread.

[Deletive]

That's what I was worried about but I was thinking if I overclocked it to 4.4ghz or 4.6ghz it would of lessened it.

Min fps in games would be lowered when compared to a Intel CPU. this is even noticable on mid tier cards. when in the higher end tiers the lower min fps begins to slow down the card quite a bit.

[vlkn´]

I don't appreciate what you're saying. Quite offensive to be honest.

 

I already have my computer built, clearly didn't read the thread correctly.

Quite offensive?

hahahah

You are telling me, that if you sell your old components, you don´t have 100-130$+ to afford an i7? 

And your own parents won´t give you a few $?

It´s ok.

[Tim Drake]

Quite offensive?

hahahah

You are telling me, that if you sell your old components, you don´t have 100-130$+ to afford an i7?

And your own parents won´t give you a few $?

It´s ok.

My parents can barely afford to pay the WiFi bills. So please, just stop.

Old components? The only part I have worth anything is an i3-2100.

Well then deal with waiting a bit, or accelerate it someway else (CUDA, QuickSync). 8320 wouldn't have made any difference.

And I find it pretty amazing how you can be upset they're suggesting you're trolling. You start a ludicrous thread, and act suprised they find it suspicious. And instead of explaining yourself you start lashing out.

You really see no error in logic with that?

Again, /thread.

Instead of doing that, why don't you just stop posting on this thread?

CUDA doesn't speed up for me and I still don't know how to even activate QuickSync or use it.

[vlkn´]

My parents can barely afford to pay the WiFi bills. So please, just stop.

 

Old components? The only part I have worth anything is an i3-2100.

Sorry,

hmm, but I meant your computer what you´re using now. (i5)+mainboard.

 

I don´t think it´s worth it to "upgrade??" to an 8320. It´s like people saying they buy Nvidia quadros for their "important calculations" and only playing games in the end with it.

The fact is, you won´t be rendering as much as you think. And streaming with an i5 is not the big of a problem as you think, especially if you don´t run 5-10 applications while you´re gaming.

 

Just see how well it goes with your livestream, and maybe save some money to get an i7 6 core in the future if you are starting to make a little money out of it.

[Tim Drake]

Sorry,

hmm, but I meant your computer what you´re using now. (i5)+mainboard.

 

I don´t think it´s worth it to "upgrade??" to an 8320. It´s like people saying they buy Nvidia quadros for their "important calculations" and only playing games in the end with it.

The fact is, you won´t be rendering as much as you think. And streaming with an i5 is not the big of a problem as you think, especially if you don´t run 5-10 applications while you´re gaming.

 

Just see how well it goes with your livestream, and maybe save some money to get an i7 6 core in the future if you are starting to make a little money out of it.

 

I'm not upgrading I just was wondering if I would of been better off with an FX 8320.

 

Also, I need my CPU to do more work as my upload speeds SUCK for 720p.

[vlkn´]

I don´t think it has something to do with your cpu...

It´s just the slow upload speed from your internet provider.

You´ll need to get a much greater connection to stream in full hd with high bitrate.

 

But like you said, your parents can barely pay the connection you own now.

[Tim Drake]

I don´t think it has something to do with your cpu...

It´s just the slow upload speed from your internet provider.

You´ll need to get a much greater connection to stream in full hd with high bitrate.

 

But like you said, your parents can barely pay the connection you own now.

 

I know that, that's why I need my CPU to encode better so there is less to upload.

[vlkn´]

I know that, that's why I need my CPU to encode better so there is less to upload.

Ok, I think I´m gonna leave. Becauze my brainz hurtz.

[Ripull]

Intel for gaming 100%

AMD for multitasking 100%

You're making me cringe. Can you not?

[MEC-777]

I know that, that's why I need my CPU to encode better so there is less to upload.

 

It doesn't work like that... Encoding is encoding, regardless of what CPU you use. The only difference is one CPU will encode faster or slower than the other. The actual file size doesn't change depending on how quickly your CPU can encode it. >_<

 

With regards to the question in your OP; No you wouldn't be better off with an 8320. Just OC your 4670K and enjoy. There really won't be much difference encoding with the program you use and you'll loose out on performance in other applications/gaming with the FX as well. You really are better off with what you have. 

 

Also, it's not as simple as "more cores and more threads". You also have to look at the architecture and IPC per core. The FX and Haswell CPUs are very different from each other, architecturally and cannot simply be compared on number of core/threads in this way. In *some* instances, yes, the FX 8-core CPUs can perform better, but in the majority of cases, the 4670's are still king. It's just the way it is. "Multi-tasking" can mean different things depending on what you have running and just because CPU "X" has 8 cores/threads doesn't necessarily mean it will "multi-task" better than CPU "Y" with only 4 cores/threads.

[i_build_nanosuits]

I really don't want any hate. I never realised how many videos I would be rendering or how much I would be live streaming but I am starting to wish I got an FX 8320 and overclocked it.

