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What is going on LTT?

So this is my first post here. Just joined a couple of minutes ago. So Hi.

 

Now to the topic:

First off I'd like to say I know nothing about computers (trying to learn) and my friend put together this parts list for me. He said that he will build it for me and teach me about everything at the same time. Basically show me how to build a PC and what each component does. Since he only got into computers a month or two ago I thought I'd run this by you guys for compatibility. I'm not confident in his abilities to make sure everything is compatible and the best for the money.

If you have any suggestions, my budget is $3000.

 

Here is the build.

 

 
Motherboard: Biostar P43D3 ATX LGA775 Motherboard  ($175.28 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Corsair 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1333 Memory  ($43.66 @ NCIX US) 
Storage: Intel SSD DC S3500 Series 800GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($775.98 @ SuperBiiz) 
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX Titan Black 6GB Video Card  ($999.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Corsair 900D ATX Full Tower Case  ($279.99 @ Micro Center) 
Power Supply: Rosewill Stallion 450W ATX Power Supply  ($34.00 @ Newegg) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 Professional (32/64-bit)  ($194.99 @ NCIX US) 
Monitor: Crossover 27Q LED-P 60Hz 27.0" Monitor  ($419.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $2983.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-07-30 23:46 EDT-0400
 
He told me that this build is very cost effective and will perform beastly. Do any of you have any last minute suggestions or corrections? 
 
Thank you so much for your help. Hopefully this is my first post of many to come!
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Diamond 5 in League :)

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Your kidding right...

                                                                                                                                                      

CPU: Intel I7-4790k | MOBO: Asus Sabertooth Z97 Mark 1 | Ram: Corsair Vengance 32GB 1600hz | GPU: EVGA GTX980 Reference

PSU: Corsair EVGA G2 850W  | SSD: Intel 730 Series 480GB, Kingston SSDNow V300 120GB | HDD: WD Black 1TB

 CPU Cooler: Corsair H105 | Case: Corsair 760T (White) | Peripherals: (2)Asus VS247H-P, Corsair M65, Corsair K70 RGB w/ Brown Switches

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I'm a little confused. Why should I fire my friend? Is it not compatible?

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What is going on LTT?

So this is my first post here. Just joined a couple of minutes ago. So Hi.

 

Now to the topic:

First off I'd like to say I know nothing about computers (trying to learn) and my friend put together this parts list for me. He said that he will build it for me and teach me about everything at the same time. Basically show me how to build a PC and what each component does. Since he only got into computers a month or two ago I thought I'd run this by you guys for compatibility. I'm not confident in his abilities to make sure everything is compatible and the best for the money.

If you have any suggestions, my budget is $3000.

 

Here is the build.

 

 
Motherboard: Biostar P43D3 ATX LGA775 Motherboard  ($175.28 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Corsair 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1333 Memory  ($43.66 @ NCIX US) 
Storage: Intel SSD DC S3500 Series 800GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($775.98 @ SuperBiiz) 
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX Titan Black 6GB Video Card  ($999.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Corsair 900D ATX Full Tower Case  ($279.99 @ Micro Center) 
Power Supply: Rosewill Stallion 450W ATX Power Supply  ($34.00 @ Newegg) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 Professional (32/64-bit)  ($194.99 @ NCIX US) 
Monitor: Crossover 27Q LED-P 60Hz 27.0" Monitor  ($419.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $2983.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-07-30 23:46 EDT-0400
 
He told me that this build is very cost effective and will perform beastly. Do any of you have any last minute suggestions or corrections? 
 
Thank you so much for your help. Hopefully this is my first post of many to come!

 

I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you don't know better.   The build is completely unbalanced, and for $3000 you can do a lot better. 

 

First up, what do you plan to do with the system specifically? That will determine what hardware you should use. 

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I am going to be using this for gaming. Hopefully games like arma 3, planetside 2, battlefield and of course goat simulator.

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I am going to be using this for gaming. Hopefully games like arma 3, planetside 2, battlefield and of course goat simulator.

