Intel; PC vs Mac

[Silver Knight]

Yeah, but the problem is that he is the IT person. He runs the school's server. I thought he should know some stuff about this

 

Also, your comments are golden.

I asked a different teacher, one that knows more about computers, and he totally blew off the other teacher

Even IT people are blinded by blatant favoritism/fanboyism!

[AnnoyedShelf]

Okay, so today my teacher said that you would at least need an i7, on a PC, to compare to an i5 on a Mac

 

I refuse to believe this is true.

Is their solid evidence against this? Like a cross platform benchmark on the same system running windows and mac osx?

 

 

Sorry for this mac rage, but my school is a complete apple fanboy

 

Thanks

From experience, Mac's use mobile i5's, so no. A PC i5 would rekt a Mac i5

[Guest]

Your teacher is a Dumdum tell him that

[PugoOfficial]

next time wear a PCMasterRace Tee-Shirt infront of him

[tugadude4]

Yeah, but the problem is that he is the IT person. He runs the school's server. I thought he should know some stuff about this

 

Also, your comments are golden.

I asked a different teacher, one that knows more about computers, and he totally blew off the other teacher

Yes just give him the finger and fly away

[Hans Christian | Teri]

a Mac cant compare to a PC, mostly because mac sucks and cant run 99.999999999999999% of the programs that exist, so he could use a imaginary i22 and it would still suck

 

Jesus christ how ignorant can a man be...

 

How much time have you spent with a Mac? Exactly what programs is it that you're referring to? It's your precious Rock Simulator 2014 and Barbie Horse Adventures isn't it?

[Rorgash]

3900 games on steam for Mac 14589 for PC at this moment, for starters then we have all the old games, simple short example i think, oh and most new games that comes out

[Hans Christian | Teri]

3900 games on steam for Mac 14589 for PC at this moment, for starters then we have all the old games, simple short example i think

 

So really your problem with Macs is not that they don't run programs, it's that they don't run games, right?

[Jack.EXE]

Your teacher is frothing, no spewing udder crap.

[Rorgash]

So really your problem with Macs is not that they don't run programs, it's that they don't run games, right?

do i really have to start listing things? damn if its not a big brand most dont work on Mac...

[Mooshi]

BOTH are personal computers. Topics like this should really say "OS X vs Windows" and not Mac vs PC. Standard PC can have OS X running on it (though that's a tad dodgy) and Macs can run Windows. The only justification for either are programs you're going to use and that's it. Anything else is artificial fluff and fanboyism.

 

Also, your teacher might have gotten their degree from somewhere with little to no standards if they are the IT guy. I have no reserve in labeling them a mindless Apple drone. An i7 Windows based PC to 'keep up' with an i5, my sides are in orbit. OS X doesn't magically make 4 threads render like 8.

[Hans Christian | Teri]

do i really have to start listing things? damn if its not a big brand most dont work on Mac...

 

You see the thing is you clearly have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. I have owned my MacBook Pro for the most of two years now and not once, NOT ONCE, have I been in a situation where the software I needed (or an as good if not better alternative) was unavailable to me. Now I have a desktop PC for my gaming needs and for prolonged work sessions, but as it turns out every title that I actually play (which I'll admit is getting more and more limited with age) is available for OS X and runs perfectly fine. I'm not trying to say that everything runs on OS X, clearly it doesn't, I'm saying that everything that matters runs on OS X. Meanwhile OS X as an OS (along with Linux) is so many times better at everything (other than software compatability) than the mountain of broken code that makes up Windows that it almost hurts to see so many blind haters and Windows fanboys.

[Rorgash]

You see the thing is you clearly have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. I have owned my MacBook Pro for the most of two years now and not once, NOT ONCE, have I been in a situation where the software I needed (or an as good if not better alternative) was unavailable to me. Now I have a desktop PC for my gaming needs and for prolonged work sessions, but as it turns out every title that I actually play (which I'll admit is getting more and more limited with age) is available for OS X and runs perfectly fine. I'm not trying to say that everything runs on OS X, clearly it doesn't, I'm saying that everything that matters runs on OS X. Meanwhile OS X as an OS (along with Linux) is so many times better at everything (other than software compatability) than the mountain of broken code that makes up Windows that it almost hurts to see so many blind haters and Windows fanboys.

im no windows fan boy, if steam OS had wide support for all the things i use i would switch so fast, but until then, there are too many things i use that does not have mac versions

[Hans Christian | Teri]

im no windows fan boy, if steam OS had wide support for all the things i use i would switch so fast, but until then, there are too many things i use that does not have mac versions

 

Please for the sake of enlightening me do make a list.

