views on Apples 5k Monitor

[playdon]

Vote for what you think

[H4X3R]

This thread though . The screen is going to be nice ofc. Why would someone vote "no"?

[Hans Christian | Teri]

This thread though . The screen is going to be nice ofc. Why would someone vote "no"?

 

Because Apple. I mean some people are that stupid.

[ShadowCaptain]

Vote for what you think

 

Apple do not make a 5k monitor

 

They make an iMac with a 5k display

[Wano97]

This thread though . The screen is going to be nice ofc. Why would someone vote "no"?

Because of the obvious, stupid argument , Apple is 'Overpriced'

[Diederik_Gr]

The only use i could see for it is picture editing, because it's a really weak machine for video editing, especially at 4k. It's more like an average laptop with a 5k display hooked up to it, in terms of specifications.

Could you add more info to your post about the 5k mac, soms may not know.

[H4X3R]

Because of the obvious, stupid argument , Apple is 'Overpriced'

Yes, but that is not the question, it is simply if the screen is nice, which it is.

[Enderman]

I would prefer the easily scalable 3840x2160 resolution.

If I play 1080p content on it (of which most content is still 1080p) then pixels will be grouped by 4s, not by some strange averaged number that you get by dividing 5k by 1080p.

Also If I were to use a 5k display on windows the scaling would be even worse than 4k already is.

[MrSuperb]

The only use i could see for it is picture editing, because it's a really weak machine for video editing, especially at 4k. It's more like an average laptop with a 5k display hooked up to it, in terms of specifications.

because the average laptop has a 84Watt CPU that turbo boosts to 4.4GHz ...

Yes the GPU is on the weak side, but that is the only thing that screams laptop (performance).

So it is good for pretty much anything, that doesn't rely on lots of GPU horse power, which probably is over 90 percent of the tasks people perform on PCs nowadays.

[MeepLikesToBuildPc's]

The only use i could see for it is picture editing, because it's a really weak machine for video editing, especially at 4k. It's more like an average laptop with a 5k display hooked up to it, in terms of specifications.

Could you add more info to your post about the 5k mac, soms may not know.

so you say a 4690 is weak?

 okey, they could have done better on the r9 290/5 thing, but its hella powerful in processing power

[MrSuperb]

I would prefer the easily scalable 3840x2160 resolution.

If I play 1080p content on it (of which most content is still 1080p) then pixels will be grouped by 4s, not by some strange averaged number that you get by dividing 5k by 1080p.

that is NOT how (most) scalers work.

[Wano97]

so you say a 4690 is weak?

 okey, they could have done better on the r9 290/5 thing, but its hella powerful in processing power

The iMac doesn't have an i5

Lol I was wrong. 

[theodoro]

Because of the obvious, stupid argument , Apple is 'Overpriced'

Come on mate... Sometimes Apple products ARE overpriced. Rich people say the pay for the premium feel and i mostly agree, but that "premium" is overpriced, if that makes any sence

However, i believe the iMac 5K is a great product and it's price is great as well. 

[Thorium19]

I Like the display, I think it's very sharp, with good colour reproduction, excellent viewing angles and it makes a lot of sense from a productivity standpoint. Being able to edit 4K footage and have all the editing tools in one plane with it all at native resolutions is a great feature that is surely going to be very attractive to some people.

[Wano97]

Come on mate... Sometimes Apple products ARE overpriced. Rich people say the pay for the premium feel and i mostly agree, but that "premium" is overpriced, if that makes any sence

However, i believe the iMac 5K is a great product and it's price is great as well. 

They are a bit overpriced for spec heads. Some people rather pay for the ease of the OS. (Like I would, if I didn't game)

[Enderman]

that is NOT how (most) scalers work.

If you put a 1080p image on a 4k screen then one pixel of the image will be spread across 4 physical pixels on your screen making them the same colour in groups of 4.

If you stretch 1080p across a 5k screen many of the pixels will be averaged because you cannot divide 5k evenly with 1080p.

[MrSuperb]

If you put a 1080p image on a 4k screen then one pixel of the image will be spread across 4 physical pixels on your screen making them the same colour in groups of 4.

If you stretch 1080p across a 5k screen many of the pixels will be averaged because you cannot divide 5k evenly with 1080p.

in theory this would be nice, scalers generally don't work like that. they rather use interpolating and averaging techniques which leads to blurry pictures.

[theodoro]

They are a bit overpriced for spec heads. Some people rather pay for the ease of the OS. (Like I would, if I didn't game)

I am with you in this one, but you can use the MacOS at your custom PC as well. 

Would i do it? If i had the time, yes. Do i recommend it? Maybe

For the guys with the free time to do this, Macs are overpriced, but i can totally see why someone would buy a Mac. 

[Wano97]

I am with you in this one, but you can use the MacOS at your custom PC as well. 

Would i do it? If i had the time, yes. Do i recommend it? Maybe

For the guys with the free time to do this, Macs are overpriced, but i can totally see why someone would buy a Mac. 

I would probably make a hackintosh aswell, but other people who have absolutely no knowledge whatsoever, won't.

[Enderman]

in theory this would be nice, scalers generally don't work like that. they rather use interpolating and averaging techniques which leads to blurry pictures.

That's what happens when you can't evenly divide the screen resolution by the image resolution.

1080p on a 4k display will look exactly like 1080p on a 1080p screen because of the way that 1080 fits perfectly in 2160 and 1920 is a multiple of 3840

[MrSuperb]

That's what happens when you can't evenly divide the screen resolution by the image resolution.

1080p on a 4k display will look exactly like 1080p on a 1080p screen because of the way that 1080 fits perfectly in 2160 and 1920 is a multiple of 3840

no, it doesn't work like that ...

[Enderman]

no, it doesn't work like that ...

Yeah it does. Windows will stretch content across the screen using math. If you can't understand that UHD is perfectly 4x1080p then you need to go back to 1+1=2.

The reason linus likes 4k better than those 3k laptop displays or other 5k monitors is because 1080p scales perfectly on 4k.

 

What happens when you zoom in on an image? Each pixel of the image becomes enlarged so that a square of multiple pixels on your monitor are the same colour as that one pixel from the image. That is called scaling, and having perfect scaling means having full integer multiples.

 

 

the 5k display is 5120x2880 which scales perfectly with 1440p content, not 1080p.

5120/1920p=2.66666 <---not an integer

2880/1080=2.66666 <---not an integer

so as you can see upscaling a 1080p image to 5k will have pixel rounding.

 

on 4k it scales perfectly to 2x, so each pixel of the image will get a 2x2 square (2x2=4 btw) of pixels on the 4k screen.

[Mush Brain]

Seems stupid to me, much like 1080p phones.

[Yoinkerman]

Pushing the envelope is good.

[MrSuperb]

on 4k it scales perfectly to 2x, so each pixel of the image will get a 2x2 square (2x2=4 btw) of pixels on the 4k screen.

OMFG ... no it doesn't ... why? because neither windows, nor your gpu driver, nor your scaler inside your montior supports pixel doubling or 1 to 4 mapping or nearest neighbour interpolation.

IT SIMPLY DOES NOT SUPPORT IT. so it ALWAYS has to use some other sort of scaling algorithm, of which all use some sort of interpolation or averaging.