If you're going to use it for Arma 3, might as well get a super computer.

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If you're going to use it for Arma 3, might as well get a super computer.

My friend told me this was basically a super computer. Now I'm starting to think it is not considering I'm being called a troll. Lol.

What he told me is that CPU and ram don't matter. That storage and GPU are the only things that matter. He them gave me this build. Could you explain to me what is wrong with it?

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I am going to be using this for gaming. Hopefully games like arma 3, planetside 2, battlefield and of course goat simulator.

Okay, in that case, you would be better off with something like this (note Fans are up to you to choose, I would suggest something from Sythe or Noctua etc.)  Also note that 16GB of memory is not necessary, but it is always better to have too much memory than too little. 

 

 
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($199.99 @ Micro Center) 
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC14PE_BK 78.1 CFM CPU Cooler  ($64.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: Asus Z97-WS ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($283.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: PNY Optima 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($84.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 290 4GB TurboDuo Video Card (2-Way CrossFire)  ($359.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 290 4GB TurboDuo Video Card (2-Way CrossFire)  ($359.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair 750D ATX Full Tower Case  ($129.99 @ NCIX US) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit)  ($128.99 @ B&H) 
Total: $1945.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-07-31 00:16 EDT-0400
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P8P67-WS/Z77 Extreme4/H61DE-S3. 4x4 Samsung 1600MHz/1x8GB Gskill 1866MHzC9. 750W OCZ ZT/750w Corsair CX. GTX480/Sapphire HD7950 1.05GHz (OC). Adata SP600 256GB x2/SSG 830 128GB/1TB Hatachi Deskstar/3TB Seagate. Windows XP/7Pro, Windows 10 on Test drive. FreeBSD and Fedora on liveboot USB3 drives. 

 

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HP-DM3. Pentium U5400. 2x4GB DDR3 1600MHz (Samsung iirc). Intel HD. 512GB SSD. 8TB USB drive (Western Digital). Coil Wine!!!!!! (Is that a spec?). 

 

 

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Here, this is a 4K rig. You will absolutely love it.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($312.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 EXTREME4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($128.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($158.12 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($129.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($102.46 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX Titan Black 6GB Video Card  ($999.99 @ B&H)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 Blackout with Window ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic X Series 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($157.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: Dell UP2414Q 60Hz 23.8" Monitor  ($789.97 @ Amazon)
Total: $2950.48
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-07-31 00:19 EDT-0400

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My friend told me this was basically a super computer. Now I'm starting to think it is not considering I'm being called a troll. Lol.

What he told me is that CPU and ram don't matter. That storage and GPU are the only things that matter. He them gave me this build. Could you explain to me what is wrong with it?

 

Your friend clearly doesn't know much about computers.. No offence. You could do way way better with $3000...

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My friend told me this was basically a super computer. Now I'm starting to think it is not considering I'm being called a troll. Lol.

What he told me is that CPU and ram don't matter. That storage and GPU are the only things that matter. He them gave me this build. Could you explain to me what is wrong with it?

While that is true to a point, it is not an all inclusive truth. The CPU and RAM do not make a large difference in most gaming, but that only goes so far. A Pentuium III is still going to botle neck you. So is a core 2. As long as you are running an i5 or higher (or AMD competitor) from LGA1155 (AM3) or newer, you can pretty much count that your CPU will handle most if not all games without a bottleneck.  RAM, as long as you have enough RAM, then it will not make a difference one way or another. If you need say 8GB of RAM, then it will not matter if it is 8GB of DDR2 667MHz or 8GB of DDR3-3100MHz. (the faster RAM is slightly better in some circumstances, but not for the price. Just stick with 1600MHz minumum and teh lowest priced kit you can find at the capacity you need). 

 

GPU though, the Titan Black is a 780Ti with some workstation features that will not help in gaming (the extra vRam could help if you are using a 4K display). For 1080p or 1440p, a 290/290x or 780/780ti would be all you need. (The suggested CFx 190 would be faster than a 780ti at only slightly more money.) 

