Jump to content

does AMD CPU really perform that bad?

Natherul

install windows 8 from USB to SSD takes like 8 minutes nowadays, i'm fine with it as well ;)

Mine takes exactly 4 minutes :D

| CPU: i7 3770k | MOTHERBOARD: MSI Z77A-G45 Gaming | GPU: GTX 770 | RAM: 16GB G.Skill Trident X | PSU: XFX PRO 1050w | STORAGE: SSD 120GB PQI +  6TB HDD | COOLER: Thermaltake: Water 2.0 | CASE: Cooler Master: HAF 912 Plus |

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

All games(unless I'm missing a shitty console port) can use full power of 1-2 core while not as many games can use full power of 8 cores.

That's why AMD's "moar core iz bettah" approach fail to work sometimes.

I installed windows 8.1 onto a samsung 840 evo.

Don't recall how many minutes; but I went to the bathroom when it started, and when I got back it was done.

Usually I had to sleep an hour or two before it's done. SSD is important piece of hardware.

Anyone who has a sister hates the fact that his sister isn't Kasugano Sora.
Anyone who does not have a sister hates the fact that Kasugano Sora isn't his sister.
I'm not insulting anyone; I'm just being condescending. There is a difference, you see...

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

From a 9590 owner, don't get it if you're just gaming and stay with Intel. I don't game much but do a lot of CAD and 3d rendering and to gain any significant performance increase I would have to jump to the LGA2011 or 2011-E CPU.

 

 

Your CPU is great for gaming, no need to go to 220w TDP FX CPU, that perform worse, gives more heat and asks for really good cooling.

As far as AMD puts out more heat, my 9590 has never gone past 55c on an h100. I have seen i7's in the high 40s to the high 60s with the h100, so no it doesn't produce more heat than Intel (could be different on air cooler though)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

As far as AMD puts out more heat, my 9590 has never gone past 55c on an h100. I have seen i7's in the high 40s to the high 60s with the h100, so no it doesn't produce more heat than Intel (could be different on air cooler though)

the architecture is different and the intel cpu does get hotter inside the core themselves but the global heat output from the cpu is much less because it uses a lot less watts..it's physics.

AMD cpu's are much bigger and more efficient at dissipating the heat that's why they get lower core temps.

| CPU: Core i7-8700K @ 4.89ghz - 1.21v  Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING  CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i V2 |
| GPU: MSI RTX 3080Ti Ventus 3X OC  RAM: 32GB T-Force Delta RGB 3066mhz |
| Displays: Acer Predator XB270HU 1440p Gsync 144hz IPS Gaming monitor | Oculus Quest 2 VR

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

intel beat amd in single core performance like amd did to intel in 2005, but amd are still great of anything that uses more than 1 core (in which case anything over a pentium-k is a waste of money and stupid), morons and fanboys like to quote how bad the 9590 is for its price which it is, but they think all amd's are like that, these same people complain about how expensive a k6000 is....
they dont get that its there for bragging rights and not meant to be taken seriously, i guess they'd also complain that a veyrons too fast and the costs of fuel and tires are stupid.

amd users get 6300's and 8320, because for the price they cant be beaten in overall performance (in cpu tasks obviously), in single threaded gaming anything over a pentium k is stupid and in well made games its the graphics card that makes the difference.

for a given price usually you can go with a cheaper amd cpu and buy a better graphics card for gaming, like getting an 8320/r9-290 instead of a 4670k/280x, it does depend on the game and budget though. the aforementioned amd cpus are the only cpu's amd make that id reccommend and 7850k for apu's if you need those extra HSA enabled abilities once programmers learn to use the additional power.

intels power efficiency might be better in situations where you have one of those laptop thingy's we had years ago. so if you dont have a phone and want to carry a laptop yeah go intel, amd has some newer kabini stuff but i havent cared to search about laptops in years.

Falcon: Corsair 750D 8320at4.6ghz 1.3v | 4GB MSI Gaming R9-290 @1000/1250 | 2x8GB 2400mhz Kingston HyperX Beast | Asus ROG Crosshair V Formula | Antec H620 | Corsair RM750w | Crucial M500 240GB, Toshiba 2TB, DarkThemeMasterRace, my G3258 has an upgrade path, my fx8320 doesn't need one...total cost £840=cpu£105, board£65, ram£105, Cooler £20, GPU£200, PSU£88, SSD£75, HDD£57, case£125.

