R9 285X spotted in-store

[ysoignorant]

While I was snooping for a new graphics card, I found me a R9 285X sitting in Canada Computers' website. 

 

Link 

 

 

Manufacturer: Club 3D

Memory: 2GB / 5500MHz

Core clock: 850MHz / 945MHz (boost)

Bus: 372bit 

Price: $319.00 (CDN)

 

 

 

What do you guys think of it? 

[patrickjp93]

372-bit bus for a 2GB card? WTF?! It's a little pricey for the performance that can promise faithfully. $270 USD would be more reasonable, maybe $280-290 due to Mantle.

[elan2468]

372-bit bus for a 2GB card? WTF?! It's a little pricey for the performance that can promise faithfully. $270 USD would be more reasonable, maybe $280-290 due to Mantle.

it is in canadian dollars which i about 280-290

[Aniallation]

Damn

[Enderman]

372 makes no sense. It is either 192, 256, 384, or 512 bit.

Plus 2GB of vram should have a 256bit bus. 3GB of vram gets a 384 bit bus.

[felixthemaster1]

Is it between the 280 and 280x?

[patrickjp93]

it is in canadian dollars which i about 280-290

$293, which is on the high end of what this is seriously worth.

[ysoignorant]

372 makes no sense. It is either 192, 256, 384, or 512 bit.

Plus 2GB of vram should have a 256bit bus. 3GB of vram gets a 384 bit bus.

 

The bus makes no sense, but the 2GB seems to fit the rumours. 

[AlwaysFSX]

372-bit bus for a 2GB card? WTF?! It's a little pricey for the performance that can promise faithfully. $270 USD would be more reasonable, maybe $280-290 due to Mantle.

Low memory speed?

[flibberdipper]

372 makes no sense. It is either 192, 256, 384, or 512 bit.

Plus 2GB of vram should have a 256bit bus. 3GB of vram gets a 384 bit bus.

I'm on board with this. Or in the GeForce 210's case, 64-bit (I think).

[D2ultima]

372 makes no sense. It is either 192, 256, 384, or 512 bit.

Plus 2GB of vram should have a 256bit bus. 3GB of vram gets a 384 bit bus.

That's not how vRAM works.

 

That being said, 372-bit mem bus is a dead giveaway that that thing ain't right. His bus width list is correct; 128, 192, 256, 384 or 512 are the common lists these days. Also, there's no way it'd be a 2GB card if the R9 280 is a 3GB minimum. Something be fishy.

[Briggsy]

pcper made comments on this in a podcast. it is 256bus with 2gb ram, but the architecture allows for a huge boost in efficiency, while performing at about 280x speeds. they also said it would be around 200 bucks msrp, so this link for $319 is balony, or a placeholder.

[kev507]

That's not how vRAM works.

 

That being said, 372-bit mem bus is a dead giveaway that that thing ain't right. His bus width list is correct; 128, 192, 256, 384 or 512 are the common lists these days. Also, there's no way it'd be a 2GB card if the R9 280 is a 3GB minimum. Something be fishy.

yeah apparently the new "tonga" refresh will have 2gb cards at the high end, so the "refresh" of the 280 and 280x will only be 2gb 256bit bus, possibly with less stream processors, but better performance overall due to the architecture refresh

[Deletive]

http://videocardz.com/51157/amd-radeon-r9-285-tonga-gpu-pictured

interesting to see consider this is suppose to be a mobile gpu chip to compete with the 880m
 

I don't understand the bus though

[Deletive]

• 4GB GDDR5 memory
• 1792 stream processors (28 compute units)
• <150W maximum power consumption
• 256-bit memory interface

  150w looks promising. 1792 stream processors should be interesting

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[Doughnutnator]

If it's 150w then i'm sold. I hope this card arrives soon to Mexico, I need a replacement for my 760, it would be the 285 or the 280, but the 280 consumes a lot more power 

[jmaster299]

Is it between the 280 and 280x?

The rumors I've seen say it used a modified chip from a 270X. Supposed to offer performance equal to a 280, or slightly better, but for slightly less money and power consumption.

[D2ultima]

yeah apparently the new "tonga" refresh will have 2gb cards at the high end, so the "refresh" of the 280 and 280x will only be 2gb 256bit bus, possibly with less stream processors, but better performance overall due to the architecture refresh

 

Not gonna argue that an architecture refresh could bring great things about, but cycling backwards in memory is not a good idea. 256-bit GDDR5 with a SLOWER clock speed? AND less memory? In a higher refresh? It's not right. No matter how you look at it, that's moving backwards. Even if the raw processing power is stronger, I don't get why they'd so severely limit the memory.

