PC Sales down 1.7%

[thekeemo]

PC sales are still struggling but a new study shows that sales have dropped 1.7% in Q3 instead of the 4.1% that was expected

 

 

Lenovo now has 20 percent of the global PC market, ahead of Hewlett-Packard, Dell, Acer and Apple - as each company look to revitalize the struggling market. Companies are struggling to try to adapt to an increasingly mobile market - and while PC hardware continues to evolve - many consumers and businesses don't need to upgrade current PCs at the same rate they did just a few years ago.

 

"Reaching the 20% mark in global PC share is a great milestone for Lenovo - and we got there even faster than expected," said Yang Yuanqing, Lenovo CEO, in a statement. "While others have been looking for a game plan that works, we have been executing ours and the results speak for themselves. Not only have we reached another record high and solidified our PC leadership position for the 6th straight quarter, but we have diversified our business at the same time."

 

Source: http://www.tweaktown.com/news/40473/idc-notes-pc-shipments-dropped-1-7-in-q3-better-than-expected/index.html

[CowsGoRoar]

Because custom PC's are the best.

[Pugs501]

This was from 06'

Dell laptop explodes at Japanese conference

[thekeemo]

 

This was from 06'

Dell laptop explodes at Japanese conference

 

whats this have to do with anything

[Pugs501]

whats this have to do with anything

PC's are dangerous man, kids shouldn't even be able to touch them.

This mightn't not been the best time for this link wasn't it.

[vikeyev]

Because custom PC's are the best.

Genuinely curious as to what effect custom builders and replacement components have on the sales numbers. Usually when sales numbers hit news it is always companies like Dell, Lenovo etc who are providing their personal numbers. Maybe if NCIX etc would show us how their sales are going.

[AHaskin14]

Ya if thats not including the custom builds then its waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off. if they just counted the number of processors sold that would count.

[noc]

Genuinely curious as to what effect custom builders and replacement components have on the sales numbers. Usually when sales numbers hit news it is always companies like Dell, Lenovo etc who are providing their personal numbers. Maybe if NCIX etc would show us how their sales are going.

^^^ Was just going to bring this up. Components sold to actually build a computer aren't taken into account when there's another "PC sales are down again" article in the news.

 

"as each company look to revitalize the struggling market."

 

Yet, millions and millions of dollars still get pumped into R&D of new, faster,better components for Desktops, and new products like the GTX980 has hundereds of back orders at stores. Doesn't sound like it's struggeling that much.

[thekeemo]

^^^ Was just going to bring this up. Components sold to actually build a computer aren't taken into account when there's another "PC sales are down again" article in the news.

 

"as each company look to revitalize the struggling market."

 

Yet, millions and millions of dollars still get pumped into R&D of new, faster,better components for Desktops, and new products like the GTX980 has hundereds of back orders at stores. Doesn't sound like it's struggeling that much.

I have a feeling they included laptops because the mentioned macs

[noc]

I have a feeling they included laptops because the mentioned macs

Surely not. Wouldn't they mention if it's laptops as well? I think they may be refering to Desktops when mentioning PCs

[thekeemo]

Surely not. Wouldn't they mention if it's laptops as well? I think they may be refering to Desktops when mentioning PCs

then why is apple metioned they dont really sell desktops (if you can call them that)

[Guest]

Let's be real people, the amount of people who actually build custom computers is very small relative to all the computer sales in the world. 

 

We live in a geeky bubble on the internet, surrounded by people like us. In my grade I know of three people who have custom pc's. Out of around 400 kids. Everyone else has a laptop.  

[noc]

then why is apple metioned they dont really sell desktops (if you can call them that)

They will probably be including the iMac in those sales figures

[ijKs Snow]

So... pre-made Lenovo, Dell, Apple sales are down 1.7%

 

I would like to see a graph comparing drop in sales with pre-mades to the rise in % of custom builds.

 

It definitely seems like more people are custom building then from 13 years ago when I first started.

[Toddwjp]

Let's be real people, the amount of people who actually build custom computers is very small relative to all the computer sales in the world. 

 

We live in a geeky bubble on the internet, surrounded by people like us. In my grade I know of three people who have custom pc's. Out of around 400 kids. Everyone else has a laptop.  

 

oh god i an engineering student (so geeks everywhere) and there are 3 of us who even know the difference between a cpu, gpu and what GHz mean

[Guest]

oh god i an engineering student (so geeks everywhere) and there are 3 of us who even know the difference between a cpu, gpu and what GHz mean

 

Exactly! 

 

I wish average consumers were more educated. But if they really don't care that's their decision. 

 

I'll sit here saving money, playing superior games and being more efficient with work. 

[Techhog]

Surely not. Wouldn't they mention if it's laptops as well? I think they may be refering to Desktops when mentioning PCs

TIL laptops aren't PCs

 

You people are weird. 

[Guest]

Surely not. Wouldn't they mention if it's laptops as well? I think they may be refering to Desktops when mentioning PCs

 

Laptops are PCs. Just portable ones. 

 

If this article specified "Desktop PCs" then it would only be desktop PCs. 

 

Too bad it's a tweaktown article and therefore horrible. 

[mr moose]

here is some better information:

 

http://www.gartner.com/newsroom/id/2793921

 

Laptops are PC's,  Technically so are tablet computers but I believe gartner and IDC draw the line there for clearer understanding of market trending.

 

 

Custom builds have very little effect on the pc industry, here you can see discrete gpu sales dropped 17% over the last year, while  desktop only pc sales only dropped 1.7%, this suggests that there are actually less custom builders this year than last year and most GPU sales are going into prebuilt PC's.

 

What the statistics suggest is that the people are moving to laptops and tablets/phones instead of desktop computers.  Or the other possibility is that large IT consumers (corporate clients) still haven't upgraded. 

[noc]

Laptops are PCs. Just portable ones. 

 

If this article specified "Desktop PCs" then it would only be desktop PCs. 

 

Too bad it's a tweaktown article and therefore horrible. 

 

here is some better information:

 

http://www.gartner.com/newsroom/id/2793921

 

Laptops are PC's,  Technically so are tablet computers but I believe gartner and IDC draw the line there for clearer understanding of market trending.

 

Yes, I know Laptops technically are PC's (I'm sure the rest of us do as well). I was refering to the badly written article, as they seem to talk about "the PC" when talking about the "Desktop"

[geforceftw]

This again?

[patrickjp93]

then why is apple metioned they dont really sell desktops (if you can call them that)

iMac and Mac Pro are both desktop machines. Having a mobile processor does not make it less powerful. Clock for clock a 4980HQ is as strong under load as a 4770k at 4 GHz each.

[kuddlesworth9419]

These do not take into account people building their own PC's does it.

[mr moose]

These do not take into account people building their own PC's does it.

 

No they don't, it's very hard to find figures for the number of home made pc's,  I suggest domestic mobo sales would give at least a theoretical upper limit. while discrete GPU shipments can give us a theoretical upper limit for gaming oriented machines.  See my earlier post for the figures on that.

[That Norwegian Guy]

Funny, just a week ago I read that in Norway specifically tablet sales were stalling and plummeting, while PC sales were rising again, and quite sharply at that.

 

The ratio of self-built to pre-made is also going up here, but was quite a lot higher than the global average to begin with, Norway has always been very self-build oriented.

 

 

I suggest domestic mobo sales would give at least a theoretical upper limit.

 

I usually buy a backup motherboard at the end of a generation, whenever I've used a system for more than 2 years.