Why AMD is so important?

[ImBleu]

Mericans cant speak English

 

edit ure welcome to fix it

 

He speaks a different English, leave him alone.

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Intel would not charge $700 for an i5 because then nobody would buy their processors, and that would completely stop advancement in new technologies, which is not what intel wants.

Not everything is about money money money in this world, and (most) large companies understand this.

 

Also another thing is that if intel became a monopoly charging $700 for an i5, it would be easy for other companies to rise and make less powerful but cheaper CPUs that people could actually afford. This would then turn into new competition, bringing down prices again because people would pay less for cheaper CPUs than $700 for an i5. This is why even if AMD didnt exist, intel would not increase the price of their CPUs by 400% since that would basically make them go bankrupt.

yes they would still buy them, simply because there is no other choice. Thats a monopoly.

Even Intel cares about profit and their bottom line, just like every other company.

It is extremely difficult to start a CPU manufacturing company, not to mention the extreme initial funding.

 

Intel can't go bankrupt as an monopoly (or at least very hard to and can easily put prices down once a competitor arises to bankrupt them and then jack up prices again) for as long as high end computers are required in today's society.

[ImBleu]

Intel would not charge $700 for an i5 because then nobody would buy their processors, and that would completely stop advancement in new technologies, which is not what intel wants.

Not everything is about money money money in this world, and (most) large companies understand this.

 

Also another thing is that if intel became a monopoly charging $700 for an i5, it would be easy for other companies to rise and make less powerful but cheaper CPUs that people could actually afford. This would then turn into new competition, bringing down prices again because people would pay less for cheaper CPUs than $700 for an i5. This is why even if AMD didnt exist, intel would not increase the price of their CPUs by 400% since that would basically make them go bankrupt.

 

Insert Nvidia making desktop-grade CPUs.

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Insert Nvidia making desktop-grade CPUs.

though it would still be a very big investment. Though it wouldnt be impossible for them.

Didn't think of that. But they would probably still have to rely on Global Foundries, etc., etc. and that would determine their die size and such because Nvidia is still a relatively small company to build their own fabs.

[Enderman]

yes they would still buy them, simply because there is no other choice. Thats a monopoly.

Even Intel cares about profit and their bottom line, just like every other company.

It is extremely difficult to start a CPU manufacturing company, not to mention the extreme initial funding.

 

Intel can't go bankrupt as an monopoly (or at least very hard to and can easily put prices down once a competitor arises to bankrupt them and then jack up prices again) for as long as high end computers are required in today's society.

The fact is that if they put their prices up that high, new competitors would come, even if their CPUs were extremely low end.

For most people, buying an affordable bad-performing CPU would be the only option, not spending $700 for an i5.

 

Due to the huge amounts of people that would be buying those cheap CPUs, intel would have to drop their prices to appeal to consumers again (which is sort of what they are doing with AMD right now, since AMD is only making budget CPUs)

 

Also if intel really did put prices up that high, it would be easy for some other silicon manufacturer to start a kickstarter and raise millions to create affordable CPUs that perform badly, but which people can actually buy.

[Sandvich]

I have never even heard about cyrix.

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Hell, Intel and Nvidia could probably kill AMD if they actually wanted to. Both want AMD around because they're both direct competitors to AMD.

 

All companies are American based, if none of them have any sort of competition they would eventually be scrutinized and held with antitrust limitations/punishment.

And neither can do any sort of charade that American ISPs do.

[LamboLaddy]

Just remember, AMD is winning the console wars right now.

[DIV1D3]

there would be ZERO competition which equals less new goodies for the consumers and a slower advancement in technology

Which is exactly why AMD needs to step up their game, Intel has slowed down and taken it easy because there's really no competition. 

It's almost always that Intel > AMD for a CPU choice. 

The G3258, 4690 and 4790 are pretty much all you need to know about when it comes to the low, mid-high and high end processors. 

But there is the >$200 price difference with the G3258 and 4690K. 

[DIV1D3]

Just remember, AMD is winning the console wars right now.

Winning in "the console wars", is that really an accomplishment?  

[SteveGrabowski]

We need AMD because they have been an incredibly innovative company for most of the last 20 years. As a long-time AMD fan it kills me to be going blue right now.

[LamboLaddy]

Winning in "the console wars", is that really an accomplishment?  

It is when you're making buttloads of cash for hardware that you basically had in a theoretical bin somewhere in the attic.

[Briggsy]

Winning in "the console wars", is that really an accomplishment?  

 

Actually it is. The repercussions of Games being built around AMD's APU architecture will be felt heavily in the next couple years. Per core performance in AAA gaming has been dying slowly with bigger engines like Crytek 3 and Frostbite 3 that can scale across 8 threads with ease... I wager by the end of next year that 4-thread CPU's will be an absolute bare minimum for most AAA games to even run.  

[SteveGrabowski]

Actually it is. The repercussions of Games being built around AMD's APU architecture will be felt heavily in the next couple years. Per core performance in AAA gaming has been dying slowly with bigger engines like Crytek 3 and Frostbite 3 that can scale across 8 threads with ease... I wager by the end of next year that 4-thread CPU's will be an absolute bare minimum for most AAA games to even run.  

 

And that's why I went with a Xeon. I hope the four extra virtual cores are enough though for a while.

[DIV1D3]

Actually it is. The repercussions of Games being built around AMD's APU architecture will be felt heavily in the next couple years. Per core performance in AAA gaming has been dying slowly with bigger engines like Crytek 3 and Frostbite 3 that can scale across 8 threads with ease... I wager by the end of next year that 4-thread CPU's will be an absolute bare minimum for most AAA games to even run.  

True, sucks to have a G3258 in that case...

Or really any Pentium/Celeron. 

And yes, I know the N2940 (and some others) has 4 cores/threads, but the performance would still be horrid. 

[KemoKa]

... This is a tech forum. I know it's a bit abrasive of me, and it's great that you, being new to the field of computers, understand it well, but most of us already know this to have been the case since the dawn of time. AMD and Intel have a history in microprocessor competition spanning 45 years.

[BuntzenB]

You know who I really hate.....people who answer their own questions

Lol I was gonna make that joke!!

[handymanshandle]

Simple, with out AMD everyone would suffer as Intel would raise their prices and lower their quality.

                              Intel be like c'mon AMD you gotta hurry up on getting up to date. 

I really hope Dr. Lisa Su can bring AMD back to life. Because I really want to go AMD but Intel X99 beats anything AMD has atm.

Skylake-E or Broadwell-E will be out by the time Zen is expected launch, AMD needs to get Zen right or we need to see a third brand come into play for desktop CPUs. Which might be a hard thing with mobile applications taking up most of the market. Maybe Lisa is the Doctor AMD has been needing or the doctor is in.