[Mooshi]

You see the thing is you clearly have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. I have owned my MacBook Pro for the most of two years now and not once, NOT ONCE, have I been in a situation where the software I needed (or an as good if not better alternative) was unavailable to me. Now I have a desktop PC for my gaming needs and for prolonged work sessions, but as it turns out every title that I actually play (which I'll admit is getting more and more limited with age) is available for OS X and runs perfectly fine. I'm not trying to say that everything runs on OS X, clearly it doesn't, I'm saying that everything that matters runs on OS X. Meanwhile OS X as an OS (along with Linux) is so many times better at everything (other than software compatability) than the mountain of broken code that makes up Windows that it almost hurts to see so many blind haters and Windows fanboys.

 

Artists who use a Mac cry because they can't run Paint Tool SAI (a friend of my GF actually complains about this who has an iMac), a highly popular Japanese paint program that's Windows only. Even under WINE, the program lacks pen pressure which makes it useless. While Apple has no software is over exaggerated, there are cases where a single program can make OS X a no go. Everyone has different needs and I see @Rorgash 's point. Mainstream software like stuff from Adobe will be multiplatform for Windows and OS X alike. But if a program is niche, Apple is not going to have it. Not every complaint of Apple lacking something is about video games.  There do exist moments where there is superior software that is Windows only, that's just the luck of the draw. (Photoshop is TERRIBLE for 2D artwork, the lines are so sloppy compared to SAI)

[Hans Christian | Teri]

Artists who use a Mac cry because they can't run Paint Tool SAI (a friend of my GF actually complains about this who has an iMac), a highly popular Japanese paint program that's Windows only. Even under WINE, the program lacks pen pressure which makes it useless. While Apple has no software is over exaggerated, there are cases where a single program can make OS X a no go. Everyone has different needs and I see @Rorgash 's point. Mainstream software like stuff from Adobe will be multiplatform for Windows and OS X alike. But if a program is niche, Apple is not going to have it. Not every complaint of Apple lacking something is about video games.  There do exist moments where there is superior software that is Windows only, that's just the luck of the draw. (Photoshop is TERRIBLE for 2D artwork, the lines are so sloppy compared to SAI)

 

Fair point. I'm not that kind of artist although the friends I have in that business either run Photoshop (which may or may not be bad) or ArtRage (which may or may not also be bad, as I said I have no idea). I personally only do photography and videography so obviously I'm well covered with Adobe CC.

[mr moose]

I would say your teach spends too much time messing about with the OS or looking at the sticker on the back of his computer rather than working.  Because in reality their isn't a great deal of difference between how well programs run on a mac and how programs run on windows for majority of today's work environments.

[bronsonp4htdude123455]

Okay, so today my teacher said that you would at least need an i7, on a PC, to compare to an i5 on a Mac

 

I refuse to believe this is true.

Is their solid evidence against this? Like a cross platform benchmark on the same system running windows and mac osx?

 

 

Sorry for this mac rage, but my school is a complete apple fanboy

 

Thanks

spec is spec i5 is an i5 if its in a mac pc or running linux 8 gigs is 8 gigs pc mac or linux doesnt matter mac isnt going to be better than custom built or dell if they have matching specs it doesnt matter lol. but one os may be less of a resource hog but still does not matter lol. some people think mac is better but most computers have the same guts good luck

[Mooshi]

Fair point. I'm not that kind of artist although the friends I have in that business either run Photoshop (which may or may not be bad) or ArtRage (which may or may not also be bad, as I said I have no idea). I personally only do photography and videography so obviously I'm well covered with Adobe CC.

 

lol ye

 

I'm moderate when it comes to OS X vs Windows. Light jabs aside, I think most LTT members agree that it's simple. Use what suits your needs.

[Trik'Stari]

Okay, so today my teacher said that you would at least need an i7, on a PC, to compare to an i5 on a Mac

 

I refuse to believe this is true.

Is their solid evidence against this? Like a cross platform benchmark on the same system running windows and mac osx?

 

 

Sorry for this mac rage, but my school is a complete apple fanboy

 

Thanks

Your teacher is an idiot, plain and simple.

 

lol ye

 

I'm moderate when it comes to OS X vs Windows. Light jabs aside, I think most LTT members agree that it's simple. Use what suits your needs.

My natural inclination to flame apple aside, I can agree to this.

[Nuluvius]

I find these helpful when attempting to summarize this argument:

 

 

[Rubenis]

Ohh guys I get it. The teacher is saying that Apple OS gives the i5 cpu hyper-threading more cache using Apple magic.

Apple OS has nothing to do with hyper-threading. i5 desktop quad cores CPUs does not have it, i5 on laptops and Macbooks have it, but they are dual core CPUs + hyper-threading.

 

Apple has no magic.

 

P.S. Adding no iMushrooms to "do net let your teacher use" list.

[Botasky]

Typical mac fanboy BS statement