 

Pros if I got an FX:

Rendering would be faster

Livestreaming would be better

 

Cons:

Less upgradability

 

Will update as I go along

hey bro...a slow outdated unneficient fx chip is really not the key to all this...what you want/need is an i7...and your i5 is worth at leas 160$ used still..and ive seen i7-4770k as low as 215$ lately so just take the plounge its a 70$ upgrade at worst that is totaly worth it..

[Tim Drake]

You're making me cringe. Can you not?

Kthnxbai

@MEC-777 But with a higher CPU settings on an FX 8320 (you can go one higher setting with the FX 8320) it will look nicer at a lower bit rate.

Also, it may not be much faster but the FX 8320 over clocked does render slightly faster than the i5.

[Fate]

@MEC-777 But with a higher CPU settings on an FX 8320 (you can go one higher setting with the FX 8320) it will look nicer at a lower bit rate.

Also, it may not be much faster but the FX 8320 over clocked does render slightly faster than the i5.

So you're willing to give up very reduced minimum fps and slightly reduced average fps on just about every game for maybe 5% render speeds?

Whatever floats your boat bud.

[Tim Drake]

So you're willing to give up very reduced minimum fps and slightly reduced average fps on just about every game for maybe 5% render speeds?

Whatever floats your boat bud.

Some people need to learn to read to be honest. I AM NOT CHANGING. I AM NOT LOOKING TO CHANGE.

I AM SIMPLY ASKING IF I MADE THE RIGHT CHOICE. So please learn to read "bud"

@i_build_nanosuits yeah I will probably save up for an i7 at some point. Would be really useful. Only thing I'm not looking forward to is removing the motherboard and redoing the hyper 212 EVO

[lutewan]

Some people need to learn to read to be honest. I AM NOT CHANGING. I AM NOT LOOKING TO CHANGE.

I AM SIMPLY ASKING IF I MADE THE RIGHT CHOICE. So please learn to read "bud"

Ok then u did make the right choice

[Fate]

Some people need to learn to read to be honest. I AM NOT CHANGING. I AM NOT LOOKING TO CHANGE.

I AM SIMPLY ASKING IF I MADE THE RIGHT CHOICE. So please learn to read "bud"

"I wish I got an FX 8320"

No need to type in all caps, also, I can clearly read otherwise I wouldn't have been able to respond to this thread nor would I have over 2,000 posts (not like posts matter of course, just pointing it out there).

[Clear17Mud]

wow I actually read this whole thing to laugh at the fanboys but you guys are being really mean to Tim Drake

[Fate]

wow I actually read this whole thing to laugh at the fanboys but you guys are being really mean to Tim Drake

 

Its suppose to be caps its a brand name... and you quoted the wrong part

I wasn't talking about "FX" being in caps, if that's what you meant...

If you reread his post you can see that half of it was in CAPS.

 

 

But this 'argument' is pointless, so I'm not going to continue as there's no point, sorry if I offended anybody @Tim Drake

[Tim Drake]

wow I actually read this whole thing to laugh at the fanboys but you guys are being really mean to Tim Drake

I know right

[faziten]

Yes, actually FX8 can do a lot better gaming + live streaming vid. Is one combination that benefits from multiple cores rather than beefier ones. (Tek syndicate showed last year on 3570K Vs FX8350) It's just how it is.

[Majestic]

Yes, actually FX8 can do a lot better gaming + live streaming vid. Is one combination that benefits from multiple cores rather than beefier ones. (Tek syndicate showed last year on 3570K Vs FX8350) It's just how it is.

 

No, it's not. It's the case with 4690K vs. 5960X. Not the case with 8320 vs 4690K. 8 weak cores don't beat 4 strong ones. That TekSyndicate video, again, is horrible.

[crystal6tak]

 

8350 4.8ghz vs 3570k 4.3ghz (AMD build had 1866mhz ram while Intel had 1600mhz ram)

 

8350: 119 seconds

3570k: 138 seconds

 

Now consider:

His intel build had slower ram.

Haswell cores are 6-8% faster than Ivy bridge cores

Your 4670k is at 4.4ghz. His is at 4.3ghz.

His 8350 was clocked at 4.8ghz.

 

I highly doubt an 8350 would be any better than your current 4670k clocked at 4.4ghz.

[faziten]

No, it's not. It's the case with 4690K vs. 5960X. Not the case with 8320 vs 4690K. 8 weak cores don't beat 4 strong ones. That TekSyndicate video, again, is horrible.

The tek syndicate video, shows a very specific scenario. Xplit + gaming. In this case FX has a huge edge over a 3570K.

Also 8 weak cores CAN and do beat 4 strong cores (this is a very general claim). ie: 7zip performance is a LOT better in FX than on any intel quadcore not hyperthreaded cpu at any given clockspeed. 

 

Is this enough to say fx is canonically better? ofc not! would anyone recommend a fx over an sandy/ivy/haswell i5 (performance wise) Hell no! It's just a particular scenario were things turn arround. 

[Razzaa]

@ OP

 

You have multiple answers now. Please mark this thread as answered so everyone can move on. Thanks.