 CASE:-NZXT S340 Black, CPU:-FX8120 @4.2Ghz, COOLER:-CM Hyper 212 EVO, BOARD:-MSI 970 Gaming, RAM:-2x4gb 2400mhz Corsair Vengeance Pro, GPU: SLI EVGA GTX480's @700/1000, PSU:-Corsair CX600m, HDD:-WD green 160GB+2TB toshiba
CASE:-(probably) Cooltek U1, CPU:-G3258 @4.5ghx, COOLER:-stock(soon "MSI Dragon" AiO likely), BOARD:-MSI z87i ITX Gaming, RAM:-1x4gb 1333mhz Patriot, GPU: Asus DCU2 r9-270 OC@1000/1500mem, PSU:-Sweex 350w.., HDD:-WD Caviar Blue 640GB
CASE:-TBD, CPU:-Core2Quad QX9650 @4Ghz, COOLER:-OCZ 92mm tower thing, BOARD:-MSI p43-c51, RAM:-4x1GB 800mhz Corsair XMS2, GPU: Zotac GTX460se @800/1000, PSU:-OCZ600sxs, HDD:-WD green 160GBBlueJean-A
 CASE:-Black/Blue Sharkoon T9, CPU:-Phenom2 x4 B55 @3.6Ghz/1.4v, COOLER:-FX8320 Stock HSF, BOARD:-M5A78L-M/USB3, RAM:-4GB 1333mhz Kingston low profile at 1600mhz, GPU:-EVGA GTX285, PSU:-Antec TP550w modu, STORAGE:-240gb  M500+2TB Toshiba
CASE:-icute zl02-3g-bb, CPU:-Phenom2 X6 1055t @3.5Ghz, COOLER:-Stock, BOARD:-Asrock m3a UCC, RAM:2x2GB 1333mhz Zeppelin (thats yellow!), GPU: XFX 1GB HD6870xxx, PSU:-some 450 POS, HDD:-WD Scorpio blue 120GB
CASE:-Packard Bell iMedia X2424, Custom black/red Aerocool Xpredator fulltower, CPU's:-E5200, C2D [email protected]<script cf-hash='f9e31' type="text/javascript"> /* */</script>(so e8500), COOLER:-Scythe Big shuriken2 Rev B, BFG gtx260 sp216 OC, RAM:-tons..
Gigabyte GTX460, Gigabyte gt430,
GPU's:-GT210 1GB,  asus hd6670 1GB gddr5, XFX XXX 9600gt 512mb Alpha dog edition, few q6600's
PICTURES CASE:-CIT mars black+red, CPU:-Athlon K6 650mhz slot A, COOLER:-Stock, BOARD:-QDI Kinetiz 7a, RAM:-256+256+256MB 133mhz SDram, GPU:-inno3d geforce4 mx440 64mb, PSU:-E-Zcool 450w, STORAGE:-2x WD 40gb "black" drives,
CASE:-silver/red raidmax cobra, CPU:-Athlon64 4000+, COOLER:-BIG stock one, BOARD:-MSI something*, RAM:-(matched pair)2x1GB 400mhz ECC transcend, GPU:-ati 9800se@375core/325mem, PSU:-pfft, HDD:-2x maxtor 80gb,
PICTURES CASE:-silver/red raidmax cobra (another), CPU:-Pentium4 2.8ghz prescott, COOLER:-Artic Coolering Freezer4, BOARD:-DFI lanparty infinity 865 R2, RAM:-(matched pair)2x1GB 400mhz kingston, GPU:-ati 9550@375core/325mem, PSU:-pfft, HDD:-another 2x WD 80gb,
CASE:-ML110 G4, CPU:-xeon 4030, COOLER:-stock leaf blower, BOARD:-stock raid 771 board, RAM:-2x2GB 666mhz kingston ECC ddr2, GPU:-9400GT 1GB, PSU:-stock delta, RAID:-JMicron JMB363 card+onboard raid controller, HDD:-320gb hitachi OS, 2xMaxtor 160gb raid1, 500gb samsungSP, 160gb WD, LAPTOP:-Dell n5030, CPU:-replaced s*** cel900 with awesome C2D E8100, RAM:-2x2GB 1333mhz ddr3, HDD:-320gb, PHONE's:-LG optimus 3D (p920) on 2.3.5@300-600mhz de-clock (batteryFTW)
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

AMD has higher GHZ so they're actually better than intel. Even has moar cores too.

Old shit no one cares about but me.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

AMD has higher GHZ so they're actually better than intel. Even has moar cores too.

Either best sarcasm or biggest stupidity.

Intel i7 2600 @ 4.2 Ghz | MSI Z77-GD55 | Crucial 16 GB DDR3 RAM 1600Mhz | Intel 330 SSD 180Gb | Western Digital Black 1Tb | Western Digital Green 2Tb | Gigabyte GTX 650 Ti | OCZ ModXStream Pro 500W | Thermaltake Commander MS-I case | OS X Yosemite | Dell Vostro 3550 Windows 10

Intel Xeon 1230 V2 | Gigabyte GA-H61M-S | Kingston 4Gb RAM 1333Mhz | Seagate 1TB  | Fractial Design Arc mini | Windows 10

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Either best sarcasm or biggest stupidity.