 

 

http://videocardz.com/51157/amd-radeon-r9-285-tonga-gpu-pictured

interesting to see consider this is suppose to be a mobile gpu chip to compete with the 880m

 

I don't understand the bus though

 

If that's a mobile chip with that kind of memory it's already lost the battle with the 880M, which can easily be clocked to GTX 680 (or 770 if you're lucky with the memory) speeds, which touts 8GB GDDR5 vRAM. AMD would be exceedingly stupid to push that as a mobile card.

 

 

 

• 4GB GDDR5 memory
• 1792 stream processors (28 compute units)
• <150W maximum power consumption
• 256-bit memory interface

  150w looks promising. 1792 stream processors should be interesting

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This here looks like a card that'd be a next-generation midrange card. Watch Dogs, Wolfenstein, Titanfall, CoD: Ghosts etc are easily proving that more vRAM is becoming necessary (mainly due to bad optimization on developers' part), so a slower memory interface and some more vRAM and architecture improvements while maintaining the low power/price point makes sense... but not as any kind of high end card. This should be something like a replacement for their 7790, not even at 7870 level. If this is what AMD are doing, then that's awesome, and they'll have a serious leg up on the competition when they bring out their MUCH more powerful bad boys. If this is what the 7870 replacement is gonna be, I don't have too much faith in their actual 7950/7970 replacements.

[hms1193]

Its a listing of the Radeon R9 285, not a R9 285X (look closely at the box). it says 2 GB , 256-Bit on the packaging. The specifications listed on the site are bogus and a attempt to pre-list the card.

[Deletive]

If it's 150w then i'm sold. I hope this card arrives soon to Mexico, I need a replacement for my 760, it would be the 285 or the 280, but the 280 consumes a lot more power 

150w's was on AMD's website

 

The rumors I've seen say it used a modified chip from a 270X. Supposed to offer performance equal to a 280, or slightly better, but for slightly less money and power consumption.

Should be better than a 280 but slower than a 280x considering it's gcn 2.0

 

 

Its a listing of the Radeon R9 285, not a R9 285X (look closely at the box). it says 2 GB , 256-Bit on the packaging. The specifications listed on the site are bogus and a attempt to pre-list the card.

There is still 4CU disabled on the 285 so I see a 285x in the future to replace the 280x.

[mcmad358]

i thought it was supposed to be between the 280x - 290? 

[7850OC]

While I was snooping for a new graphics card, I found me a R9 285X sitting in Canada Computers' website. 

 

Link 

 

 

Manufacturer: Club 3D

Memory: 2GB / 5500MHz

Core clock: 850MHz / 945MHz (boost)

Bus: 372bit 

Price: $319.00 (CDN)

 

 

 

What do you guys think of it? 

i like it :rolleyes: (must be 256 bits or 384 bits, but is great anyway)

 

welcome to the forum new friend

[IrshaadH]

To me, there really is no reason to get this over an r9 280, especially since you can get one for less than 200 now

[hms1193]

150w's was on AMD's website

 

Should be better than a 280 but slower than a 280x considering it's gcn 2.0

 

 

There is still 4CU disabled on the 285 so I see a 285x in the future to replace the 280x.

I was not saying that a full enabled Tonga variant didn't exist. It does but those specifications listed on the site are not indicative of the new product. While not confirmed, every source agrees that Tonga has 32 CUs in the die which means that 28 CU "R9 285" is the Pro variant while the 32 CU die goes in the presumably upcoming "R9 285X".

Specifications rumored for the full die are 2048 SPs, 128 TMUs, 32 ROPs, a 3 GB GDDR5 memory across a 384-bit bus and a larger L2 cache. XDMA and audio DSPs are also in place but like I mentioned, these are rumored specifications so don't quote them as someone said these from an official source.

[Deletive]

I was not saying that a full enabled Tonga variant didn't exist. It does but those specifications listed on the site are not indicative of the new product. While not confirmed, every source agrees that Tonga has 32 CUs in the die which means that 28 CU "R9 285" is the Pro variant while the 32 CU die goes in the presumably upcoming "R9 285X".

Specifications rumored for the full die are 2048 SPs, 128 TMUs, 32 ROPs, a 3 GB GDDR5 memory across a 384-bit bus and a larger L2 cache. XDMA and audio DSPs are also in place but like I mentioned, these are rumored specifications so don't quote them as someone said these from an official source.

I went to siggraph 2014. they talked about all this stuff.