Looks like Twitch butchered Slick's archive with audio copyright mute.

[Damikiller37]

So I realised that Slick was streaming earlier today so I went to Twitch to see if I could just see what he was up to and I saw this...

 

This is basically 90% of the audio during the stream muted. I'm seriously starting to hate Twitch for all of this BS. I know they have the right to do it but even then holy crap it basically rendered the archive unwatchable.

What do you guys think about this? 

[Jobbe03]

I mean for Twitch right now, it's; start enforcing the rules or get sued.

 

It is what it is, I'm sure Slick will upload a higlights video at some point. 

[Nod]

This is basically 90% of the audio during the stream muted. I'm seriously starting to hate Twitch for all of this BS. I know they have the right to do it but even then holy crap it basically rendered the archive unwatchable.

What do you guys think about this? 

 

I noticed the same thing in the archived streams of a couple of streamers that I follow. Yes it's annoying but I don't think that Twitch have a choice, they're not the ones to blame for that.

[Askew]

Watching Twitch archives is dead unless you rip them, if you rip them they don't downoad muted.

[Damikiller37]

I mean for Twitch right now, it's; start enforcing the rules or get sued.

 

It is what it is, I'm sure Slick will upload a higlights video at some point. 

I guess you are right but it seems to me that they are seriously overdoing. If they could figure a way where the streamer would play a song on a stream and for the system to bring up a notice saying what song it is and where you can legaly obtain it instead of muting that audio off I can see it being a better way to advertise the music and for everyone to benefit from it.

[Jobbe03]

I guess you are right but it seems to me that they are seriously overdoing. If they could figure a way where the streamer would play a song on a stream and for the system to bring up a notice saying what song it is and where you can legaly obtain it instead of muting that audio off I can see it being a better way to advertise the music and for everyone to benefit from it.

That's unfortunately not how large corporations work. 

 

If anything, people should appreciate the fact that they are only muting the Vods and not touching the live streams. 

[wjdobie]

The funny thing is that even Twitch's own broadcasts have been muted:

This whole thing sucks.

 

EDIT: And why the heck is it 30 minutes, since when was the average length of a song 30 minutes?
 

Edited August 11, 2014 by wjdobie

[Arty]

the raa  can go suck dicks...and let the public be.....

[Stefan Becker]

I'm happy with him trolling Twitch on purpose. I even got "I remember - deadmau5" played, which pretty much made my morning

[Misanthrope]

Watching Twitch archives is dead unless you rip them, if you rip them they don't downoad muted.

Shh! Don't mention that in a public forum! Otherwise they'll patch it right away!

[Admiaczking]

Fucking Google at it again, they ruined YouTube and now it's time to ruin Twitch

[Wauthar]

Luke streams? o_O

luke_lafr on Twitch if I am not mistaken.

OT: all of these recent copyright mass claims are bullsh it and most people think so. Wasn't Twitch saying to rewind the latest update?

[Prettyfinej]

Fucking Google at it again, they ruined YouTube and now it's time to ruin Twitch

 

They are not yet owned by google, and it's not even the same system that youtube uses. 

 

This was eventually going to happen whether or not they were bought out. The fault lies with the music industry. 

[Th3 Mans1ay3r]

I don't get it, why is Twitch going full retard?

[SSOB]

I don't get it, why is Twitch going full retard?

Because of this little company called:

[Th3 Mans1ay3r]

Because of this little company called:

So extra special full retard with a dash of autism over copy right?

[TheSLSAMG]

I wanted to watch it too.

 

Fuck you Google, I recognize the issues with copyright, but at that, just take the damn advertising prerolls and postrolls off the offending videos, don't just block out a majority of the damn stream.

[SSOB]

I wanted to watch it too.

 

Fuck you Google, I recognize the issues with copyright, but at that, just take the damn advertising prerolls and postrolls off the offending videos, don't just block out a majority of the damn stream.

Honestly at this point in time, google is so powerfull i doubt we can do anything about it. Just accept it lol. Google is the new Apple, but even worse!

[TheSLSAMG]

Honestly at this point in time, google is so powerfull i doubt we can do anything about it. Just accept it lol. Google is the new Apple, but even worse!

Yeah, pretty much. Yet people deep in the tech community will still s their d if you catch me.

[SSOB]

Yeah, pretty much. Yet people deep in the tech community will still s their d if you catch me.

Holy shit, i didn't even notice you were SLS. damn that new profile pic tho. I MISS JEREMY!

[Colonel_Gerdauf]

Twitch, much like Google, has their hands tied with the music industries. If the companies do not comply with their highly stringent demands, then they will be sued to oblivion.

 

It is still a stupid outcome, but you people keep pointing your fingers at the wrong direction. Let's see what happens afterwards.

[Argent]

Pretty sure Luke said he knew they were going to mute his VODs but he didn't really care in the case of those particular streams.  

 

I think I saw someone ask why it mutes entire swaths of videos.  I believe the reason is because the service Twitch employs scans the videos for the music in blocks, and when it discovers something it thinks is copyrighted it mutes a 30 minute block and the skips ahead to the end of that to begin scanning again. It repeats scanning in these process until the end of the video. 

 

Basically it is a time saving technique.  Twitch has a massive amount of content to look through and they figure it's easier to switch the burden to the streamers if they catch something.  It's not an elegant solution; I don't even think it is a particularly good solution but it is what service chose to employ.

[Trik'Stari]

Here's an Idea, make the EULA for twitch state "Content creator assumes all legal liability involving copyrighted materials" and then let them do what they want? So that basically when "artists" bitch about their music being played, twitch can say "sorry, but we can't control what they do, talk to them about it"

 

I'm sure it already says that to begin with, so why are they even fucking doing this?

[Colonel_Gerdauf]

Here's an Idea, make the EULA for twitch state "Content creator assumes all legal liability involving copyrighted materials" and then let them do what they want? So that basically when "artists" bitch about their music being played, twitch can say "sorry, but we can't control what they do, talk to them about it"

 

I'm sure it already says that to begin with, so why are they even fucking doing this?

 

The problem with this concept is the amount of people who deliberately ignore the rules, even with the penalties in place. When there are so many people releasing copyrighted materials at one time, the copyright holders will no longer be able to look at each and every case. The only thing that can be practically done is look at the source medium and deal with the overall problem, regardless of the repercussions.

Granted that the music industries, the people enforcing the rules, are obscenely dim-witted, but Google/Twitch is getting a lot of unwarranted flack for this issue.

[Trik'Stari]

The problem with this concept is the amount of people who deliberately ignore the rules, even with the penalties in place. When there are so many people releasing copyrighted materials at one time, the copyright holders will no longer be able to look at each and every case. The only thing that can be practically done is look at the source medium and deal with the overall problem, regardless of the repercussions.

Granted that the music industries, the people enforcing the rules, are obscenely dim-witted, but Google/Twitch is getting a lot of unwarranted flack for this issue.

Is it not the responsibility of the copyright holder to enforce the copyright? If a company like twitch says "we cannot control our user base" that makes it the responsibility of the copyright holder to go after each individual of their own volition (they could you know, just be chill and not be complete assholes about it and ruin everything they touch, like they are now) , so in what way can they force the medium to stop it? it's not their responsibility as they are not the copyright holder, and they see no profit from either enforcing it or not?

 

Not to mention that by playing music overtop of streams, is really just free advertising. Although I could understand them banning any channel that just plays music as though it were a radio station, even though that's just more free advertising.