 

Best sarcasm

Old shit no one cares about but me.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

mmm so much hate, love it, hahaha  i'll take my 9590 allll day over intel. Intels are soooo slow

cool story bro

CPU: i7 2600 @ 4.2GHz  COOLING: NZXT Kraken X31 RAM: 4x2GB Corsair XMS3 @ 1600MHz MOBO: Gigabyte Z68-UD3-XP GPU: XFX R9 280X Double Dissipation SSD #1: 120GB OCZ Vertex 2  SSD #2: 240GB Corsair Force 3 HDD #1: 1TB Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM PSU: Silverstone Strider Plus 600W CASE: NZXT H230
CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 @ 2.83GHz COOLING: Cooler Master Eclipse RAM: 4x1GB Corsair XMS2 @ 800MHz MOBO: XFX nForce 780i 3-Way SLi GPU: 2x ASUS GTX 560 DirectCU in SLi HDD #1: 1TB Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM PSU: TBA CASE: Antec 300
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

In short, no. AMD doesn't perform badly and it isn't "just crap". I think I've seen this lie enough times by now, AMD actually offers great performance for the price. It is true that Intel CPUs perform better in single threaded performance, which would include gaming, but that doesn't mean AMD CPUs are bad, they just aren't the best. The AM3+ platform is pretty old now and hasn't seen an architechture update in years, but they still perform very well. AMD FX CPUs really pull ahead in rendering and encoding tasks, having more cores they tend to outperform Intel CPUs here and at a lower cost.

In summary, AMD CPUs don't perform badly. Please stop with the fanboyism.

"PSU brands are meaningless, look up the OEM."

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Best sarcasm

Best comment today then... :D

Intel i7 2600 @ 4.2 Ghz | MSI Z77-GD55 | Crucial 16 GB DDR3 RAM 1600Mhz | Intel 330 SSD 180Gb | Western Digital Black 1Tb | Western Digital Green 2Tb | Gigabyte GTX 650 Ti | OCZ ModXStream Pro 500W | Thermaltake Commander MS-I case | OS X Yosemite | Dell Vostro 3550 Windows 10

Intel Xeon 1230 V2 | Gigabyte GA-H61M-S | Kingston 4Gb RAM 1333Mhz | Seagate 1TB  | Fractial Design Arc mini | Windows 10

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Get a 9370

CPU: AMD FX-8120 | CPU Cooler: Thermaltake Contac 30 | Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3 | Memory: Kingston 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 | Storage: WD 1TB | GPU: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7870 | Case: Thermaltake Chaser MK-I | PSU: Thermaltake Black Widow 850W

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

In short, no. AMD doesn't perform badly and it isn't "just crap". I think I've seen this lie enough times by now, AMD actually offers great performance for the price. It is true that Intel CPUs perform better in single threaded performance, which would include gaming, but that doesn't mean AMD CPUs are bad, they just aren't the best. The AM3+ platform is pretty old now and hasn't seen an architechture update in years, but they still perform very well. AMD FX CPUs really pull ahead in rendering and encoding tasks, having more cores they tend to outperform Intel CPUs here and at a lower cost.

In summary, AMD CPUs don't perform badly. Please stop with the fanboyism.

 This. 

Intel may dominate AMD in most benchmarks but when it's comes to gaming both platforms will get 60+ FPS if your GPU can manage. And honestly AMD is great for budgets when you want the most bang for your buck. And maybe someone can tell me if this but has anyone ever noticed a difference in real world scenarios usage from switching from an FX to an Intel?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

In essence my question comes from the fact that I need to change MB and CPU soon since my MB has for a long time been on the way of daying...

 

atm I have a Intel i7 3770k OCed to 4,4 Ghz

 

And since I had enough quite recently on NVIDIA and switched to AMD R9 290x and Im loving it I was compemplating on getting a full AMD rig then when I made the change on CPU.

 

The problem is that looking at numbers from different bechmarks the AMD processors are not doing that well (I am looking at the AMD FX-9590 and I primarily play MMOs, Wildstar in particular).

 

So my question is will AMD CPUs perform that bad compared to Intels options and what Intel models would you then (if) recommend in about the same price class or below the FX-9590?

 

Keeping in mind that I mostly play games and MMOs are a big favorite time-sink for me (so if an Intel I would guess a i5).

 

Cheers

 
Intel Core i7 3770K  vs AMD FX 8320 (i like the new 95w 8320E and 8370E)  :lol:
 
but yea  :blush: numbers looks blue (i will still grab the FX lol)
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

But there's nothing wrong with your 3770k it's like + - 5% less performance than a 4770k

 

Do not get rid of it!

The most common result of insufficient wattage is a paperweight that looks like a PC

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

... And maybe someone can tell me if this but has anyone ever noticed a difference in real world scenarios usage from switching from an FX to an Intel?

i did, but i run an high end overclocked gpu...for anything mid range or low end (gtx 760, r9 280...) theres not much difference in MOST games...

| CPU: Core i7-8700K @ 4.89ghz - 1.21v  Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING  CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i V2 |
| GPU: MSI RTX 3080Ti Ventus 3X OC  RAM: 32GB T-Force Delta RGB 3066mhz |
| Displays: Acer Predator XB270HU 1440p Gsync 144hz IPS Gaming monitor | Oculus Quest 2 VR

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

×