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P8P67-WS/Z77 Extreme4/H61DE-S3. 4x4 Samsung 1600MHz/1x8GB Gskill 1866MHzC9. 750W OCZ ZT/750w Corsair CX. GTX480/Sapphire HD7950 1.05GHz (OC). Adata SP600 256GB x2/SSG 830 128GB/1TB Hatachi Deskstar/3TB Seagate. Windows XP/7Pro, Windows 10 on Test drive. FreeBSD and Fedora on liveboot USB3 drives. 

 

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Laptop <Works Beyond Spec>

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HP-DM3. Pentium U5400. 2x4GB DDR3 1600MHz (Samsung iirc). Intel HD. 512GB SSD. 8TB USB drive (Western Digital). Coil Wine!!!!!! (Is that a spec?). 

 

 

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Here, this is a 4K rig. You will absolutely love it.PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchantCPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($312.99 @ Amazon)CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($69.99 @ Newegg)Motherboard: ASRock Z97 EXTREME4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($128.99 @ Newegg)Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($158.12 @ NCIX US)Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($129.99 @ NCIX US)Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($102.46 @ Amazon)Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX Titan Black 6GB Video Card  ($999.99 @ B&H)Case: Fractal Design Define R4 Blackout with Window ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.99 @ Newegg)Power Supply: SeaSonic X Series 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($157.99 @ SuperBiiz)Monitor: Dell UP2414Q 60Hz 23.8" Monitor  ($789.97 @ Amazon)Total: $2950.48Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when availableGenerated by PCPartPicker 2014-07-31 00:19 EDT-0400

I think I'll buy that. But I may need to build but myself as I don't really trust my friend anymore. Is there an instruction page somewhere? Like a life hacker on it?

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I think I'll buy that. But I may need to build but myself as I don't really trust my friend anymore. Is there an instruction page somewhere? Like a life hacker on it?

While I am sure there are, Linus himself has done many buildguide videos. Choose one and watch it.  For example: 

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P8P67-WS/Z77 Extreme4/H61DE-S3. 4x4 Samsung 1600MHz/1x8GB Gskill 1866MHzC9. 750W OCZ ZT/750w Corsair CX. GTX480/Sapphire HD7950 1.05GHz (OC). Adata SP600 256GB x2/SSG 830 128GB/1TB Hatachi Deskstar/3TB Seagate. Windows XP/7Pro, Windows 10 on Test drive. FreeBSD and Fedora on liveboot USB3 drives. 

 

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Laptop <Works Beyond Spec>

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HP-DM3. Pentium U5400. 2x4GB DDR3 1600MHz (Samsung iirc). Intel HD. 512GB SSD. 8TB USB drive (Western Digital). Coil Wine!!!!!! (Is that a spec?). 

 

 

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I think I'll buy that. But I may need to build but myself as I don't really trust my friend anymore. Is there an instruction page somewhere? Like a life hacker on it?

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While I am sure there are, Linus himself has done many buildguide videos. Choose one and watch it.  For example: http://youtu.be/roFb3TNePIg

  

Thank you guys for all your help. Seems like you just helped me evade disaster. I'll be sure to check out those build guides!

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Here, this is a 4K rig. You will absolutely love it.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($312.99 @ Amazon)

CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($69.99 @ Newegg)

Motherboard: ASRock Z97 EXTREME4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($128.99 @ Newegg)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($158.12 @ NCIX US)

Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($129.99 @ NCIX US)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($102.46 @ Amazon)

Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX Titan Black 6GB Video Card  ($999.99 @ B&H)

Case: Fractal Design Define R4 Blackout with Window ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.99 @ Newegg)

Power Supply: SeaSonic X Series 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($157.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Monitor: Dell UP2414Q 60Hz 23.8" Monitor  ($789.97 @ Amazon)

Total: $2950.48

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

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Bad choice on the GPU. A pair of 290X's would be better and cheaper. Also no need for an i7 if it is a pure gaming pc.

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